My medical marijuana card is now invalid, here's why....

bigbadbill
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edited April 2010 in All Encompassing Trip
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  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518
    Not sure if I follow. So you lost your card because you chose to buy it from someone not licsensed to issue it?
    #FHP
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I read the big article in the Rolling Stone the other day, its a good read, very interesting coming from the growers point of view. I know we have to go through some long process over years time
    but really lets just legalize it, let a couple big corporations take it over, tax the crap out of it to help save our economy and the states that are otherwise going to need a bail out
    and I'll go smoke one at my local cafe....
    Caps Pearl Jam Cafe and Pizzaria I want to open
    now thats a pipe dream
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    my dad, who was a very conservative man by most definitions, always believed in legalizing marijuana. mostly for the reasons pandora states. hey, it works for the netherlands.... :mrgreen:
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    pandora wrote:
    I read the big article in the Rolling Stone the other day, its a good read, very interesting coming from the growers point of view. I know we have to go through some long process over years time
    but really lets just legalize it, let a couple big corporations take it over, tax the crap out of it to help save our economy and the states that are otherwise going to need a bail out
    and I'll go smoke one at my local cafe....
    Caps Pearl Jam Cafe and Pizzaria I want to open
    now thats a pipe dream

    I shake my head anytime someone mentions that it would all be OK if we taxed it. The only way that makes sense is if the government would lower taxes in some other area. Then I would be for it.

    I'm not interested in giving the government more money and power.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    soon enough marijuana will be legal.
    the government is losing its death grip on this bullshit law on weed being illegal.
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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    decides2dream wrote:
    my dad, who was a very conservative man by most definitions, always believed in legalizing marijuana. mostly for the reasons pandora states. hey, it works for the netherlands.... :mrgreen:

    Actually, the country that actually decriminalized drug usage (the Dutch only choose not to enforce laws) is Portugal.
    And by most accounts, the program has been a runaway success.

    We're set to vote on decriminalizing marijuana in California in November..... YES WE CAN! *puff* :lol:
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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    edited March 2010
    know1 wrote:
    I'm not interested in giving the government more money and power.
    :roll:
    At least the government does a lot of good. So you mean you'd rather give brutal criminal gangs like the Mexican drug cartel more money and power?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    buy weed = feed starving people
    buy weed = house homeless
    buy weed = create jobs

    idiots in D.C. = dumb assholes
    oh and don't forget insurance & pharmaceutical companies = biggest scam artists in the world

    wait,,, i gotta vote for george w bush & nutsack dick cheney..
    if you voted for these two you should be reprimanded
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Starfall wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I'm not interested in giving the government more money and power.
    :roll:
    At least the government does a lot of good. So you mean you'd rather give brutal criminal gangs like the Mexican drug cartel more money and power?

    Obviously that's not my point and I don't want to give them more money.

    What I'm trying to avoid is the government taking even more money and power from us by higher/more taxes. If they are going to realize a new commodity to tax, they need to lower taxes elsewhere.

    And count me on the side that doesn't think the government really does all that much good.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    Starfall wrote:
    :roll:
    At least the government does a lot of good. So you mean you'd rather give brutal criminal gangs like the Mexican drug cartel more money and power?

    like Saddam or Binlanden? yeah, the government does a great job of keeping money out of bad people's hands. :roll:
    81 is now off the air

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  • 81
    81 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    if it takes a little taxing to oil the legalization of pot, i'm ok with that. make it age 21 to buy. fine. just legalize it already so i can open 81's cafe
    81 is now off the air

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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    know1 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I read the big article in the Rolling Stone the other day, its a good read, very interesting coming from the growers point of view. I know we have to go through some long process over years time
    but really lets just legalize it, let a couple big corporations take it over, tax the crap out of it to help save our economy and the states that are otherwise going to need a bail out
    and I'll go smoke one at my local cafe....
    Caps Pearl Jam Cafe and Pizzaria I want to open
    now thats a pipe dream

    I shake my head anytime someone mentions that it would all be OK if we taxed it. The only way that makes sense is if the government would lower taxes in some other area. Then I would be for it.

    I'm not interested in giving the government more money and power.


