PJ Please think about this...
http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-p ... 09398.html
At a time when most artists are raising the cost of concert tickets in order to combat the continuing lack of royalties from diminished album sales, Michigan-born rocker Kid Rock is sympathizing with his financially strapped fans and putting together a bill that will cost just $20 a ticket, anywhere in the venue.
On top of that, Rock and tour partner/concert promoter Live Nation is reducing service fees to $5 a ticket and making a concerted effort to lower the prices on goods available inside the venues, including beers ($4), concession deals, T-shirts ($20), and discount parking.
And Rock’s not going it alone. He’s bringing along a strong lineup of musically diverse support bands. ZZ Top will join in for 16 of the shows, Kool & The Gang will play 10, and Uncle Kracker will be on board for every gig. The tour is scheduled to launch June 20 in Bristow, Virginia, and run through September 15 in Tampa, Florida. There will be three concerts at Detroit, Michigan’s DTE Energy Music Theatre.
“Artists demand so much money, and you have to set ticket prices at [a certain level],” Rock told Billboard. “Everyone's fighting the system, and it's really been all of our faults. We're all fortunate to make as much money as we do, and I can surely take a pay cut and help out in these hard times.”
The first 20 rows of tickets will be paperless wherever possible, and each night, the first two rows of seats won’t be sold until right before the event. Some view Rock’s summer tour as act of charity; others see it more as a way to remain competitive in a crowded tour market.
“Realistically, Kid Rock couldn’t have expected to sell 20,000 tickets on his own at a normal ticket price,” says Pollstar editor Gary BonGiovanni. “This is clearly an effort to try to fill the places up. Everybody realizes the value of a $20 ticket in today’s market. If you’re talking about $25 out the door to go see Kid Rock, that’s a heck of a deal.”
BonGiovanni added that both Rock and Live Nation stand to make back on beer whatever they may lose on ticket sales. “ZZ Top are a fairly expensive act in their own right,” he said. “I imagine they’re gonna need to back up the beer trucks to the amphitheaters since the beers are $4.”
I'd pay $20 to see ZZ Top, and have a few $4 beers.
At a time when most artists are raising the cost of concert tickets in order to combat the continuing lack of royalties from diminished album sales, Michigan-born rocker Kid Rock is sympathizing with his financially strapped fans and putting together a bill that will cost just $20 a ticket, anywhere in the venue.
On top of that, Rock and tour partner/concert promoter Live Nation is reducing service fees to $5 a ticket and making a concerted effort to lower the prices on goods available inside the venues, including beers ($4), concession deals, T-shirts ($20), and discount parking.
And Rock’s not going it alone. He’s bringing along a strong lineup of musically diverse support bands. ZZ Top will join in for 16 of the shows, Kool & The Gang will play 10, and Uncle Kracker will be on board for every gig. The tour is scheduled to launch June 20 in Bristow, Virginia, and run through September 15 in Tampa, Florida. There will be three concerts at Detroit, Michigan’s DTE Energy Music Theatre.
“Artists demand so much money, and you have to set ticket prices at [a certain level],” Rock told Billboard. “Everyone's fighting the system, and it's really been all of our faults. We're all fortunate to make as much money as we do, and I can surely take a pay cut and help out in these hard times.”
The first 20 rows of tickets will be paperless wherever possible, and each night, the first two rows of seats won’t be sold until right before the event. Some view Rock’s summer tour as act of charity; others see it more as a way to remain competitive in a crowded tour market.
“Realistically, Kid Rock couldn’t have expected to sell 20,000 tickets on his own at a normal ticket price,” says Pollstar editor Gary BonGiovanni. “This is clearly an effort to try to fill the places up. Everybody realizes the value of a $20 ticket in today’s market. If you’re talking about $25 out the door to go see Kid Rock, that’s a heck of a deal.”
BonGiovanni added that both Rock and Live Nation stand to make back on beer whatever they may lose on ticket sales. “ZZ Top are a fairly expensive act in their own right,” he said. “I imagine they’re gonna need to back up the beer trucks to the amphitheaters since the beers are $4.”
