I like the 2003 3x5 cards, money orders...
Veddernarian
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I guess there was a bit of a worry about if 10c got my 3x5 card, and a hassle getting the money order, etc. I thought 2003 went well. 10c did a really great job accommodating everybody. Even MSG which was almost full of 10c. I'd rather have that method. People shouldn't knock 10c for trying to make things better. Sometimes things don't work as planned. Good intention is definitely there.
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Works flawlessly and maintains both seniority and lottery..
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Respectfully disagree but I appreciate your thought. Nobody got shut out that tour although 10c said that could have been a possibility. A side benefit is that a credit card requirement was out of the picture. I often see complaints from people in this forum stating that they don't have a credit card and therefore can't buy tickets. Money orders solve that problem. On 10c's side, I'm sure dealing with the mail and everything is a hassle. But maybe, in the spirit of Vinyl, sometimes old ways may be better.
agree. Most of us are too old to sit in front of a computer for hours on end. The Warehouse has shit under control
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they get less tickets now, so it does make it more difficult.
I know I might get shot for saying this but maybe 1 show per tour may kill 2 birds with one stone... 1) Ease of getting tickets. This is sort of a home city advantage and snuffs the competition. 2) Better seats. Again, if the low#, frequent travelers come to gobble the seats in every venue, the higher #'s get pushed back. If everybody has to pick one show, there is a good shot for good seats even in a larger market. In 2009, LA Gibson, PJ played 4 nights. The rule was that I could pick 1 show for 10c seats. The venue is small and not only was the ticket purchase a breeze, my seats were surprisingly good. My friend wanted to go to most if not all LA shows. By trading 1 ticket with other 10c members, he accomplished that. He also got TM tickets and those aren't necesarily that bad.
I hope they never get rid of seniority, but I think a lottery is appropriate if they can't figure out the ticket sales.
I remember the presale being sometime around January and I think Austrailia/Japan was Feb/March. By the time they got to LA/San diego, it was early June. Maybe for earlier shows but I think that wasn't an issue for my LA and San Diego shows. I think I sent my letter with cards/money orders with a receipt requested otherwise I would have stressed over them getting it in the first place. With a money order, you can't tell if a check cleared.
The thing that bothers me is the anger here on this site. I haven't seen such anger ever before except after the Bu$hleaguer/Uniondale incident. I think Kat/Sea took the board down for a couple of days just so things could cool off. Now it's almost that intense and because of tickets. Wow! And here they are (10c) year after year of trying to improve things. All I want to say to them is thanks for trying to improve things. Even if attempts to improve don't work, or something else unforeseen pops up, people have to recognise they are trying to make things easier. They listened to good debates in this forum and improved a bunch of things around multiple shows, seating up the sides instead of rear-floor, etc.
Coming full circle, like vinyl has, I'm just wondering if some old-fashion things are just better. Like 1 show or 3x5 cards in the mail, etc.
Here is the way we used to do it before computers and it worked fine.(see pic.)
Plus the tickets were also better way back then.
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Ahh...I remember those days.
Sleeping out at ticketmaster outlets for tix was always a good time too...I don't think I did it for PJ, but I did it every year for the HFStival in DC back in the '90's
These are great! I was trying to find my e-mail but I seem to have deleted everything prior to 2004. I kinda wish we'd go back to that.
I loved the 3X5 cards. I also liked it when we could only get one pair of tickets a tour. That gave me 2 opportunities to see PJ front row. The block system was really nice for me.
2011----10 shows
Supply and demand.
I would take this any day over not having a ten club ticket option at all.