Shawn Smith website!

English DashEnglish Dash Posts: 38
edited November 2009 in Other Music
Really looking forward to Shawn Smiths new website and Satchel's new album. 8-)
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  • HeavyHandsHeavyHands Posts: 2,130
    I was a little surprised to read that Satchel would be re-forming, but I'm really looking forward to hear what they're going to put out. Their albums are often sorely overlooked. A much moodier side of Brad, you know?

    Unfortunately, recognizing Shawn Smith and Co's keen eye for writing a good pop song has never been a strength of the general public. He put out no less than six albums between 1993 (Brad's first ) and 1997 (the second Pigeonhed album) and the only thing I ever heard played on a radio (or otherwise) was that Lo-Fi Allstars remix of Battle Flag. Six albums worth of material.
    "A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,991
    HeavyHands wrote:
    I was a little surprised to read that Satchel would be re-forming, but I'm really looking forward to hear what they're going to put out. Their albums are often sorely overlooked. A much moodier side of Brad, you know?

    Unfortunately, recognizing Shawn Smith and Co's keen eye for writing a good pop song has never been a strength of the general public. He put out no less than six albums between 1993 (Brad's first ) and 1997 (the second Pigeonhed album) and the only thing I ever heard played on a radio (or otherwise) was that Lo-Fi Allstars remix of Battle Flag. Six albums worth of material.
    fuck the radio- the guy writes some killer songs
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  • Killer songs, no kidding. I was also surprised at Satchels return but I am in great anticipation of this new stuff.
    Thought The Family was an awesome album from them. Shawns Diamond Hand lp was great too but saying that I still find Shawn a challenging listen as he has a strange songwriting and vocal style which some of my friends don't quite get, but I love it so fuck it!
  • Hey guys - I've posted an All Hail the Crown jam session on the main page of the site...ENJOY!
    <a href="http://www.shawnsmithsinger.com">Shawn Smith</a> / <a href="http://www.thebandbrad.com">Brad</a&gt; / <a href="http://www.allhailthecrown.com">All Hail the Crown</a> / <a href="http://www.satchelpartnership.com">Satchel</a&gt;

    (Shawn Smith's official website, but not Thee Shawn Smith)
  • ChrisChris Posts: 116
    Loved Satchel and Brad. and also SS work with Greg Dulli. Where is the best place to start with solo stuff?
  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,280
    When's the new satchel album coming out?
  • Chris wrote:
    Loved Satchel and Brad. and also SS work with Greg Dulli. Where is the best place to start with solo stuff?

    You can listen to his 3 studio albums right here!
    http://www.entertonement.com/shawnsmith

    I prefer Shield of Thorns and Diamond Hand myself.
    mr bungle wrote:
    When's the new satchel album coming out?

    Should be soon......I'll definitely keep you posted!
    <a href="http://www.shawnsmithsinger.com">Shawn Smith</a> / <a href="http://www.thebandbrad.com">Brad</a&gt; / <a href="http://www.allhailthecrown.com">All Hail the Crown</a> / <a href="http://www.satchelpartnership.com">Satchel</a&gt;

    (Shawn Smith's official website, but not Thee Shawn Smith)
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,208
    HeavyHands wrote:
    I was a little surprised to read that Satchel would be re-forming, but I'm really looking forward to hear what they're going to put out. Their albums are often sorely overlooked. A much moodier side of Brad, you know?

    Unfortunately, recognizing Shawn Smith and Co's keen eye for writing a good pop song has never been a strength of the general public. He put out no less than six albums between 1993 (Brad's first ) and 1997 (the second Pigeonhed album) and the only thing I ever heard played on a radio (or otherwise) was that Lo-Fi Allstars remix of Battle Flag. Six albums worth of material.

    interesting. i hope it's more like the first satchel album. i like brad and satchel, but sometimes they move a little too close to really boring/cheesy soft rock... like daniel powter or whoever sang that superman song. that first satchel album is awesome though.. tripped out, groovy, soulful, funky. they're much better when they've got some edge. the piano soft rock is best confined to a few tunes at best.
  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,280
    Chris wrote:
    Loved Satchel and Brad. and also SS work with Greg Dulli. Where is the best place to start with solo stuff?

    You can listen to his 3 studio albums right here!
    http://www.entertonement.com/shawnsmith

    I prefer Shield of Thorns and Diamond Hand myself.
    mr bungle wrote:
    When's the new satchel album coming out?

    Should be soon......I'll definitely keep you posted!
    Please do!
  • sometimes they move a little too close to really boring/cheesy soft rock... like daniel powter or whoever sang that superman song.

    I disagree on many levels, perhaps with the exception of maybe one or two softer singles, like Day Brings or Shinin', though again I think there are many differences. That said, I think you're referring to Powter's cover of The Cure's Just Like Heaven.
    <a href="http://www.shawnsmithsinger.com">Shawn Smith</a> / <a href="http://www.thebandbrad.com">Brad</a&gt; / <a href="http://www.allhailthecrown.com">All Hail the Crown</a> / <a href="http://www.satchelpartnership.com">Satchel</a&gt;

    (Shawn Smith's official website, but not Thee Shawn Smith)
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 28,991
    sometimes they move a little too close to really boring/cheesy soft rock... like daniel powter or whoever sang that superman song.

    I disagree on many levels, perhaps with the exception of maybe one or two softer singles, like Day Brings or Shinin', though again I think there are many differences. That said, I think you're referring to Powter's cover of The Cure's Just Like Heaven.
    I thought he was talking about that awful 3 Doors Down song
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
  • HeavyHandsHeavyHands Posts: 2,130
    i hope it's more like the first satchel album... tripped out, groovy, soulful, funky. they're much better when they've got some edge. the piano soft rock is best confined to a few tunes at best.

    That first one is really brilliant. They managed to cover a lot of ground, show off some serious talent, and sound like no one else. It was a great first effort. I was really expecting The Family to be a little harder edged than it was after EDC, but because of the quality of songwriting and cohesiveness of the album I wasn't at all disappointed.
    i like brad and satchel, but sometimes they move a little too close to really boring/cheesy soft rock...

    They definitely changed tones after EDC. I'm not sure if it had to do more with the departure of Cory Kane or the emergence of of Shawn Smith's writing prowess. My guess would be that it was the latter since it's evident on Smiths other, later catalogue that many of the songs on The Family bare strong resemblance to his later work, both solo and with others.

    I really don't mind the lighter stuff though. Fact (to me) is, I don't think there was anyone else writing/singing with the heart and talented sense of melody that Smith had at that time. The Day Brings is (again, to me) one of the most perfectly crafted pop songs I've ever heard. Concise with brilliantly sweet melodies. Not too long or short nor over/under-produced. As is Buttercup, Suffering, Isn't That Right, Criminal Justice, Sheepish, and Brothers & Sisters. There are legions of songwriters in the world who should be learning from this guy.

    Also, criminally overlooked is Walk In Freedom from the Strange Days soundtrack. If you haven't heard it, it's heavily influenced by EDC in terms of how heavy it is. Dark and atmospheric. Awesome.
    "A lot more people are capable of being big out there that just don't give themselves a chance." -Stone Gossard
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    My favorite Seattle singer. Gone too soon. Soar like an eagle, Shawn. 
    I saw him many, many times over the years with Satchel, Pigeonhed, Brad, solo, with Greg Dulli, at various tributes and celebrations. He was always kind, happy to sit and talk at the bar, etc... Just a beautiful soul. I'll miss him, but his music lives on. I've listened to little else this past week.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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