I'd pay $20 to see ZZ Top, and have a few $4 beers.
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also nice to see that he can schedule more than two shows at a time.
they are no foreigner., but what can you do
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so many truths spoken right there.
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not to forget the most important thing mentioned in the article: $4 beers. I've had just about enough of every venue charging me the cost of a 12 pack for 1 coors light. :fp:
And every concert would be a bigger shit show. Win win. :P
ok, then no $4 beers in Boston... :P
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And I agree ... this is really worth looking into. Granted, he admits he could lose money, and some folks claim it's just a way to ensure a sold-out venue (which PJ never has to worry about). Still, it seems like a win-win for his fans.
Maybe it'll be hugely successful and catch on? We can hope.
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As for your claim that it's "just a way to ensure a sold-out venue (which PJ never has to worry about)," that's pretty far from the truth. The last 4-5 times I've seen PJ they didn't sell out the venue. They didn't sell out PJ20, they didn't sell out Indy in May 2010, they didn't sell out both Chicago shows in August 2009, heck, at the Palace of Auburn Hills (near Detroit) they actually tarped off a section of the upper deck back in 2006.
I hope others will follow, although I sadly don't see Pearl Jam going in this direction.
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I haven't done a scientific study or anything, but I guess my point was that -- as a whole -- PJ typically plays larger venues than Kid Rock, and PJ typically doesn't have an issue selling out or mostly selling out the entire venue. Falling a bit short of selling out a large venue doesn't look as bad as falling short of selling out a smaller venue.
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Fair enough, but Kid Rock consistently does sell out or come close to selling out roughly the same-size venues as PJ plays. I know it's skewed because I'm in Michigan where Kid Rock is from, but he quickly sells out arena/amphitheaters and even football stadiums here. Love him or hate him, the guy does tour consistently at least.
All that aside, I think we agree it'd be great for PJ to try something like this! I like the trends I'm seeing in the concert industry, with bands like Kid Rock trying this, Muse doing paperless tickets this tour for the all the best seats to cut scalping, bands like NIN doing all paperless tickets in the past, etc.
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you get fan club tickets
you get a up close paperless option which is KEY
you get a special code to use on ticketmaster to get your tickets
and his tickets are super cheap for this tour
and you get to see zz top
saw him for the first time 2 years ago
saw him in a small club 1 year ago as part of the give back to communities that are hurting tour
those clubs tickets were will call only. show id get escorted in.
great live show
the kid gets it
he's uber rich
and he still gives and gives and gives
people are gonna hate, if they hate
I'm pretty sure the Chicago 2009 shows were sold out and this articles seems to agree: http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2822/1
I've been to a few shows were they didn't sell tickets behind them.
I kid, I kid.
Well, I went to the first show without getting tickets ahead of time. In the days/weeks leading up to it, there were seats available in the 300 level. We hold off and go to Chicago, and the day of the show I buy tickets in the 100 level. I'm sure those 100 level seats were just released, and maybe the 300 level tickets that had been available for weeks did "sell out" that day. But I was there, and in the back 300 sections, there were empty seats/rows.
John Mayer did it his last tour, and this year if you're in the first 15 rows, you can't pick up tix until the day of show. Pretty effective at beating the scalpers, although I'm sure there are some who figure it out.
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Very good point.
I guess my larger, original point was the days of PJ selling out every venue it plays are behind them. Yes, Wrigley is an exception. But almost all of the spring 2010 tour shows in the Midwest had ample seats available. Heck, if I remember, a couple didn't even sell out all the Ten Club tix.
And I'd love it if they toured more, driving down demand at certain venues (due to only a handful of shows at a time) and giving more people a chance to see them, even if the shows don't technically "sell out." I mean, what does it really matter if only 18,000 people see them at the United Center instead of 21,000? Yes, a little less money for the band, promoters and venue, but that's still an awesome turnout!
it amazes me that PJ are so behind the times on this paperless ticket thing
bruce and u2 also did it and countless other performers
The dude ditched Nova Scotia, 2 times!
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