Obama's choice of words

inmytree

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

inmytree wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

I am not the president talking on national television. There is a big difference.

Obama is damned if the does and damned if he doesn't...really, I don't see the big deal...so he didn't blindly buy into the cops story...so what...? he commented...so what...?

it's amusing how this has turned into a big deal...

And if this was a white president that comented for the police he would be a biggot too?

huh...? perhaps I should clarify...unlike you, I'm taking race out of the equation...let me repeat my point...again...

the police investigated a 911 call...the found the owner of the home to actually be the person who entered the home...case solved...the end...

however, the homeowner happened to be super pissed off...and happened to say some not so flattering things (according to the police)...suddenly the homeowner is in handcuffs and arrested ....which, to me, is bullshit...

Dirtie_Frank

How could you take race out of the equation when that is why Gates became beligerant? He accuesed the cop of being a racict. When he obviously was folloing up on a 911 call.

brandon10

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

How could you take race out of the equation when that is why Gates became beligerant? He accuesed the cop of being a racict. When he obviously was folloing up on a 911 call.

He's taking race out of the equation becase you shouldn't be arrested for that no matter what color you are.

inmytree

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

How could you take race out of the equation when that is why Gates became beligerant? He accuesed the cop of being a racict. When he obviously was folloing up on a 911 call.

so he accused a cop of being racist....? is that now a arrestable offense...?

get over the race thing, please...Gates could have told the cop that his breath stunk and his shoes looked funny, would that have made you feel better...?

answer me this, if he said the cop had nasty coffee breath and that his shoes were stupid, should he have been arrested?

g under p

inmytree wrote:

huh...? perhaps I should clarify...unlike you, I'm taking race out of the equation...let me repeat my point...again...

the police investigated a 911 call...the found the owner of the home to actually be the person who entered the home...case solved...the end...

however, the homeowner happened to be super pissed off...and happened to say some not so flattering things (according to the police)...suddenly the homeowner is in handcuffs and arrested ....which, to me, is bullshit...

In this case a step back by both parties would have been for the better and like I said if Gates put his hands on the officer like in baseball with umpires throw him out of the game or in Gates case arrest him for assault. However I don't think there was a need to arrest him based on being belligerent to an officer on breaking into your own home after reluctantly showing his ID. I know I tried to do the same two weeks ago.

Peace

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

inmytree wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

I am not the president talking on national television. There is a big difference.

Obama is damned if the does and damned if he doesn't...really, I don't see the big deal...so he didn't blindly buy into the cops story...so what...? he commented...so what...?

it's amusing how this has turned into a big deal...

its not a huge deal, he didnt accidentally declare war on a country who was no threat to us, but still, that cop didnt deserve the drubbing he got and from the press and idiot politicians. you dont think that can be harmful?

and he's the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, not some idiot poster on a message board. he has to be smarter than that.

inmytree wrote:

20 bucks says if he would have not said anything, some would say...how can the POTUS ignore this, he should say more...

honestly, I think some folks get upset when he takes a piss...

this is a pretty ridiculous assumption to make

inmytree

MrSmith wrote:

inmytree wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

I am not the president talking on national television. There is a big difference.

Obama is damned if the does and damned if he doesn't...really, I don't see the big deal...so he didn't blindly buy into the cops story...so what...? he commented...so what...?

it's amusing how this has turned into a big deal...

its not a huge deal, he didnt accidentally declare war on a country who was no threat to us, but still, that cop didnt deserve the drubbing he got and from the press and idiot politicians. you dont think that can be harmful?

and he's the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, not some idiot poster on a message board. he has to be smarter than that.

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inmytree

MrSmith wrote:

inmytree wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

I am not the president talking on national television. There is a big difference.

Obama is damned if the does and damned if he doesn't...really, I don't see the big deal...so he didn't blindly buy into the cops story...so what...? he commented...so what...?

it's amusing how this has turned into a big deal...

its not a huge deal, he didnt accidentally declare war on a country who was no threat to us, but still, that cop didnt deserve the drubbing he got and from the press and idiot politicians. you dont think that can be harmful?

and he's the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, not some idiot poster on a message board. he has to be smarter than that.

inmytree wrote:

20 bucks says if he would have not said anything, some would say...how can the POTUS ignore this, he should say more...

honestly, I think some folks get upset when he takes a piss...

this is a pretty ridiculous assumption to make, but even if true, being damned if you do damned if you dont is part of the job. just make the right damn choice.

um...it's not a huge deal but he better damn well make the "right" choice...?

I guess I was right, some will get pissed off about anything...even things that they claim aren't a huge deal...

