Evidently my ideas aren't so crazy reguarding promotion

musicismylife78

hey I am just like that guy as well. I am waiting too, friend, You gonna post?

The Champ

musicismylife78 wrote:

I didnt talk about how the band promoted any of those albums. They thread was about Backspacer. Are you really that idiotic as to try and act all selective? Why not post the title of my thread when you were quoting from that same thread? Was it that much trouble to do that?

I am being selective because I am only talking about my reply in your original thread. You publicly claimed that I said things that I did not. It's not nice to name call..grow up ..

musicismylife78

The Champ wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

I didnt talk about how the band promoted any of those albums. They thread was about Backspacer. Are you really that idiotic as to try and act all selective? Why not post the title of my thread when you were quoting from that same thread? Was it that much trouble to do that?

I am being selective because I am only talking about my reply in your original thread. You publicly claimed that I said things that I did not. It's not nice to name call..grow up ..

You claimed things about me as well that werent true. You suggested that, I was talking about other albums, as in I was berating the band for not promoting vs via the net or riot act via the net. Anyone with half a brain, looking at my thread entitled "The band promoted Backspacer wrong, made little sense ", would know I said none of that. The thread was about backspacer

The Champ

musicismylife78 wrote:

Where are your credentials? I will post my credentials if you do the same. If you havent worked for or with a band or label, you cant legitimately talk about business and music promotion. Those are your standards and I expect you to abide by them. So are you willing to talk about your extensive expertise in the industry?

Huh? Answer the fucking man I quoted!!! Not me ..what's wrong with you, seriously?

Given to...

Given to... wrote:

Whaddya say everyone have a nice cup of shut the fuck up and enjoy the music.

So have we moved on?

I aint about to read 3 more pages of crap.

Could I get a short recap? Nevermind.

musicismylife78

so your not gonna post credentials? Why should I respond to you or that guy about my own credentials, if you refuse to follow your own guidelines and standards. its one thing for everyone to openly talk about how since they worked with sub pop for 5 years or worked as a roadie for modest mouse for 10 years that then they can speak truthfully about the industry, its another to berate someone, for their supposed lack of expertise, call them out on it, and then refuse to admit your own expertise or lack thereof.

Are you gonna post?

The Champ

musicismylife78 wrote:

The Champ wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

I didnt talk about how the band promoted any of those albums. They thread was about Backspacer. Are you really that idiotic as to try and act all selective? Why not post the title of my thread when you were quoting from that same thread? Was it that much trouble to do that?

I am being selective because I am only talking about my reply in your original thread. You publicly claimed that I said things that I did not. It's not nice to name call..grow up ..

You claimed things about me as well that werent true. You suggested that, I was talking about other albums, as in I was berating the band for not promoting vs via the net or riot act via the net. Anyone with half a brain, looking at my thread entitled "The band promoted Backspacer wrong, made little sense ", would know I said none of that. The thread was about backspacer

No, you mentioned Avocado as well. And clearly if they used 'Come Back' they are fully aware that this viable option is also available for Backspacer as well. Wouldn't you agree? What's that you said about having half a brain..lol....this should be stickied..

IamBETEL

Cool story bro.

Haters gonna hate.

musicismylife78

are you blind and illiterate? Why are you refusing to post credentials of what i assume are very tenured positions at a major label or working with major bands?

Can you not read? Whats your flippin deal?

Gems and Rhinestones

The Champ wrote:

Huh? Answer the fucking man I quoted!!! Not me ..what's wrong with you, seriously?

hey champ.........why did you punch the photographer?

JOEJOEJOE

musicismylife78 wrote:

are you blind and illiterate? Why are you refusing to post credentials of what i assume are very tenured positions at a major label or working with major bands?

Can you not read? Whats your flippin deal?

What makes a blind person illiterate...the lack of Braille-reading ability?

musicismylife78

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You claimed things about me as well that werent true. You suggested that, I was talking about other albums, as in I was berating the band for not promoting vs via the net or riot act via the net. Anyone with half a brain, looking at my thread entitled "The band promoted Backspacer wrong, made little sense ", would know I said none of that. The thread was about backspacer[/quote]

No, you mentioned Avocado as well. And clearly if they used 'Come Back' they are fully aware that this viable option is also available for Backspacer as well. Wouldn't you agree? What's that you said about having half a brain..lol....this should be stickied..[/quote]


No i didnt. The post was The band promoted Backspacer wrong, made little sense. Is that readable to you? Are you able to process that title, those few words. The title of Backspacer should stick out. Can you even read?

musicismylife78

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

are you blind and illiterate? Why are you refusing to post credentials of what i assume are very tenured positions at a major label or working with major bands?

