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The FBI files

JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
edited November 2016 in A Moving Train
So far the FBI has opened the vault and has/have released files relating to Hillary Clinton's emails, The William J Clinton Foundation and Vince Foster.

https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton

https://vault.fbi.gov/william-j.-clinton-foundation

https://vault.fbi.gov/vincent-foster
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    Do you think the timing is suspicious?
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Who is Marc Rich? A criminal who was pardoned by Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001 the last day he was in power. Rich at one point was one of the FBI's top 10 most wanted.
    What is this about?
    The FBI had published on its website 129 pages of internal documents related to a criminal investigation into former president Bill Clinton’s pardon of a Marc Rich, a generous Democrat party donor and FBI top 10 most wanted.
    The newly disclosed documents show the FBI internally referred to the matter as a “sensitive investigation concerning possible public corruption surrounding the pardons granted by former president William Clinton.”
    The publication of the files related to the Marc Rich pardon investigation. The investigation, conducted between 2001 and 2005 looked at whether Clinton had issued the pardon in exchange for political donations, including to Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate race and to the Clinton Foundation. Pay to play.
    Eric Holder, was deputy attorney general at the time of the Marc Rich pardon. He admitted that he had been contacted directly by Rich’s attorney. The pardon was criticized in part for bypassing an established process in which Justice lawyers review applications for merit. Holder’s name was one of only a few not blacked out in the redacted files released this week.
    FBI Comey told senators in 2008 that he had been “stunned” by the Marc Rich pardon and that Holder’s actions in the case reflected a “huge misjudgment.”
    The allegations that the pardon was pay-to-play came up in the early 2000s . The criminal investigation files served as an important reminder of the vigor of the criminal probe into Bill Clinton's actions at the time.
    Peter Kadzik (the current assistant attorney general of DoJ) was attorney to Mark Rich! He lobbied Podesta (then white house chief of staff) for the pardon that Bill Clinton eventually granted. He also was attorney to Podesta in the Lewinsky affair. Podesta recommended Kadzik to the Obama administration for his current job. Podesta assisted Kadzik's son in finding a job in the current Clinton campaign. Kadzik has also donated to (earlier?) Hillary Clinton campaigns.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Do you think the timing is suspicious?

    Very! Not sure what to make of it just yet.
    What are these releases, a distraction, are they the FBIs get back at Comey, are they trying to tip off "journalists" and "citizen journalists" on where to do the digging?
    In term of impact, I don't think it will matter much, they wont be covered by MSM and even if it is I dont think the masses care or (I hate to say this) have the capacity to truly understand the layers and layers of corruption and cronyism.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Who is Marc Rich?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Rich
    Marc Rich was born December 18, 1934 and died on June 26, 2013. He was a businessmen, his focus was in banking and trade commodities.
    Rich founded the commodities trading giant Glencore. Today it is the World's 3rd largest family business, and the 10th largest company on the Fortune Global 500 list. It has headquarters in Switzerland, London, the Netherlands, and Jersey. As well subsidiaries all around the globe. Without a doubt its primary interests are oil, gas, and mining.
    Marc Rich was indicted in the United States in 1983 with business partner Picnus Green and fled the country.
    What did Marc Rich do?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/27/business/marc-rich-pardoned-financier-dies-at-78.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/jun/26/marc-rich-commodities-trader-fugitive-dies?INTCMP=SRCH
    Marc Rich and Pincus Green were indicted on 65 criminal counts including: tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering, and trading with Iran during the 1973-1974 Oil Embargo, when Rich used contacts in Iran and Iraq to circumvent the sanctions.
    In his own biography, and to his biographer Daniel Amann, Rich said his "most important and most profitable" business deals happened by violating international trade embargoes and doing business with the apartheid regime of South Africa.
    Rich admitted to doing business with: Apartheid South Africa, Fidel Castro's Cuba, Marxist Angola, the Nicaraguan Sandinistas, Gaddafi's Libya, Ceausescu's Romania, and Pinochet's Chile.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International#American_inquiries_and_legal_actions
    Rich was also believed to be involved with the Bank of Credit and Commerce International: a bank which was closed down for laundering money for people such as Saddamm Hussein, Manuel Noriega, and the Medellin Cartel and the terrorist group Abu Nidal. Rich was even reported to have been involved in arms deals in Iraq in the 1980s.
    Okay, that's who Marc Rich was. By why is that important?
    Marc Rich was pardoned by President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, hours before leaving office, in what the New York Times would call one of history's most "flagrant abuses of presidential power."
    Why was Rich's pardon so bad?
    Long story short? Rich bought his pardon.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pardoned-financier-marc-rich-dead-at-78/
    Rich funneled $1 million to the Democratic party, including more than $100,000 to Hillary Clinton's Senate Campaign in New York, and $450,000 to the Clinton Library foundation.
    It was arguably the most controversial moment of Clinton's presidency. He went on to defend it, even citing the arguments of another controversial pardon receiver, one "Scooter" Libby.
    http://legaltimes.typepad.com/files/121908-jamescomey.pdf
    Then Deputy Attorny General Eric Holder argued for Rich's pardon. Eric Holder was Obama's first Attorney General
    The pardon of Marc Rich was so controversial there was a federal hearing on it. It was originally prosecuted by Federal Prosecutor Mary Jo White, but she stepped down and was replaced by the current director of the FBI James Comey, who ultimately found "No evidence of criminal activity." According to the Washington Post.
    http://nypost.com/2001/03/27/brits-seize-2-million-bound-for-marc-rich/
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,014

