Can PJ make the SECOND half of the floor GA?

nycrats · August 2018

seems like that would end a lot of the GA nonsense and hysteria
people can still choose ga and be 30 -40 rows back, have lots of people flowing around, dance without a seat restriction
if a ga environment creates a lot of “show energy” it could be better used further back
if ga allows for more tickets to be in fan’s hands this still allows that
original members get something back for their good 10c numbers
there would be a lot less hostility because people won’t lineup for 48 hours and feel the need to protect like crazy

i have a poor number but it makes sense it seems

MayDay10 · August 2018

Nobody would go for that option. Back of floor is not a good location, unless you are over 6 foot 3.

For a number of reasons, I would like either straight full on reserved... or the band's management to take control and better structure the queuing, line, and even the ga ticket distribution/lottery

tino_11 · August 2018

Those who want to get caught up in the 'GA nonsense and hysteria' choose to do so by going for rail.
Most of the time I go in for doors opening and I can get to within 10-12 people from the front. A great spot for atmosphere and close to the band. Full reserved seats would not give that opportunity to the majority of fans.

Also, these are rock shows, who wants to get stuck behind a seat?

drakeheuer14 · August 2018

Long live GA in the front. Its cool that they give back to fans that have been around for so long with reserved seating priority by #, but thats why GA is nice because it can give so many more people the opportunity to be close.

pjsteelerfan · August 2018

They switch to the Springsteen method of a random number draw to start the line 30 minutes or an hour before the doors open, and most of this GA rail nonsense goes away.

release00 · August 2018

OP, I had this thought run through my mind while at the Chicago shows.

I was was thinking they should do two GA sections. Divided into the front and back. No one I saw in the reserved field seats were sitting anyway so why take up space with chairs.

release00 · August 2018

You also wouldn’t have to deal with the usher interrupting your vibe every 5 minutes by checking your ticket stub and everyone around you ie chichago wrigley this past weekend

leep75 · August 2018

release00 said:

You also wouldn’t have to deal with the usher interrupting your vibe every 5 minutes by checking your ticket stub and everyone around you ie chichago wrigley this past weekend

I was in the field section w/seats at both Wrigley shows and I chose them for a reason. I like the option of sitting if/when the need arises (I didn't either night, but I did have the option). It's also nice to have a spot to sit before the show starts, PLUS as a fan pushing 50, I don't want/need to jump around like a crazy person (I did enough of that in my teens/20s and even 30s) nor do I want people jumping around into me or my wife. It's nice to have the assigned seat/area. I enjoy the show(s) even though I'm not pogo-ing, thrashing my head and invading others space.

nycrats · August 2018

30 rows back is still a great spot (it’s where all the senior tc members wore for Wrigley) and the 6ft 3 argument doesn’t make sense. There’s a divide between the front section that actually creates a field of vision. If you’re in the front and someone is tall in front of you they block 90 percent of your stage field of vision. If you’re back 30 rows that number becomes 10 percent

PJ_Soul · August 2018

MayDay10 said:

Nobody would go for that option. Back of floor is not a good location, unless you are over 6 foot 3.

For a number of reasons, I would like either straight full on reserved... or the band's management to take control and better structure the queuing, line, and even the ga ticket distribution/lottery

It being GA or seats at the back half of the floor wouldn't impact people's ability to see, would it? Seats behind GA are even worse IMO. You don't even have the option of moving around for a better view when there are tall people in front of you.
I actually think all bands should just make their stages a couple feet taller - that would help with the view from further back on the floor. Yes, it would also increase the angle at the front, but it wouldn't make so much of a difference that it would screw over those in the front.

Go Beavers · August 2018

The GA nonsense and hysteria is being overstated. Sure, there were some jerks, but changning/getting rid of GA won’t solve it.

PJ_Soul · August 2018

Go Beavers said:

The GA nonsense and hysteria is being overstated. Sure, there were some jerks, but changning/getting rid of GA won’t solve it.

All the calls for getting rid of GA seem like the least rock and roll thing ever, lol.

smarchee · August 2018

PJ_Soul said:

MayDay10 said:

Nobody would go for that option. Back of floor is not a good location, unless you are over 6 foot 3.

For a number of reasons, I would like either straight full on reserved... or the band's management to take control and better structure the queuing, line, and even the ga ticket distribution/lottery

It being GA or seats at the back half of the floor wouldn't impact people's ability to see, would it? Seats behind GA are even worse IMO. You don't even have the option of moving around for a better view when there are tall people in front of you.
I actually think all bands should just make their stages a couple feet taller - that would help with the view from further back on the floor. Yes, it would also increase the angle at the front, but it wouldn't make so much of a difference that it would screw over those in the front.

no sympathy for the rail rats

PJ_Soul · August 2018

smarchee said:

PJ_Soul said:

MayDay10 said:

Nobody would go for that option. Back of floor is not a good location, unless you are over 6 foot 3.

For a number of reasons, I would like either straight full on reserved... or the band's management to take control and better structure the queuing, line, and even the ga ticket distribution/lottery

It being GA or seats at the back half of the floor wouldn't impact people's ability to see, would it? Seats behind GA are even worse IMO. You don't even have the option of moving around for a better view when there are tall people in front of you.
I actually think all bands should just make their stages a couple feet taller - that would help with the view from further back on the floor. Yes, it would also increase the angle at the front, but it wouldn't make so much of a difference that it would screw over those in the front.

no sympathy for the rail rats

Hey, if they can live on a sidewalk for 2 days and then go to a show, I'm sure they can crane their necks a little more too.

drakeheuer14 · August 2018

Go Beavers said:

The GA nonsense and hysteria is being overstated. Sure, there were some jerks, but changning/getting rid of GA won’t solve it.

