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Postby DriftingByTheStorm » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:19 pm

I've seen mention of it in a thread or two, but no dedicated piece or place to discuss.

Fall of The Republic


Anyone seen this, or care to comment?
If you haven't you SHOULD.

Very timely, and well done interviews with over a dozen intelligent, well reasoned, articulate folks who seem to TRULY care about United States sovereignty, personal freedom, social justice, and what was once called "the American way" ... a way that was lost in a fog long ago...

... lost in a fog, strangled, and buried in the mud by a bunch of corporatist synarchists who prefer back room private agreements and hush-hush bribed quid-pro-quo political arrangements to honest, forthright government of, by and for the people.

This movie goes over the ins and outs of how you are being conned out of your welfare, your job security, your savings, and your human birthright by a bunch of greedy, corrupt, power-hungry, war-mongering freakazoids who worship at the very idol of Mammon.

Say what you want, just be respectful, and well reasoned.
Call me part of "a desperate consipracy of dangerous and ill designed men", and i shall thank you and cary on with the plot.

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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby TravisTheSky » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:24 am

Essential viewing. If you've had money in the past, or hope to ever make money again, watch this film.

I had watched The Obama Deception about two weeks before this documentary was released. Obama Deception is also brilliant, but Fall Of The Republic is so timely with its financial information. I am in the process of e-mailing the link to everyone that might take the time to see it.

I love how every statement is backed up, on the spot, with official proof. There's no, "Take my word for it. Sources have informed me..." Or anything like that. The news articles and government documents are shown onscreen.

I was outraged by the latest bank bailout earlier this year. The clips used for this film are jaw-dropping. I shook my head as I watched our elected officials (and unelected "appointed" ones) arrogantly testify on camera that they gave trillions of our dollars to unnamed banks. The Nirvana lyric, "Rape me. Rape me again" plays in my head as I think of these banksters. Most hard-working Americans quibble about welfare Moms and immigrants taking advantage, whilst the banks/corporations/military industrial complex rob us blind.

I respect this film. The information is presented simply, yet eloquently. It is 2 hours 24 minutes, but it is NOT long. It's easy to lose interest in the first half hour. It soon becomes gripping, I promise! (Watch for the segment about sport stadiums: Good, evil stuff!)

Oh, and it's FREE.
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby Byrnzie » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:27 am

Thanks. I'll check it out.
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby prfctlefts » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:47 pm

I have to say that I don't always agree with A.J. on certain subjects but I do when it comes to globalism. Everybody really needs to watch this video. It's kinda long but it's worth it and If this doesn't wake you up then nothing will. :(
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby Jeanwah » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:00 pm

The problem with this movie and The Obama Deception (and no, I haven't watched them yet) is that the shear title of one and the premise of both is HATE towards the the present president. That underlying factor dismisses any rationality and takes away from any truths in my mind and I have yet to watch more then 3 minutes of it. For the record, I'm no fan of Obama, either.

Just like with any other documentary meant to reveal truths, yet throws in hatred for a certain politician, it reeks of bias and that just makes me not want to even watch it now.
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby TravisTheSky » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:51 pm

Jeanwah wrote:The problem with this movie and The Obama Deception (and no, I haven't watched them yet) is that the shear title of one and the premise of both is HATE towards the the present president. That underlying factor dismisses any rationality and takes away from any truths in my mind and I have yet to watch more then 3 minutes of it. For the record, I'm no fan of Obama, either.

Just like with any other documentary meant to reveal truths, yet throws in hatred for a certain politician, it reeks of bias and that just makes me not want to even watch it now.


Ah, then clearly you have not seen either movie. The only hatred is for the two-party system, regardless of the name and face of the current president. Both films are a little anti-Obama, anti-Bush, anti-Billary, anti-The Other Bush, etc. But they are mostly against the money powers behind the facade of presidency.


