MLB 2022 Off Season

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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 27,903
    We will see.  I think any team trading is willing to pay something crazy....agree the haul to just make the trade will be significant.   
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 24,280
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 34,484
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
    lol, Marlins don't spend money on players.

    If he did go to the Yanks, Mets are looking into him also, The Yanks could afford to keep judge and maybe dump Stanton?
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 34,484
    So Torkelson is the latest casualty prospect to be sent down to the minors.

    So far we have Kelenic, Detmers, Hoy-Jun, Royce Lewis all got sent back down.

    I do hope Tork and Kelenic get it back together.

    I would expect Adley to be sent down soon too.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 24,280
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
    lol, Marlins don't spend money on players.

    If he did go to the Yanks, Mets are looking into him also, The Yanks could afford to keep judge and maybe dump Stanton?
    Just for this year I mean.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 34,484
    igotid88 said:
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
    lol, Marlins don't spend money on players.

    If he did go to the Yanks, Mets are looking into him also, The Yanks could afford to keep judge and maybe dump Stanton?
    Just for this year I mean.
    Yeah, Nats could clean up w the prospects.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 14,373
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    It's not really for a half year though. He's under team control for 2 more full seasons after this one, so you could just pay him whatever the arbitration award for '23 and '24 were. he'd not likely be happy, but teams are in essence guaranteed 2.5 seasons of him if they trade for him.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 14,373
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
    The Yanks could afford to keep judge and maybe dump Stanton?
    Who is going to trade for Stanton's contract? 6 years left after this year at 32M, 32M, 32M, 29M, 25M & 25M. ages 33-38.
    Yanks would have to eat a ton of that cash to move him, making affording Both Soto and Judge pretty much impossible.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 32,955
    I know it is a sign of getting old, but isn't it pretty crazy how many kids of major leaguers are getting drafted and good these days?

    3 on the Blue Jays big league roster alone.  Then recent drafts include, Leiter, Matt Holliday's kid was apparently drafted first last night, Carl Crawford's kid was drafted.


  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 34,484
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
    The Yanks could afford to keep judge and maybe dump Stanton?
    Who is going to trade for Stanton's contract? 6 years left after this year at 32M, 32M, 32M, 29M, 25M & 25M. ages 33-38.
    Yanks would have to eat a ton of that cash to move him, making affording Both Soto and Judge pretty much impossible.
    Then dump Hicks, Gallo, Donaldson.  Move Torres to 2nd and bring up Volpe.

    That should clear some room?

    I would totally try and deal Stanton though even if you pay a portion of his salary the next few years.  I mean Stanton isn't bad, he is hitting HR.  Someone would want that?  
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 32,955
    edited July 18
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
    The Yanks could afford to keep judge and maybe dump Stanton?
    Who is going to trade for Stanton's contract? 6 years left after this year at 32M, 32M, 32M, 29M, 25M & 25M. ages 33-38.
    Yanks would have to eat a ton of that cash to move him, making affording Both Soto and Judge pretty much impossible.
    Then dump Hicks, Gallo, Donaldson.  Move Torres to 2nd and bring up Volpe.

    That should clear some room?

    I would totally try and deal Stanton though even if you pay a portion of his salary the next few years.  I mean Stanton isn't bad, he is hitting HR.  Someone would want that?  
    How does the luxury tax work for a 2nd trade?  I know Stanton's luxury tax hit for the Yankees is only like $25 mil since the Marlins are paying a good portion of his salary, so it's actually fairly reasonable.  Also, he has a full no trade clause, which is how he got himself to the Yankees in the first place, so he's not going anywhere.

    Have to assume any package for Soto starts with Volpe, Jasson and Gleyber

    And just to add, the Yankees COULD pay both Judge and Soto, but they won't.  Also, getting Soto and letting Judge walk is 100% the smarter move, as bad as it would hurt Yankees fans.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 34,484
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
    The Yanks could afford to keep judge and maybe dump Stanton?
    Who is going to trade for Stanton's contract? 6 years left after this year at 32M, 32M, 32M, 29M, 25M & 25M. ages 33-38.
    Yanks would have to eat a ton of that cash to move him, making affording Both Soto and Judge pretty much impossible.
    Then dump Hicks, Gallo, Donaldson.  Move Torres to 2nd and bring up Volpe.

    That should clear some room?

    I would totally try and deal Stanton though even if you pay a portion of his salary the next few years.  I mean Stanton isn't bad, he is hitting HR.  Someone would want that?  
    How does the luxury tax work for a 2nd trade?  I know Stanton's luxury tax hit for the Yankees is only like $25 mil since the Marlins are paying a good portion of his salary, so it's actually fairly reasonable.  Also, he has a full no trade clause, which is how he got himself to the Yankees in the first place, so he's not going anywhere.

    Have to assume any package for Soto starts with Volpe, Jasson and Gleyber

    And just to add, the Yankees COULD pay both Judge and Soto, but they won't.  Also, getting Soto and letting Judge walk is 100% the smarter move, as bad as it would hurt Yankees fans.
    Jasson and Gleyber I would let go.  Volpe, no.

    If the Yankees let Judge walk the organization would be hated for years.  It's like the Mets letting Seaver go.  It would sting a lot of people but hey, the Yankees will still fill the seats.

    If they did get Soto I would agree that it's a better move than holding Judge.  Soto is one if not the best hitters in the game right now and he is only 22.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 32,955
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    It'll have to be to a contending to team that has the ability to re-sign him and could handle if he signed somewhere else. Otherwise why give up a ton for a half year. If it's the Yankees that pretty much means the end for Judge after this season.  