    Do you think the timing is suspicious?

    Not really. She got a free pass from the FBI already. I don't understand how anyone can deny that, she clearly did, but many disagree. She destroyed evidence that she was required to preserve and hand over, and had zero consequence. That is a free pass. The reasons for the free pass can only be speculation as I have no real idea other than guesses.

    This is also a guess and speculation about the timing, but it was a result from an unrelated investigation. My guess is some evidence was uncovered that could not possibly be ignored. And if anything, the release of what was uncovered is being delayed intentionally until after the votes are cast to favor Clinton.

    To think this investigation is made up to hurt Clinton wouldn't explain her first free pass with the FBI. But regardless of your stance, many seem to think there was some political motives behind it, and therefore some corruption within the FBI. So nothing would really surprise me at this point.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mace1229 said:

    Do you think the timing is suspicious?

    Not really. She got a free pass from the FBI already. I don't understand how anyone can deny that, she clearly did, but many disagree. She destroyed evidence that she was required to preserve and hand over, and had zero consequence. That is a free pass. The reasons for the free pass can only be speculation as I have no real idea other than guesses.

    This is also a guess and speculation about the timing, but it was a result from an unrelated investigation. My guess is some evidence was uncovered that could not possibly be ignored. And if anything, the release of what was uncovered is being delayed intentionally until after the votes are cast to favor Clinton.

    To think this investigation is made up to hurt Clinton wouldn't explain her first free pass with the FBI. But regardless of your stance, many seem to think there was some political motives behind it, and therefore some corruption within the FBI. So nothing would really surprise me at this point.
    Why the release of WJC Foundation docs and Vince Foster docs? I can understand the docs on Hilliary, can't understand the others. The FBI concludes that Foster was murdered not suicide, why release that now?
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    pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    mace1229 said:

    Do you think the timing is suspicious?

    Not really. She got a free pass from the FBI already. I don't understand how anyone can deny that, she clearly did, but many disagree. She destroyed evidence that she was required to preserve and hand over, and had zero consequence. That is a free pass. The reasons for the free pass can only be speculation as I have no real idea other than guesses.

    This is also a guess and speculation about the timing, but it was a result from an unrelated investigation. My guess is some evidence was uncovered that could not possibly be ignored. And if anything, the release of what was uncovered is being delayed intentionally until after the votes are cast to favor Clinton.

    To think this investigation is made up to hurt Clinton wouldn't explain her first free pass with the FBI. But regardless of your stance, many seem to think there was some political motives behind it, and therefore some corruption within the FBI. So nothing would really surprise me at this point.
    I mean ask Martha Stewart and Gen. Patreaus how they feel about this or the serviceman who was reprimanded for taking pictures inside a submarine

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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    layers and layers and layers of corruption or simply coincedences?

    Current FBI Director James Comey sat on the board of banking giant HSBC.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213
    The same Banking Giant that launders drug cartel money. And has been caught, charged and fined for doing so.
    https://investments.hsbc.co.uk/news/company/24989264/glencore-gallops-higher-as-liberum-bullish-on-china-s-coal-policy
    HSBC is also responsible for many of Glencore's investments. Again, Glencore was founded by the criminal Marc Rich, who paid for a pardon by former President Bill Clinton. A pardon which was investigated by James Comey, who sat on the board of HSBC, which laundered drug cartel money, and did business with a company that worked intimately with drug traffickers. Comey found "No evidence of criminal activity."
    Why are the Saudi's, Qatar, and the Democrats interested in Glencore?
    http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Glencore-Seeks-To-Offset-Weak-Year-With-Iran-Libya-Oil-Trading.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/apr/21/glencore-trade-iran-supplier-nuclear
    http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/tag/glencore/
    http://time.com/4055466/glencore/
    http://m.4-traders.com/GLENCORE-PLC-8017494/news/Glencore-Yemen-crude-exports-resume-at-a-trickle-from-Ash-Shihr-Oil-Terminal-22861238/
    Glencore is a trading company. They trade lots of things.
    Once Gadaffi fell in 2011, they began trading Libyan oil again.
    They trade Yemen's oil
    They trade Iraqi oil.
    Once the Iran deal was hitched, they began trading Iranian copper.
    In 2012 and 2013, they were caught trading aluminum to Iran's nuclear program(which was against international law at the time).
    And as Time reads, government policy since 2008 has made it so Glencore could sit back and make "EASY MONEY"