I remember the days when 'documentaries' were nature films, or day-in-the-life type of recordings about a person or group of people. A new term is needed.
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby Jeanwah » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:50 am

TravisTheSky wrote:
Jeanwah wrote:The problem with this movie and The Obama Deception (and no, I haven't watched them yet) is that the shear title of one and the premise of both is HATE towards the the present president. That underlying factor dismisses any rationality and takes away from any truths in my mind and I have yet to watch more then 3 minutes of it. For the record, I'm no fan of Obama, either.

Just like with any other documentary meant to reveal truths, yet throws in hatred for a certain politician, it reeks of bias and that just makes me not want to even watch it now.


Ah, then clearly you have not seen either movie. The only hatred is for the two-party system, regardless of the name and face of the current president. Both films are a little anti-Obama, anti-Bush, anti-Billary, anti-The Other Bush, etc. But they are mostly against the money powers behind the facade of presidency.

I remember the days when 'documentaries' were nature films, or day-in-the-life type of recordings about a person or group of people. A new term is needed.


No, I haven't seen either. But the name of the "Obama Deception" makes it sound like an anti-Obama film, regardless of what it's really about. And I watched the first few minutes of Fall of the Republic, and although they bring the big picture into play, they definitely talk about Obama's part in it, specifically. Not to mention that the footer mentions that the movie is in response to the Obama Deception. If these two films are really about the system and not partisan or anti one person, then they should address that upfront.

That's why it turns me off. How about an objective film about the system that doesn't blame any one specific person, but them all? Because they're all to blame, not just Obama.
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby VINNY GOOMBA » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:51 am

Jeanwah wrote:
TravisTheSky wrote:
Jeanwah wrote:The problem with this movie and The Obama Deception (and no, I haven't watched them yet) is that the shear title of one and the premise of both is HATE towards the the present president. That underlying factor dismisses any rationality and takes away from any truths in my mind and I have yet to watch more then 3 minutes of it. For the record, I'm no fan of Obama, either.

Just like with any other documentary meant to reveal truths, yet throws in hatred for a certain politician, it reeks of bias and that just makes me not want to even watch it now.


Ah, then clearly you have not seen either movie. The only hatred is for the two-party system, regardless of the name and face of the current president. Both films are a little anti-Obama, anti-Bush, anti-Billary, anti-The Other Bush, etc. But they are mostly against the money powers behind the facade of presidency.

I remember the days when 'documentaries' were nature films, or day-in-the-life type of recordings about a person or group of people. A new term is needed.


No, I haven't seen either. But the name of the "Obama Deception" makes it sound like an anti-Obama film, regardless of what it's really about. And I watched the first few minutes of Fall of the Republic, and although they bring the big picture into play, they definitely talk about Obama's part in it, specifically. Not to mention that the footer mentions that the movie is in response to the Obama Deception. If these two films are really about the system and not partisan or anti one person, then they should address that upfront.

That's why it turns me off. How about an objective film about the system that doesn't blame any one specific person, but them all? Because they're all to blame, not just Obama.


Obama Deception = Obama is a frontman. Plain and simple. It's not really an attack on him, as it is the whole system. It is certainly more of an attack on the cult of personality that surrounds him, than against the man himself. Also, Fall of the Republic is sort of a sequel to the Obama Deception, although I've only listened to it while working at half attention so far. If I'm not mistaken, the version of The Obama Deception that I watched actually has a short prologue explaining that all parties are to blame and that past movies by Alex Jones are proof that the problems do not just lie with one person.

Basically, if you view these 2 movies as one long movie, which they kind of are, you've started in the middle-- maybe the worst place you could start? ;)

But, If you're turned off, you're turned off. I'm responding to you because based on much of your past posts, these movies will probably resonate with you if you watch them in the right order.
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby porchmonkey77 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:32 pm

I am in the process of e-mailing the link to everyone that might take the time to see it.

I would very much like the link. How can I send you my email address?
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby DriftingByTheStorm » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:12 pm

porchmonkey77 wrote:I am in the process of e-mailing the link to everyone that might take the time to see it.

I would very much like the link. How can I send you my email address?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

JEANWAH:
I am saddened that you have already closed your mind to this movie (and Obama Deception).