    Would be nice if went to Mattingly's Marlins. But then when he got there he would start to suck.
    The Yanks could afford to keep judge and maybe dump Stanton?
    Who is going to trade for Stanton's contract? 6 years left after this year at 32M, 32M, 32M, 29M, 25M & 25M. ages 33-38.
    Yanks would have to eat a ton of that cash to move him, making affording Both Soto and Judge pretty much impossible.
    Then dump Hicks, Gallo, Donaldson.  Move Torres to 2nd and bring up Volpe.

    That should clear some room?

    I would totally try and deal Stanton though even if you pay a portion of his salary the next few years.  I mean Stanton isn't bad, he is hitting HR.  Someone would want that?  
    How does the luxury tax work for a 2nd trade?  I know Stanton's luxury tax hit for the Yankees is only like $25 mil since the Marlins are paying a good portion of his salary, so it's actually fairly reasonable.  Also, he has a full no trade clause, which is how he got himself to the Yankees in the first place, so he's not going anywhere.

    Have to assume any package for Soto starts with Volpe, Jasson and Gleyber

    And just to add, the Yankees COULD pay both Judge and Soto, but they won't.  Also, getting Soto and letting Judge walk is 100% the smarter move, as bad as it would hurt Yankees fans.
    Jasson and Gleyber I would let go.  Volpe, no.

    If the Yankees let Judge walk the organization would be hated for years.  It's like the Mets letting Seaver go.  It would sting a lot of people but hey, the Yankees will still fill the seats.

    If they did get Soto I would agree that it's a better move than holding Judge.  Soto is one if not the best hitters in the game right now and he is only 22.
    There's no way it gets done without Volpe and I don't see how you don't do that... I wouldn't like it, but Soto isn't just a rental either

    Start with Gleyber, Peraza and Dominguez and go from there, but that doesn't come close to getting it done.

    Pipe dream...don't see it happening, but fun to speculate.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 27,903
    Was Roseanne Barr busy?
    Jesus, that rendition was horrible. 

    Would like to see Soto demolish the field.  

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 27,710
    Was Roseanne Barr busy?
    Jesus, that rendition was horrible. 

    Would like to see Soto demolish the field.  

    he won, but didn’t demolish anyone. he shoulda let the kid making the minimum take home the $1M. every year, I wonder why I waste my time with this. thank god for DVR.

    I was really struck by how latinos are dominating the “american pastime.”
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 27,903
    Americans don't care that much about baseball.  It represents glory and a pathway to riches in countries like the DR and PR.  Pretty easy to see.
    Our biggest sport is Guns.  Next, is Being Assholes.  Third is football.  Not sure where baseball lands.

    I went to bed after first round.  I agree that it is really a DVR type event.  

    Nobody lets someone else beat them on a stage like that.  Rather beat the kid and then gift him $1MM

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 34,484
    Americans don't care that much about baseball.  It represents glory and a pathway to riches in countries like the DR and PR.  Pretty easy to see.
    Our biggest sport is Guns.  Next, is Being Assholes.  Third is football.  Not sure where baseball lands.

    I went to bed after first round.  I agree that it is really a DVR type event.  

    Nobody lets someone else beat them on a stage like that.  Rather beat the kid and then gift him $1MM

    I really thought Schwarber held back on Pujols and let him win.

    How exciting it was to see Jrod out there.  He put on a show.  Just hope Kelenic comes back to join him on the M's again.

    And your list is wrong, assholes are first then guns.  Being an ahole is a prerequisite to owning a gun, I know... :*

    Hispanic inclusion has been on the rise for years.  Black participation has been in decline for years.  It's something baseball has been trying to fix.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 34,484
    Anybody watch The Captain?  I enjoyed it.
  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,826
    Split screen again???

    Did not enough people let ESPN know that this display was absolute shit last year?
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 10,891
    edited July 19
    dankind said:
    Split screen again???

    Did not enough people let ESPN know that this display was absolute shit last year?
    Yeah, I didn't care for the Split screen. And, they did it for the whole competition. 
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 24,280
    Shouldn't Alcantara get the start?
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 27,903
    In LA?
    No way.  Kershaw 100.
    (The other Dodger, Gosselin, would be an acceptable option.)  Florida's kid is badass but I don't think you can look past the home crowd.

    I miss the players wearing their own unis.  The different colors and types were something very cool.


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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 27,710
    the gold shoes, gold belt and lack of hustle pretty much sums up why I can’t stand manny fucking machado.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 27,710
    igotid88 said:
    Shouldn't Alcantara get the start?
    his inning was very impressive. where’s he going when he leaves miami?
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 27,710
    WTF? I didn’t know they were actually gonna let poo-holes INTO the game. manfred is about as lame as bud.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 27,710
    and, oh fuck, now here’s big sloppi.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 27,710
    and, oh fuck, now marlins man has paid his way into the front row.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 16,175
    This is the worst broadcast of all time. Joe Davis blows. Enough with the mic’d up players. You can’t hear them talk and the announcers don’t say a damn thing. This is god awful. Somehow Fox managed to get WORSE without Joe Buck. 
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 34,484
    This is the worst broadcast of all time. Joe Davis blows. Enough with the mic’d up players. You can’t hear them talk and the announcers don’t say a damn thing. This is god awful. Somehow Fox managed to get WORSE without Joe Buck. 
    I loved the mic'd up players so I don't know what the problem is Boomer.  That sequence between Nestor and Trevino was really cool.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 27,710
    there’s a lot of talent on display but not much “star power” by the 5th inning. this thing is getting as bad as the other ASGs.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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