Hell no. I would rather miss 20 shows because of bad luck and great prices than be forced to pay 500 to get in the building.
To about a quarter of the country there never is such a thing as great prices for a majority of the fans.
Either you pay to travel, pay the scalpers, or pay front row prices to sit on the ceiling. Or win a lottery once a decade if you're lucky.
If you play the lottery right, you win well more often than once a decade. If you are insistent on only hitting shows in NYC, that's the chance you take.
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Hell no. I would rather miss 20 shows because of bad luck and great prices than be forced to pay 500 to get in the building.
To about a quarter of the country there never is such a thing as great prices for a majority of the fans.
Either you pay to travel, pay the scalpers, or pay front row prices to sit on the ceiling. Or win a lottery once a decade if you're lucky.
If you play the lottery right, you win well more often than once a decade. If you are insistent on only hitting shows in NYC, that's the chance you take.
The context is great prices.
Even if I had the availability to take a few days to travel whenever a tour drops, that costs hundreds of dollars to travel plus the value of the days taken. That's very expensive. I've done and enjoyed it, but it comes at a steep cost.
They love their small markets, I get that. They like to rattle off from the stage all the small cities they have played over the years..
But that brings winners and losers. If you live among the masses, a fair face value ticket without spending huge amounts of money is not a realistic occurence.
Obviously not a popular thought. $500 makes the good seats a luxury item and not a “10C low number” or “lucky on ticketmaster” thing.
Lots of bands/pop singers do this. PJ certainly could do this with their popularity and with their fanbase being at an age where financial security is there. Im against it tho. Removes a lot of the fun.
Hell no. I would rather miss 20 shows because of bad luck and great prices than be forced to pay 500 to get in the building.
To about a quarter of the country there never is such a thing as great prices for a majority of the fans.
Either you pay to travel, pay the scalpers, or pay front row prices to sit on the ceiling. Or win a lottery once a decade if you're lucky.
If you play the lottery right, you win well more often than once a decade. If you are insistent on only hitting shows in NYC, that's the chance you take.
The context is great prices.
Even if I had the availability to take a few days to travel whenever a tour drops, that costs hundreds of dollars to travel plus the value of the days taken. That's very expensive. I've done and enjoyed it, but it comes at a steep cost.
They love their small markets, I get that. They like to rattle off from the stage all the small cities they have played over the years..
But that brings winners and losers. If you live among the masses, a fair face value ticket without spending huge amounts of money is not a realistic occurence.
Since they never come to Louisville KY, my only choice to travel to see them. That's the fact for a lot of folks.
If people want to be really close at a PJ show then either try for GA and go for the rail or go to a festival appearance and claim your spot at 11am (or buy VIP+ or whatever the festival sells). At some festivals you can almost be on stage with the highest VIP ticket. Just try for that.
$500 good seats for regular arena shows is pretty silly.
They haven't been in Ireland for a decade, so we travel to see them. If I don't want to go and see them, I won't spend the money. That's just business.
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Those of us who can afford $500 concert tickets can also afford to take some Ls every now and then.
I want to give this cat a trophy for seemingly being the most sensible person on the forum.
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Play more shows. The band wouldn’t have outrageous demand if they actually toured.
This keeps getting suggested. It's not a real thing. New album aside, for all intents and purposes, the band is semi-retired.
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Play more shows. The band wouldn’t have outrageous demand if they actually toured.
This keeps getting suggested. It's not a real thing. New album aside, for all intents and purposes, the band is semi-retired.
I agree. I'm just thankful they are still alive, still together, and still playing shows at all. There are plenty of bands that aren't. People have no sense of gratitude or perspective. I'd love a summer DMB style tour, don't get me wrong, but I'm thankful as hell for the chance to see them in Baltimore this spring.
The obvious solution is 50+ shows per year... but that ain’t happening.
this is a truism. when they toured in 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006 if you wanted to get in a show at face value you would have to try real hard to pay more than face.
Bottom line, if you can spend $500 on a ticket, you would have been wise enough to have held a tenclub member # and applied to get into one of the easy obvious shows to win, ie any show other than Baltimore or MSG, and been willing to travel.