    Without the extra money coming in, they're instead selling our next generation into debt. If this significantly helps reduce that, then I'm for it.
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    know1 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I read the big article in the Rolling Stone the other day, its a good read, very interesting coming from the growers point of view. I know we have to go through some long process over years time
    but really lets just legalize it, let a couple big corporations take it over, tax the crap out of it to help save our economy and the states that are otherwise going to need a bail out
    and I'll go smoke one at my local cafe....
    Caps Pearl Jam Cafe and Pizzaria I want to open
    now thats a pipe dream

    I shake my head anytime someone mentions that it would all be OK if we taxed it. The only way that makes sense is if the government would lower taxes in some other area. Then I would be for it.

    I'm not interested in giving the government more money and power.

    Legalizing the weed would produce both excise tax (same as cigarettes and booze) and income tax (legit business owners pay taxes). I much prefer this over no tax revenue from illegal sellers. Call me a sceptic, but I don't think too many illegal sellers report their earnings.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    81 wrote:
    if it takes a little taxing to oil the legalization of pot, i'm ok with that. make it age 21 to buy. fine. just legalize it already so i can open 81's cafe
    ah a little competition for "Caps" huh? all good 8-)
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Remove all legislation...it's a plant. Let everyone grow their own.
  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    know1 wrote:
    Starfall wrote:
    know1 wrote:
    I'm not interested in giving the government more money and power.
    :roll:
    At least the government does a lot of good. So you mean you'd rather give brutal criminal gangs like the Mexican drug cartel more money and power?

    Obviously that's not my point and I don't want to give them more money.

    What I'm trying to avoid is the government taking even more money and power from us by higher/more taxes. If they are going to realize a new commodity to tax, they need to lower taxes elsewhere.

    And count me on the side that doesn't think the government really does all that much good.

    Well there's the issue - would you rather the government get revenues from a lucrative cash crop, or would you prefer the drug lords get the money? Whether or not taxes should be lowered elsewhere isn't really the point, and should be addressed in a different discussion.

    And if you don't think that the government really does all that much good, well, here's a refresher course. You can thank us liberals later. ;)
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  • Starfall
    Starfall Posts: 548
    81 wrote:
    Starfall wrote:
    :roll:
    At least the government does a lot of good. So you mean you'd rather give brutal criminal gangs like the Mexican drug cartel more money and power?

    like Saddam or Binlanden? yeah, the government does a great job of keeping money out of bad people's hands. :roll:

    Yeah like all those bad people getting Medicare and Social Security. :roll:

    Seems to be a lot of Straw Man arguments here lately.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Starfall wrote:

    Well there's the issue - would you rather the government get revenues from a lucrative cash crop, or would you prefer the drug lords get the money? Whether or not taxes should be lowered elsewhere isn't really the point, and should be addressed in a different discussion.

    And if you don't think that the government really does all that much good, well, here's a refresher course. You can thank us liberals later. ;)
    Why does doing the right thing have to be conditional? Everyone agrees that criminalizing weed is ridiculous....so why do so many people ad the caveat 'if it's taxed'? Why not completely destroy the market by making it legal for anyone to grow?
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  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Starfall wrote:

    Well there's the issue - would you rather the government get revenues from a lucrative cash crop, or would you prefer the drug lords get the money? Whether or not taxes should be lowered elsewhere isn't really the point, and should be addressed in a different discussion.

    And if you don't think that the government really does all that much good, well, here's a refresher course. You can thank us liberals later. ;)
    Why does doing the right thing have to be conditional? Everyone agrees that criminalizing weed is ridiculous....so why do so many people ad the caveat 'if it's taxed'? Why not completely destroy the market by making it legal for anyone to grow?
    A tiny closet can grow enough for your family and close friends, for a miniscule cost.

    ...I like it being free too! :)
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Remove all legislation...it's a plant. Let everyone grow their own.
    one could wish for that but that will never happen. It will be illegal to grow our own and it will be taxed that is the way our government works and our government needs the money now so it will be legalized for that reason hopefully soon.
    Like prohibition, they legalized booze so it could be taxed cause the government needed the income and large corporations stepped in to make the product.
    whatever I just want it legal in my lifetime and clocks ticking for me

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