PJ-Cubs · August 2018

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

The GA nonsense and hysteria is being overstated. Sure, there were some jerks, but changning/getting rid of GA won’t solve it.

All the calls for getting rid of GA seem like the least rock and roll thing ever, lol.

People camping out for hours to buy socks and posters is even less rock and roll.

buck502000 · August 2018

leep75 said:

release00 said:

You also wouldn’t have to deal with the usher interrupting your vibe every 5 minutes by checking your ticket stub and everyone around you ie chichago wrigley this past weekend

I was in the field section w/seats at both Wrigley shows and I chose them for a reason. I like the option of sitting if/when the need arises (I didn't either night, but I did have the option). It's also nice to have a spot to sit before the show starts, PLUS as a fan pushing 50, I don't want/need to jump around like a crazy person (I did enough of that in my teens/20s and even 30s) nor do I want people jumping around into me or my wife. It's nice to have the assigned seat/area. I enjoy the show(s) even though I'm not pogo-ing, thrashing my head and invading others space.

I am looking forward to these kind of seats in the future

svenhoek · August 2018

I don't think I would go for this. I've been in GA and loved it, but one of my favorite shows ever was Greenville 2016 and I had front row floor seats right behind GA. Great view of the stage and a lot of fun all around! I see the need to have both options personally.

PJ_Soul · August 2018

PJ-Cubs said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

The GA nonsense and hysteria is being overstated. Sure, there were some jerks, but changning/getting rid of GA won’t solve it.

All the calls for getting rid of GA seem like the least rock and roll thing ever, lol.

People camping out for hours to buy socks and posters is even less rock and roll.

Ya, maybe you're right, lol.

Bob Mayo on the keyboards Bob · August 2018

Everyone would just cram into the first half and then it would look empty!

Dug1200 · August 2018

Saturday at Wrigley was one of the best GA experiences I had at a show. There was ample room. We wern't all over each other. Mike's side 20 back or so

JH431 · August 2018

I don't know if this is a reasonable option but I think they need to have both GA and seats up close to the stage. The best seats I've ever had were 4th row, no GA pit, way back in 2003! Granted it was not a high demand show (Lexington, KY) but still. The last two shows I've been at including Monday's I had first row seats. STL's in 2014 were pretty close to the stage but way off to the side, while my Wrigley seats felt really far away behind that GA pit. I totally get the appeal of GA but not everyone wants to go that route. Fans who've been in the club a really long time but don't want to jostle in GA should get a chance to be close to the stage too.

cmalisze · August 2018

pjsteelerfan said:

They switch to the Springsteen method of a random number draw to start the line 30 minutes or an hour before the doors open, and most of this GA rail nonsense goes away.

Agreed. Meet 3 hrs prior to show at a designated location. Do a raffle old school Ticketmaster style. People then go in waves of 25 or 50 every 5 or 10 min.

Gdeady25 · August 2018

cmalisze said:

pjsteelerfan said:

They switch to the Springsteen method of a random number draw to start the line 30 minutes or an hour before the doors open, and most of this GA rail nonsense goes away.

Agreed. Meet 3 hrs prior to show at a designated location. Do a raffle old school Ticketmaster style. People then go in waves of 25 or 50 every 5 or 10 min.

This would suck. Part of the reason PJ GA is so fun is getting to know the people in line with you and hanging out with them during the show. With a lottery it also sounds like you’re either going in at different times than your friends or sacrificing your spot, which also sucks. How about people who want to be in front put in the time in line, and PJ just adds a few more reserved shows to the next tour?

pjl44 · August 2018

Make the left half of the floor GA and the right half reserved. That would be weird as shit but let's mix it up.

pjl44 · August 2018

I think some accommodations need to be made if there is going to be a "no lineup before" rule again. That's just inviting chaos. If the city/venue don't mind people camping, then have at it.

mcgruff10 · August 2018

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

The GA nonsense and hysteria is being overstated. Sure, there were some jerks, but changning/getting rid of GA won’t solve it.

All the calls for getting rid of GA seem like the least rock and roll thing ever, lol.

It was pretty damn rock n roll from 98-2011 with reserved seating.

Spiritual_Chaos · August 2018

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

The GA nonsense and hysteria is being overstated. Sure, there were some jerks, but changning/getting rid of GA won’t solve it.

All the calls for getting rid of GA seem like the least rock and roll thing ever, lol.

It was pretty damn rock n roll from 98-2011 with reserved seating.

"pretty damn" is relative ofc. But my guess is,they weren't as rock n roll as other places in the world.
We have all seen the wake that is the US PJ crowd on the concert DVD's

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pjl44 · August 2018

Ah, the old days of the board where all the angst that has been channeled to merch was reserved for whether people up front were rocking out hard enough. Anything short of a full Baptist revival meant days of scolding and finger wagging. Good times.

mcgruff10 · August 2018

Spiritual_Chaos said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Go Beavers said:

The GA nonsense and hysteria is being overstated. Sure, there were some jerks, but changning/getting rid of GA won’t solve it.

All the calls for getting rid of GA seem like the least rock and roll thing ever, lol.

It was pretty damn rock n roll from 98-2011 with reserved seating.

"pretty damn" is relative ofc. But my guess is,they weren't as rock n roll as other places in the world.
We have all seen the wake that is the US PJ crowd on the concert DVD's

I d take any of these reserved shows that I went to and put them up against any crowds in the world:
night 2 msg 98
spectrum 03
msg 1 03
philly 3/4, 09
msg 2 10
hartford 10
toronto night 1, 11
fenway 2, 2016

Can PJ make the SECOND half of the floor GA?

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