Can you not read? Whats your flippin deal?

What makes a blind person illiterate...the lack of Braille-reading ability?

ask the champ sure he would fill you in

Gems and Rhinestones

musicismylife78 wrote:

Now I am not deluded enough to think the band decided to do this because they read my thread on this board, but I do feel satisfaction and redemption after reading that the band is now promoting the album via tv shows.
I created a thread about a week ago, where I suggested the band promoted Backspacer in ways that worked in 1991, but were useless and stupid in 2009. Some posters came to my defense and agreed with me, but quite a few suggested, that I had no buisness telling PJ what to do, and that I am not a commercial or buisness consultant so I should shut my mouth. People talked about how PJ would never promote their music via tv shows.

We obviously someone was right, and it aint those people who were calling me out!

The fundamentals of the situation are: we live in a world where no one buys records. Illegal downloading happens and it cant be stopped. We live in a world where MTV and VH1 no longer show videos, and a world where Rolling Stone, and Spin, no longer are ways in which the majority of folks find out about new bands and music news. We live in a world where radio is no longer a reliable way to promote music.
So what do you do?

Well you tap into the means in which people DO hear and find out about new music. And thats the new media, Pitchfork, Stereogum, YouTube viral videos and of course, tv shows which often times feature new and breaking bands, unheard bands during the most emotional and pivitol scenes. Flash Forward a few weeks back featured the Nick Drake gem Place to Be.

Lets hope that Flash Forward features a great song, and that new fans find out about the band via this promotional ad.

To promote an album in this day and age: you promote via tv and soundtracks and all that.

I really dont hate to say it, but I TOLD YOU SO!

just like i said last time......my dog shitbrick could think of a better model.

Get_Right

musicismylife78 wrote:

Could be, but my point is that I posted a thread about the band doing more stuff like this, and was blasted to hell for it, similar to this current thread. People literally said "no way in hell would the band do that". Thats what I am having trouble figuring out. Songs have appeared on Friends, Cold Case, Scrubs, FNL and so on, yet people forgot that in the discussion a week ago, when I said the band should be doing more of that. Why didnt people say "they have been doing that for years".

people did say that they have been on TV for years
and others have mentioned the cold case episode and tunes playing on espn, the nba, and mlb

"My buisness plan for backspacer would have been: liscencing some of the tunes for use in tv shows like Greys Anatomy or The Hills."
"so, why not lend the use of the songs for commercials?" (comparing Pearl jam to the shins)

your suggested approach is very different from having a snippet of a song played during the opening montage

thats why you are getting flack

The Champ

musicismylife78 wrote:

so your not gonna post credentials? Why should I respond to you or that guy about my own credentials, if you refuse to follow your own guidelines and standards. its one thing for everyone to openly talk about how since they worked with sub pop for 5 years or worked as a roadie for modest mouse for 10 years that then they can speak truthfully about the industry, its another to berate someone, for their supposed lack of expertise, call them out on it, and then refuse to admit your own expertise or lack thereof.

Are you gonna post?

I am in no shape or form an expert in this matter, and have never claimed to be. There, I posted it again. Happy? However, I do believe the band is associated with experts in this field..lol...get it yet?

musicismylife78

where is the mention of avocado? I was just quoted talking about backspacer. You reading that champ? The post was about backspacer. HELLO!!!!

The Champ

musicismylife78 wrote:

are you blind and illiterate? Why are you refusing to post credentials of what i assume are very tenured positions at a major label or working with major bands?

Can you not read? Whats your flippin deal?

Huh? lol..

The Champ

Gems and Rhinestones wrote:

The Champ wrote:

Huh? Answer the fucking man I quoted!!! Not me ..what's wrong with you, seriously?

hey champ.........why did you punch the photographer?

I thought he was that annoying singer from Oasis ..

musicismylife78

My business plan for Backspacer. Funny that really looks nothing like My business plan for Riot Act or Yield. Care to enlighten me Champ about what those albums have to do with a statement like My business plan for Backspacer.

You think I am typing in code form or something. I assure you, when I say my business plan for Backspacer, thats what I mean.

And funny enough, PJ's business plan and mine, line up. Not claiming any sway in the decision, but just sayin...