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SCHSCH Easton CT Posts: 59
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Foo Fighters playing MSG this month. Bruce performing on Broadway, it goes on and on.
  7 years waiting for an album, then Covid.  EV plays with a different group for vaccination event.  Are we sure Pearl Jam is  actually still together? I know there are a few shows down the road and next year.  Is there not any urgency to to something live as a band with new songs for its very loyal fan base?

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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,873
    Yes. Yes we are. 
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,616
    You have a different idea of what "fan loyalty" gets them/us than I do. 
    The way that I see it, there is no responsibility to tour or to make new music that you like. 
    Because you buy their music, you feel they owe you something? 

    They made a product.
    You bought it.
    End of transaction.
    If they offer you the chance to see them play, and you pay for it...they play and you watch.
    End of transaction.
    If they offer you clothing or even stupid viewfinders...and you pay for it.  You get to keep what you paid for.
    End of transaction.

    Why is there a feeling that fans are owed anything by bands?
    This is very odd, to me.
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,883
    They have 2 shows scheduled for September.  September of this year. You could attend one if you want. 
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    drfoxdrfox Posts: 1,067
    In some ways who wants to be the first major world famous band to test out a concert post pandemic!?! Great that FF are doing this, though many bands, like PJ, are probably looking to see how these events go. Assuming everything is fine the PJ Sept shows and 2022 Euro shows will go ahead with I imagine some more US shows will be arranged in the Autumn or Spring. 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    SCH said:
    Foo Fighters playing MSG this month. Bruce performing on Broadway, it goes on and on.
      7 years waiting for an album, then Covid.  EV plays with a different group for vaccination event.  Are we sure Pearl Jam is  actually still together? I know there are a few shows down the road and next year.  Is there not any urgency to to something live as a band with new songs for its very loyal fan base?

    Nailed it. 

    They have shows planned, but aren't actually still together. Good call. 
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    SCHSCH Easton CT Posts: 59
    They don't owe anybody anything. I will always love Pearl Jam more than any band. They can do as little as they want.  Simply stating their output over the past 8 or 9 years is very very low, compared to the previous 10 years and compared to many other bands.  Can be frustrating as a fan...none of us are getting any younger. 
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,191
    Absence makes the heart grow fonder 
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    JM144705JM144705 Philadelphia Posts: 429
    SCH said:
    They don't owe anybody anything. I will always love Pearl Jam more than any band. They can do as little as they want.  Simply stating their output over the past 8 or 9 years is very very low, compared to the previous 10 years and compared to many other bands.  Can be frustrating as a fan...none of us are getting any younger. 
    Actually they owe thousands of fans either hundreds of dollars (millions to them) or to play the shows that have been paid for a year ago. So yeah, they do owe a lot of people things. 
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,616
    :lol:.   
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,447
    edited June 2021
    pjhawks said:
    Absence makes the heart grow fonder 
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    Post edited by Spunkie on
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    EdVedder_1EdVedder_1 Posts: 144
    I've got tickets to shows in a country they can't get into right now. I'm still excited about that. :)
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,419
    Also… Foo Fighters in the new Dodge commercial.  Pearl Jam needs to step it up!  🤣
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    GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,522
    F Me In The Brain said:
    You have a different idea of what "fan loyalty" gets them/us than I do. 
    The way that I see it, there is no responsibility to tour or to make new music that you like. 
    Because you buy their music, you feel they owe you something? 

    They made a product.
    You bought it.
    End of transaction.
    If they offer you the chance to see them play, and you pay for it...they play and you watch.
    End of transaction.
    If they offer you clothing or even stupid viewfinders...and you pay for it.  You get to keep what you paid for.
    End of transaction.

    Why is there a feeling that fans are owed anything by bands?
    This is very odd, to me.
    This is the most factually correct statement I have ever read. Ever.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475

    I imagine Pearl Jam wants to be back on the road if for no other reason than to support their crew and employees who depend on the band for their livelihood... believe it or not, there are more important things at stake here than satisfying a "very loyal fan base".


    Ament mentioned in a recent interview that considering how much their fans travel to see them, they want to get this right. Impatient fans don't seem to be factoring into their decision at this moment. 
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,378
    F Me In The Brain said:
    You have a different idea of what "fan loyalty" gets them/us than I do. 
    The way that I see it, there is no responsibility to tour or to make new music that you like. 
    Because you buy their music, you feel they owe you something? 

    They made a product.
    You bought it.
    End of transaction.
    If they offer you the chance to see them play, and you pay for it...they play and you watch.
    End of transaction.
    If they offer you clothing or even stupid viewfinders...and you pay for it.  You get to keep what you paid for.
    End of transaction.

    Why is there a feeling that fans are owed anything by bands?
    This is very odd, to me.
    Spot on.
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    Matts3221Matts3221 Posts: 658
    F Me In The Brain said:
    You have a different idea of what "fan loyalty" gets them/us than I do. 
    The way that I see it, there is no responsibility to tour or to make new music that you like. 
    Because you buy their music, you feel they owe you something? 

    They made a product.
    You bought it.
    End of transaction.
    If they offer you the chance to see them play, and you pay for it...they play and you watch.
    End of transaction.
    If they offer you clothing or even stupid viewfinders...and you pay for it.  You get to keep what you paid for.
    End of transaction.

    Why is there a feeling that fans are owed anything by bands?
    This is very odd, to me.


    Perfectly Said.

    Also if you wanted your money back for tickets you could have gotten it already.

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    helplessdancerhelplessdancer Posts: 5,262
    It would not be a good idea to grab onto pearl jam too hard.
    yes every show is still special. yes they are still together.
    yes, they play into, absence makes the heart grow fonder scene.
    and that, vs over saturation ... i get their plan... especially now...a legacy band!
    finding other incredible newer live bands is the only solution imo.
    i'm loyal fan for sure, but i'm also not going to sit around waiting, cause that drove me mad.
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