It is said REPEATEDLY throughout the movie that "THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS, OR OBAMA"
it is said REPEATEDLY "THE ELITE CONTROL BOTH PARTIES"
"AS LONG AS THE PEOPLE FALL FOR THE FALSE LEFT RIGHT PARADIGM THEY WIN"
"Left Right Politics is just a game to KEEP THE PEOPLE DIVIDED AND FIGHTING EACHOTHER".

In these and MORE ways, this idea is expressed throughout both movies.

If you are truly too close minded to accept that someone can make a TIMELY TOPICAL movie about a person, party, or ideology, without meaning to BLAME IN SOLE that one person, then i feel sad for you (and for the millions of others who are probably likewise too close minded to accept THE TRUTH).

THE ONLY REASON ALEX MADE "THE OBAMA DECEPTION" WAS SPECIFICALLY TO WAKE UP PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA.

OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO USE OBAMA SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HIS SUPPORTERS ARE EXACTLY WHO THE MOVIE IS AIMED AT.

And the only reason he had to make such a movie in the first place, is because Alex Jones RIGHTLY ASSESSED THE SITUATION and understood that, to borrow a football metaphor, if bush was the CENTER, then Obama is the QUARTERBACK.

And what i mean by that (and what Alex understands to be true) is that in the grand scheme of things, Bush was evil in so much as he SET THE BALL IN MOTION, starting the play that the coach (the elite behind the scenes) called, but he HANDED IT OFF TO OBAMA, WHO IS GOING TO DO THE REAL DIRTY WORK.

Bush set up the wars in the middle east, and he set the ball in motion for the bail outs, but it is Obama, ON WHOSE COATTAILS OF CONGENIALITY, STAR POWER, AND FALSE IMAGE, will the new world orders ultimate ambitions attempt to be realized.

THIS IS WHY ALEX MADE THESE MOVIES,
because he understands that NOW IS THE TIME,
that Obama is "the man" who has been selected to do these dirty jobs,
and that historically speaking when a "cult of personality" like Obama gets put in to the high office of a sovereign democratic state that things have the tendency to go VERY VERY WRONG for the citizenry.

THIS is why Alex deemed it so critical to put out a movie "about" Obama.
The TRUTH is, and it is stated EXPLICITLY throughout both movies,
that these movies are just A CRY FOR PEOPLE TO OPEN THEIR MINDS, THINK FOR THEMSELVES,
and to NOT GET FOOLED AGAIN!

Now go listen to the who,
and MEET THE NEW BOSS,
SAME AS THE OLD BOSS!
Call me part of "a desperate consipracy of dangerous and ill designed men", and i shall thank you and cary on with the plot.

"Tonight I am not going to try to prove anything. In fact, no one can prove anything to those who cannot prove the matter to themselves."

- Henry T. Moray, inventor of the radiant energy device,
Speech at Valley State College, Northridge, Ca. Jan. 23rd 1962.

"Go back to bed, America, your government has figured out how it all transpired, go back to bed America, your government is in control again. Here, here's American Gladiators, watch this, shut up, go back to bed America, here is American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it, watch these pituitary retards bang their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here you go America--you are free to do as we tell you! You are free to do as we tell you!"
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby prfctlefts » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:30 pm

I've told several of my co workers about this film and just as I thought the re-action I got was :eh: :yawn: :yawn:. I don't understand how some people care more about Football or dancing with the stars or just don't give a fuck.
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby Sludge Factory » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:40 pm

prfctlefts wrote:I've told several of my co workers about this film and just as I thought the re-action I got was :eh: :yawn: :yawn:. I don't understand how some people care more about Football or dancing with the stars or just don't give a fuck.


Yeah, I hear ya there. I try to tell people about this stuff sometimes but they say they don't have the time then proceed to get stupid watching reality shows like "SuperFuck: watch the McFucks fuck everyone over and in the process fuck themselves in the end!" (At least that's what I see when I try and sit down to watch them)
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby porchmonkey77 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:52 pm

Sludge Factory wrote:
prfctlefts wrote:I've told several of my co workers about this film and just as I thought the re-action I got was :eh: :yawn: :yawn:. I don't understand how some people care more about Football or dancing with the stars or just don't give a fuck.