Exactly. Somehow I have tickets to 8 shows this year so far and all at face value. 7 I got through 10c and one 10c through a friend. Tickets aren’t scarce unless referring to 1 particular show in NYC (and you can pay $$$ and get in).
You got seven shows through the lotto on one 10C membership?
3 Euro shows, 4 US lottery wins (west coast), and then a friend won tickets to a show.
Bottom line, if you can spend $500 on a ticket, you would have been wise enough to have held a tenclub member # and applied to get into one of the easy obvious shows to win, ie any show other than Baltimore or MSG, and been willing to travel.
Exactly. Somehow I have tickets to 8 shows this year so far and all at face value. 7 I got through 10c and one 10c through a friend. Tickets aren’t scarce unless referring to 1 particular show in NYC (and you can pay $$$ and get in).
You got seven shows through the lotto on one 10C membership?
3 Euro shows, 4 US lottery wins (west coast), and then a friend won tickets to a show.
Ah, I see. I wasn't considering the success of scoring tix to Euro shows in the context of this discussion since it was a separate lottery. Enjoy your shows!
Any lottery that I have ever taken part in, I have been successful. Granted, I think that may only be 2, but still, you just have to try and hope for the best. Where there's a will there's a way. I always knew if I was unsuccessful that I would find a way to get to the shows by hook or by crook.
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Hell no. I would rather miss 20 shows because of bad luck and great prices than be forced to pay 500 to get in the building.
To about a quarter of the country there never is such a thing as great prices for a majority of the fans.
Either you pay to travel, pay the scalpers, or pay front row prices to sit on the ceiling. Or win a lottery once a decade if you're lucky.
If you play the lottery right, you win well more often than once a decade. If you are insistent on only hitting shows in NYC, that's the chance you take.
The context is great prices.
Even if I had the availability to take a few days to travel whenever a tour drops, that costs hundreds of dollars to travel plus the value of the days taken. That's very expensive. I've done and enjoyed it, but it comes at a steep cost.
They love their small markets, I get that. They like to rattle off from the stage all the small cities they have played over the years..
But that brings winners and losers. If you live among the masses, a fair face value ticket without spending huge amounts of money is not a realistic occurence.
you can't be freaking serious when you say this, there is nowhere they cater more to than large cities since 2008.
Hell no. I would rather miss 20 shows because of bad luck and great prices than be forced to pay 500 to get in the building.
To about a quarter of the country there never is such a thing as great prices for a majority of the fans.
Either you pay to travel, pay the scalpers, or pay front row prices to sit on the ceiling. Or win a lottery once a decade if you're lucky.
If you play the lottery right, you win well more often than once a decade. If you are insistent on only hitting shows in NYC, that's the chance you take.
The context is great prices.
Even if I had the availability to take a few days to travel whenever a tour drops, that costs hundreds of dollars to travel plus the value of the days taken. That's very expensive. I've done and enjoyed it, but it comes at a steep cost.
They love their small markets, I get that. They like to rattle off from the stage all the small cities they have played over the years..
But that brings winners and losers. If you live among the masses, a fair face value ticket without spending huge amounts of money is not a realistic occurence.
you can't be freaking serious when you say this, there is nowhere they cater more to than large cities since 2008.
I can't ever recall hearing them "rattle off from the stage all the small cities they've played over the years" even once, let alone enough times for me to think that they like doing it.
The closest I have ever seen them come to doing something like that is when they maybe reminisce briefly about the first time they came to the city or the country that they're in. But most of the time I find that to be a welcome nostalgia trip, and am always impressed by what they remember.
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Just love it when being luckier and smarter in choosing is kicking the shit out of those that think money is so important. Never have and probably never will see pj play where I live, Abq. Should I cry or bitch? No. I get off my poor ass and travel at minimum 7 hours driving. So these complainers are not only rich, but really, really lazy. They appear to need to be spoon fed everything and don't understand sacrifice. If pj could have done it this way from the start, they would have. Our band wants us to see them play. Most bands don't give a fuck who is in the audience as long as they get paid. VERY GRATEFUL AND FAITHFUL!