    Wikileaks has shown us Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Glencore investors TIED to Joule Unlimited and John Podesta, and thus in multiple directions James Comey,
    Qatar Gave Bill Clinton $1 million for a 5 minute meeting in 2011
    $1 million for a five minute meeting in 2011, Gadaffis fall in 2011, Saudi Arabia invests $400 million into Glencore in 2011, Glencore begin trading Libyan Oil in 2011.
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    JC29856 said:

    layers and layers and layers of corruption or simply coincedences?

    Current FBI Director James Comey sat on the board of banking giant HSBC.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/outrageous-hsbc-settlement-proves-the-drug-war-is-a-joke-20121213
    The same Banking Giant that launders drug cartel money. And has been caught, charged and fined for doing so.
    https://investments.hsbc.co.uk/news/company/24989264/glencore-gallops-higher-as-liberum-bullish-on-china-s-coal-policy
    HSBC is also responsible for many of Glencore's investments. Again, Glencore was founded by the criminal Marc Rich, who paid for a pardon by former President Bill Clinton. A pardon which was investigated by James Comey, who sat on the board of HSBC, which laundered drug cartel money, and did business with a company that worked intimately with drug traffickers. Comey found "No evidence of criminal activity."
    Why are the Saudi's, Qatar, and the Democrats interested in Glencore?
    http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Glencore-Seeks-To-Offset-Weak-Year-With-Iran-Libya-Oil-Trading.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/apr/21/glencore-trade-iran-supplier-nuclear
    http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/tag/glencore/
    http://time.com/4055466/glencore/
    http://m.4-traders.com/GLENCORE-PLC-8017494/news/Glencore-Yemen-crude-exports-resume-at-a-trickle-from-Ash-Shihr-Oil-Terminal-22861238/
    Glencore is a trading company. They trade lots of things.
    Once Gadaffi fell in 2011, they began trading Libyan oil again.
    They trade Yemen's oil
    They trade Iraqi oil.
    Once the Iran deal was hitched, they began trading Iranian copper.
    In 2012 and 2013, they were caught trading aluminum to Iran's nuclear program(which was against international law at the time).
    And as Time reads, government policy since 2008 has made it so Glencore could sit back and make "EASY MONEY"


    Wikileaks has shown us Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Glencore investors TIED to Joule Unlimited and John Podesta, and thus in multiple directions James Comey,
    Qatar Gave Bill Clinton $1 million for a 5 minute meeting in 2011
    $1 million for a five minute meeting in 2011, Gadaffis fall in 2011, Saudi Arabia invests $400 million into Glencore in 2011, Glencore begin trading Libyan Oil in 2011.

    Incredible information, JC.

    This shit is appalling
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,014
    pjalive21 said:

    mace1229 said:

    Do you think the timing is suspicious?

    Not really. She got a free pass from the FBI already. I don't understand how anyone can deny that, she clearly did, but many disagree. She destroyed evidence that she was required to preserve and hand over, and had zero consequence. That is a free pass. The reasons for the free pass can only be speculation as I have no real idea other than guesses.

    This is also a guess and speculation about the timing, but it was a result from an unrelated investigation. My guess is some evidence was uncovered that could not possibly be ignored. And if anything, the release of what was uncovered is being delayed intentionally until after the votes are cast to favor Clinton.

    To think this investigation is made up to hurt Clinton wouldn't explain her first free pass with the FBI. But regardless of your stance, many seem to think there was some political motives behind it, and therefore some corruption within the FBI. So nothing would really surprise me at this point.
    I mean ask Martha Stewart and Gen. Patreaus how they feel about this or the serviceman who was reprimanded for taking pictures inside a submarine

    Some have defended Clinton by saying he took pictures of a top secret sub and that's the difference. But if you look at all of his charges, they include destroying his cell phone and computer that the FBI requested, and potentially faces additional years for those charges alone. I simply can't understand how she can destroy evidence and it is okay to some. And anyone who says this isn't a big deal, ask those serving prison time for the same thing.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Peter Kadzik (the current assistant attorney general of DoJ) was attorney to Mark Rich! He lobbied Podesta (then white house chief of staff) for the pardon that Bill Clinton eventually granted. He also was attorney to Podesta in the Lewinsky affair. Podesta recommended Kadzik to the Obama administration for his current job. Podesta assisted Kadzik's son in finding a job in the current Clinton campaign. Kadzik has also donated to (earlier?) Hillary Clinton campaigns.