Yeah, I hear ya there. I try to tell people about this stuff sometimes but they say they don't have the time then proceed to get stupid watching reality shows like "SuperFuck: watch the McFucks fuck everyone over and in the process fuck themselves in the end!" (At least that's what I see when I try and sit down to watch them)

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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby Jeanwah » Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:40 pm

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:JEANWAH:
I am saddened that you have already closed your mind to this movie (and Obama Deception).

It is said REPEATEDLY throughout the movie that "THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS, OR OBAMA"
it is said REPEATEDLY "THE ELITE CONTROL BOTH PARTIES"
"AS LONG AS THE PEOPLE FALL FOR THE FALSE LEFT RIGHT PARADIGM THEY WIN"
"Left Right Politics is just a game to KEEP THE PEOPLE DIVIDED AND FIGHTING EACHOTHER".

In these and MORE ways, this idea is expressed throughout both movies.

If you are truly too close minded to accept that someone can make a TIMELY TOPICAL movie about a person, party, or ideology, without meaning to BLAME IN SOLE that one person, then i feel sad for you (and for the millions of others who are probably likewise too close minded to accept THE TRUTH).

THE ONLY REASON ALEX MADE "THE OBAMA DECEPTION" WAS SPECIFICALLY TO WAKE UP PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA.

OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO USE OBAMA SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HIS SUPPORTERS ARE EXACTLY WHO THE MOVIE IS AIMED AT.

And the only reason he had to make such a movie in the first place, is because Alex Jones RIGHTLY ASSESSED THE SITUATION and understood that, to borrow a football metaphor, if bush was the CENTER, then Obama is the QUARTERBACK.

And what i mean by that (and what Alex understands to be true) is that in the grand scheme of things, Bush was evil in so much as he SET THE BALL IN MOTION, starting the play that the coach (the elite behind the scenes) called, but he HANDED IT OFF TO OBAMA, WHO IS GOING TO DO THE REAL DIRTY WORK.

Bush set up the wars in the middle east, and he set the ball in motion for the bail outs, but it is Obama, ON WHOSE COATTAILS OF CONGENIALITY, STAR POWER, AND FALSE IMAGE, will the new world orders ultimate ambitions attempt to be realized.

THIS IS WHY ALEX MADE THESE MOVIES,
because he understands that NOW IS THE TIME,
that Obama is "the man" who has been selected to do these dirty jobs,
and that historically speaking when a "cult of personality" like Obama gets put in to the high office of a sovereign democratic state that things have the tendency to go VERY VERY WRONG for the citizenry.

THIS is why Alex deemed it so critical to put out a movie "about" Obama.
The TRUTH is, and it is stated EXPLICITLY throughout both movies,
that these movies are just A CRY FOR PEOPLE TO OPEN THEIR MINDS, THINK FOR THEMSELVES,
and to NOT GET FOOLED AGAIN!

Now go listen to the who,
and MEET THE NEW BOSS,
SAME AS THE OLD BOSS!

You clearly know nothing about me, Drifting, I'm on your side and am in no way closed-minded.

What I am saying is that by having a title like that, whether the director, writer, creator in charge intentionally did it this way or not, it makes one think "Oh great, another Obama bashing movie". One side will say "I can't wait to check it out since I hate the guy". And the other side will say "Another Obama hater, and roll their eyes"...and NOT watch. Psychologically, it's not going to persuade the Obama voters to watch it, it will do the opposite. Just like with An Inconvenient Truth, those who hate Gore refuse to watch it simply because it involved him. So with this, those who blindly support, won't watch a film called "The Obama Deception".

A different title would have worked better, that's all I'm saying, because that title throws people off from the real message of the films: that the whole system is corrupt. And people NEED to see films about that!
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Re: Movie: Fall of the Republic

Postby yahamita » Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:17 pm

I sent this link to several friends, and one in particular commented that this was DEAD ON with dates and information. I am making a point to watch this tonight. Will have my thoughts/comments posted tomorrow.
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