Hell no. I would rather miss 20 shows because of bad luck and great prices than be forced to pay 500 to get in the building.
To about a quarter of the country there never is such a thing as great prices for a majority of the fans.
Either you pay to travel, pay the scalpers, or pay front row prices to sit on the ceiling. Or win a lottery once a decade if you're lucky.
If you play the lottery right, you win well more often than once a decade. If you are insistent on only hitting shows in NYC, that's the chance you take.
The context is great prices.
Even if I had the availability to take a few days to travel whenever a tour drops, that costs hundreds of dollars to travel plus the value of the days taken. That's very expensive. I've done and enjoyed it, but it comes at a steep cost.
They love their small markets, I get that. They like to rattle off from the stage all the small cities they have played over the years..
But that brings winners and losers. If you live among the masses, a fair face value ticket without spending huge amounts of money is not a realistic occurence.
you can't be freaking serious when you say this, there is nowhere they cater more to than large cities since 2008.
Oh, come on, just 2 years ago they played the downright miniscule markets of Seattle, Chicago, and Boston. No, wait, that's not right... Surely, they played small venues, right? Hmmm...
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I can't ever recall hearing them "rattle off from the stage all the small cities they've played over the years" even once, let alone enough times for me to think that they like doing it.
The only thing I can think of even remotely close would be Ed saying a bunch of small Mass cities that he knows before Small Town in Boston in 2010. At most he'll talk about smaller venues they've played over the years in that particular city/state.
Hell no. I would rather miss 20 shows because of bad luck and great prices than be forced to pay 500 to get in the building.
To about a quarter of the country there never is such a thing as great prices for a majority of the fans.
Either you pay to travel, pay the scalpers, or pay front row prices to sit on the ceiling. Or win a lottery once a decade if you're lucky.
If you play the lottery right, you win well more often than once a decade. If you are insistent on only hitting shows in NYC, that's the chance you take.
The context is great prices.
Even if I had the availability to take a few days to travel whenever a tour drops, that costs hundreds of dollars to travel plus the value of the days taken. That's very expensive. I've done and enjoyed it, but it comes at a steep cost.
They love their small markets, I get that. They like to rattle off from the stage all the small cities they have played over the years..
But that brings winners and losers. If you live among the masses, a fair face value ticket without spending huge amounts of money is not a realistic occurence.
Since they never come to Louisville KY, my only choice to travel to see them. That's the fact for a lot of folks.
Comparatively the most shows NY ever got was 0.3 This tour is a rounding error lower at 0.1
But they always round down to zero shows unless they play 5 here. Being ten times the size as the average city they play in, it's a fact of life the first 30 years of their career.
But my point was low cost. In this region that almost never happens.
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To about a quarter of the country there never is such a thing as great prices for a majority of the fans.
Either you pay to travel, pay the scalpers, or pay front row prices to sit on the ceiling. Or win a lottery once a decade if you're lucky.
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The context is great prices.
Even if I had the availability to take a few days to travel whenever a tour drops, that costs hundreds of dollars to travel plus the value of the days taken. That's very expensive. I've done and enjoyed it, but it comes at a steep cost.
They love their small markets, I get that. They like to rattle off from the stage all the small cities they have played over the years..
But that brings winners and losers. If you live among the masses, a fair face value ticket without spending huge amounts of money is not a realistic occurence.
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Madrid 2018
Werchter 2022
London 1 2022
London 2 2022
Krakow 2022
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I can't ever recall hearing them "rattle off from the stage all the small cities they've played over the years" even once, let alone enough times for me to think that they like doing it.
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VERY GRATEFUL AND FAITHFUL!
Oh, come on, just 2 years ago they played the downright miniscule markets of Seattle, Chicago, and Boston. No, wait, that's not right... Surely, they played small venues, right? Hmmm...
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He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
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At most he'll talk about smaller venues they've played over the years in that particular city/state.
Comparatively the most shows NY ever got was 0.3 This tour is a rounding error lower at 0.1
But they always round down to zero shows unless they play 5 here. Being ten times the size as the average city they play in, it's a fact of life the first 30 years of their career.
But my point was low cost. In this region that almost never happens.