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

inmytree wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

inmytree wrote:

Obama is damned if the does and damned if he doesn't...really, I don't see the big deal...so he didn't blindly buy into the cops story...so what...? he commented...so what...?

it's amusing how this has turned into a big deal...

its not a huge deal, he didnt accidentally declare war on a country who was no threat to us, but still, that cop didnt deserve the drubbing he got and from the press and idiot politicians. you dont think that can be harmful?

and he's the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, not some idiot poster on a message board. he has to be smarter than that.

inmytree wrote:

20 bucks says if he would have not said anything, some would say...how can the POTUS ignore this, he should say more...

honestly, I think some folks get upset when he takes a piss...

this is a pretty ridiculous assumption to make, but even if true, being damned if you do damned if you dont is part of the job. just make the right damn choice.

um...it's not a huge deal but he better damn well make the "right" choice...?

I guess I was right, some will get pissed off about anything...even things that they claim aren't a huge deal...

you seem like the most pissed off person here...

its a political message board. people come here to talk about politics. there are other issues besides fucking health care. not all issues are major. i commented on this one. he should have shut the fuck up on something he didnt know the specifics of. that is the "right" choice and you know it.

gimmesometruth27

all of this is a distraction to take everyone's attention away from the really important issues that are not being addressed. there are 2 wars, 47 million people without health care, trillion dollar budget deficit, just to name a few things, and this has been brought to the forefront. this is the top news of the last 2 days?....these politicians are buying into this and commenting on it so that WE forget the important issues so congress can get the hell out of DC for their august recess without making any decisions on anything of substance. it is nothing more than stalling. every day that something like this ties up the news cycle is a day that no pressure is put on anyone in congress and nothing gets close to getting done.

g under p

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

all of this is a distraction to take everyone's attention away from the really important issues that are not being addressed. there are 2 wars, 47 million people without health care, trillion dollar budget deficit, just to name a few things, and this has been brought to the forefront. this is the top news of the last 2 days?....these politicians are buying into this and commenting on it so that WE forget the important issues so congress can get the hell out of DC for their august recess without making any decisions on anything of substance. it is nothing more than stalling. every day that something like this ties up the news cycle is a day that no pressure is put on anyone in congress and nothing gets close to getting done.

In one of those wars Afghanistan we've had the highest troops death toll since 2001. So yes far bigger issues to deal with than the President's Choice of words on this matter.

Peace

inmytree

MrSmith wrote:

you seem like the most pissed off person here...

its a political message board. people come here to talk about politics. there are other issues besides fucking health care. not all issues are major. i commented on this one. he should have shut the fuck up on something he didnt know the specifics of. that is the "right" choice and you know it.

let's see...who in this thread said he should have shut the fuck up ...? because wasn't me...

and who said: its not a huge deal and then followed with just make the right damn choice....?

and you say I'm pissed off...

and no, I don't know it...I made my stance pretty clear...don't get upset because I don't agree with your fractured line of reasoning...hey, if you want to place 100% blame on a fella who simply returned from a trip abroad, showed his ID, proved he lived in his home, and was arrested because he raised his voice...I do find it telling that you support arresting people for yelling...

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

sorry, i didnt know making the right decision was wholly dependent on how important the decision was. i'll be sure and act randomly for minor decisions in the future, and save the common sense for the really important ones. happy?

TriumphantAngel

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

all of this is a distraction to take everyone's attention away from the really important issues that are not being addressed. there are 2 wars, 47 million people without health care, trillion dollar budget deficit, just to name a few things, and this has been brought to the forefront. this is the top news of the last 2 days?....these politicians are buying into this and commenting on it so that WE forget the important issues so congress can get the hell out of DC for their august recess without making any decisions on anything of substance. it is nothing more than stalling. every day that something like this ties up the news cycle is a day that no pressure is put on anyone in congress and nothing gets close to getting done.

I agree entirely with your post.

Obama's already been drilled more for this in the media than Bush was for making jokes about his justification for invading Iraq being complete bullshit. For those with short memories, ''Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be here somewhere. " Lovely :roll:

That being said, the media reaction of course, has been predictable, as predictable as how easy people have allowed their focus to be turned away from the real issue. That is Healthcare Reform.

thefin190

TriumphantAngel wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

all of this is a distraction to take everyone's attention away from the really important issues that are not being addressed. there are 2 wars, 47 million people without health care, trillion dollar budget deficit, just to name a few things, and this has been brought to the forefront. this is the top news of the last 2 days?....these politicians are buying into this and commenting on it so that WE forget the important issues so congress can get the hell out of DC for their august recess without making any decisions on anything of substance. it is nothing more than stalling. every day that something like this ties up the news cycle is a day that no pressure is put on anyone in congress and nothing gets close to getting done.

I agree entirely with your post.

Obama's already been drilled more for this in the media than Bush was for making jokes about his justification for invading Iraq being complete bullshit. For those with short memories, ''Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be here somewhere. " Lovely :roll:

That being said, the media reaction of course, has been predictable, as predictable as how easy people have allowed their focus to be turned away from the real issue. That is Healthcare Reform.

Or as it is and should be branded now, "Health Insurance Reform". Like the wingnuts have said, our health care is great, but it is only great if you can afford it, which is probably the top 1-10% who can. Its more the coverage and insurance that needs to be reformed, than the actual care, even though our care can be improved as well.