    From: *Peter Kadzik*
    Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2015
    Subject: Heads up
    To: John Podesta


    There is a HJC oversight hearing today where the head of our Civil Division will testify. Likely to get questions on State Department emails.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Thanks for all the info JC!
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://news.zanoso.com/article/a-coup-detat-in-the-united-states

    Steve Pieczenik, the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, has released a video explaining the recent events within the US Government. A video released on November 1, 2016, states that 15 US intelligence organizations have launched a counter-coup to the current administration's attempts to take over the United States. See more details in the video below.
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,542

    Do you think the timing is suspicious?

    Well, we know most of Trump's corrupt behavior, so might as well highlight on the Clinton corrupt behavior.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487

    Do you think the timing is suspicious?

    No more than Iran-Contra indictments right before election of 1992. Politics is a dirty game.
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    JC29856 said:

    Peter Kadzik (the current assistant attorney general of DoJ) was attorney to Mark Rich! He lobbied Podesta (then white house chief of staff) for the pardon that Bill Clinton eventually granted. He also was attorney to Podesta in the Lewinsky affair. Podesta recommended Kadzik to the Obama administration for his current job. Podesta assisted Kadzik's son in finding a job in the current Clinton campaign. Kadzik has also donated to (earlier?) Hillary Clinton campaigns.

    From: *Peter Kadzik*
    Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2015
    Subject: Heads up
    To: John Podesta


    There is a HJC oversight hearing today where the head of our Civil Division will testify. Likely to get questions on State Department emails.

    Media is silent.

    Pro-Clinton people say it's the same thing other politicians were doing. I believe that's a Clinton talking point. Collin Powell had a server, too.
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    tonifig8 said:
    This is a true Patriot.
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    unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    tonifig8 said:

    tonifig8 said:
    This is a true Patriot.
    Yes he is. He delivered what Obama promised but failed to; transparency.
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited November 2016
    Source Reddit.

    So, it’s come to the attention of /r/WikiLeaks and /r/Conspiracy that there’s a video floating around by Steve Pieczenik, titled The Hillary Clinton Takeover of the United States.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM

    There’s also this video by Judge Andrew Napolitano mentioning that the NSA hacked Clinton’s emails.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TZWkjQn5oo

    "The source of these emails and leaks has nothing to do with Russia at all. I discovered what the source was when I attended the Sam Adam's whistleblower award in Washington. The source of these emails comes from within official circles in Washington DC. You should look to Washington not to Moscow."

    Also, this article has been floating around.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/former-british-ambassador-claims-source-podesta-leaks-comes-within-washington

    So, there are multiple sources telling us that the NSA and security administrators within the US are sending WikiLeaks information.

    We also had a DYN DDOS attack in October, which caused WikiLeaks to send out this strange tweet.

    Mr. Assange is still alive and WikiLeaks is still publishing. We ask supporters to stop taking down the US internet. You proved your point.



    If the DYN DDOS attack is an internal attack of the NSA on DYN networks then the tweet is absolutely correct. The NSA is seeding info to WikiLeaks and WikiLeaks is acknowledging that they understand that the NSA is attacking DYN networks.
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    tonifig8 said:

    Source Reddit.

    So, it’s come to the attention of /r/WikiLeaks and /r/Conspiracy that there’s a video floating around by Steve Pieczenik, titled The Hillary Clinton Takeover of the United States.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM

    There’s also this video by Judge Andrew Napolitano mentioning that the NSA hacked Clinton’s emails.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TZWkjQn5oo

    "The source of these emails and leaks has nothing to do with Russia at all. I discovered what the source was when I attended the Sam Adam's whistleblower award in Washington. The source of these emails comes from within official circles in Washington DC. You should look to Washington not to Moscow."

    Also, this article has been floating around.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-02/former-british-ambassador-claims-source-podesta-leaks-comes-within-washington

    So, there are multiple sources telling us that the NSA and security administrators within the US are sending WikiLeaks information.

    We also had a DYN DDOS attack in October, which caused WikiLeaks to send out this strange tweet.

    Mr. Assange is still alive and WikiLeaks is still publishing. We ask supporters to stop taking down the US internet. You proved your point.



    If the DYN DDOS attack is an internal attack of the NSA on DYN networks then the tweet is absolutely correct. The NSA is seeding info to WikiLeaks and WikiLeaks is acknowledging that they understand that the NSA is attacking DYN networks.
    http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/11/level-3-drops-its-packets-for-hours-causing-internet-traffic-jam/
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    Boxes&BooksBoxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Podesta going to China to represent the state department while not being employed by the govt?

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44093

    apparently there was another email from the State Dept congratulating Podesta for a job well done in China. WTF?
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