TEN or NO CODE?

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  • Pearl34JamPearl34Jam TNPosts: 1,074
    Pearl jam - Ten
    Pearl Jam wouldn't be on the map if it weren't for Ten.
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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,933
    the overuse of reverb on Ten makes me not love listening to it. But all of them are fantastic songs and amazing live, so it's a tough choice.
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of ChicagoPosts: 4,129
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    I owe it all to Ten, but No Code is my Soul Mate as an Album
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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capitalPosts: 2,553
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    No Code was the easy choice for me; I consider it their masterpiece and their first "mature" work.
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 3,809
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    Take out the the impact Ten had on getting into the band and on the industry. Album vs album No Code is the superior record IMO.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,999
    edited August 2016
    Pearl jam - Ten
    If I were to rank the albums right now I'm not sure No Code is even in my PJ Top 5. That's not a shot at No Code. Rather it's a compliment to how good the catalog is overall. Ten on the other hand is an all-time classic.
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  • rival.rival. ChicagoPosts: 7,776
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    incredible this is even a contest.
  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan MarylandPosts: 9,584
    Pearl jam - Ten
    rival. said:

    incredible this is even a contest.

    I don't find it surprising.
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  • The Camaros HoodThe Camaros Hood Boston, MAPosts: 186
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    No Code is their Magnum Opus in my opinion. This is where a lot of people got off the bus and the faithful powered forward. Key moment in the band's history and most diverse album they put out.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,999
    Pearl jam - Ten

    No Code is their Magnum Opus in my opinion. This is where a lot of people got off the bus and the faithful powered forward. Key moment in the band's history and most diverse album they put out.

    Never really understood why this is seen as a positive.

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  • rival.rival. ChicagoPosts: 7,776
    Pearl Jam - No Code

    Pearl Jam wouldn't be on the map if it weren't for Ten.

    looking at pearl jam's catalogue, without a doubt, ten has aged the worst out of all the albums released. ten put them on the map, sure... but VS to me was the first PEARL JAM album and proved they were the real deal. VS followed by vitalogy propelled them out of that mother love bone sound and turned them into the biggest band in the world.
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MOPosts: 2,797
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    Love the diversity of this album
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 21,164
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    The reason for choosing No Code was the build up and anticipation of its release. I'd heard Lukin debuted on monkey wrench radio so I couldn't wait to get this album.

    I was doing the fisherman thing in Alaska so my brother and sister mailed this out to Dutch Harbor for me. I listened to this album everyday out there.

    Great album.
  • ZodZod Posts: 6,334
    I think my unbiased answer is Ten, but my biased answer is No Code. I generally lean away from listening to Ten because I've heard many of the songs too many times. If a radio station plays PJ it's usually Even Flow, Black, Alive or Jeremy. I think I've listening to some of the songs off Ten to much to truly enjoy the album front to back. I don't have that issue with No Code :)
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 21,164
    Pearl Jam - No Code

    I can't tell you the last time I listened to Ten front to back.

    I can, April 29th 2016...
  • wgwg Posts: 407
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    No Code...
    but how can you pick. It changes all the time.
    Vitalogy/No Code/ Yield are constantly rotating. This weekend i listened to the entire discography chronologically from Ten to Lightning Bolt (including Lost Dogs) on vinyl through my Grado Headphones (minus Binaural and Riot Act)... it was fucking awesome. No Code REALLY stuck out for me. Love the lyrics and the feeling this album creates. Such a good ebb and flow. All time classic, no doubt.
  • RiotZactRiotZact Posts: 5,035
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    JimmyV said:

    No Code is their Magnum Opus in my opinion. This is where a lot of people got off the bus and the faithful powered forward. Key moment in the band's history and most diverse album they put out.

    Never really understood why this is seen as a positive.

    Because the band probably couldn't handle being in the mainstream much longer, they probably would have broke up or took a long break. If No Code was another Vs. or Vitology in terms of popularity, I really don't think we would be seeing all these amazing shows. We'd probably be lucky to get greatest hits reunion tours.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,999
    Pearl jam - Ten
    Ten
    Vs
    Yield
    Vitalogy
    Pearl Jam
    No Code
    Lightning Bolt
    Binaural
    Riot Act
    Backspacer

    For me the top 3 and the bottom 3 never change. The middle 4 on the other hand are constantly changing. No Code could be as high as 4th or as low as 7th depending on the day.
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  • mattcozmattcoz ChicagoPosts: 1,273
    Depends on the day and my mood. Lately I've been more of a No Code guy.
  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 3,809
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    JimmyV said:

    No Code is their Magnum Opus in my opinion. This is where a lot of people got off the bus and the faithful powered forward. Key moment in the band's history and most diverse album they put out.

    Never really understood why this is seen as a positive.

    Because they pushed themselves musically and a lot of the flavor of the moment "fans" got the fuck out. Which made a lot of us very happy. I grew to hate Jeremy because of amount of airplay it was getting.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,999
    Pearl jam - Ten

    JimmyV said:

    No Code is their Magnum Opus in my opinion. This is where a lot of people got off the bus and the faithful powered forward. Key moment in the band's history and most diverse album they put out.

    Never really understood why this is seen as a positive.

    Because they pushed themselves musically and a lot of the flavor of the moment "fans" got the fuck out. Which made a lot of us very happy. I grew to hate Jeremy because of amount of airplay it was getting.
    I understand that is the narrative but I've never really bought into it. It's always felt a little like revisionist history designed to explain away a drop in the band's popularity. Fans are fans. I've never been happy because there are less people who like something that I like. Pearl Jam being played less on the radio only meant that Creed and Nickelback were being played more. None of this is a positive to me.
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  • RH658469RH658469 NKYPosts: 17
    Pearl jam - Ten
    It's interesting when people say Facelift, Ten, Nevermind, Badmotorfinger, etc. are too commercial. Albums like those kind of redefined what was commercially viable. (slight pause to reminisce is what a great time that really was for album releases) They definitely set the tone for about a decade. Radio / Video air time drove these things mainstream and certain tracks did get abused. (thanks MTV & Clear Channel) But these albums were far from commercial formulas when they were developed.

    Between Code and Ten, it's Ten all day every day for me. Original or remix. But that's not saying Code is a POS. It's certainly in my top 4 PJ albums, but slots 2-4 are a bit fluid based on my mood. I have also started just putting the entire band on random play lately because it's kind of interesting to hear the differences between each album right next to one another. That has had the affect of making me listen to each song much differently because of the lack of expectation/anticipation for the known next track.
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MOPosts: 2,797
    edited August 2016
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    RH658469 said:

    It's interesting when people say Facelift, Ten, Nevermind, Badmotorfinger, etc. are too commercial. Albums like those kind of redefined what was commercially viable. (slight pause to reminisce is what a great time that really was for album releases) They definitely set the tone for about a decade. Radio / Video air time drove these things mainstream and certain tracks did get abused. (thanks MTV & Clear Channel) But these albums were far from commercial formulas when they were developed.

    Between Code and Ten, it's Ten all day every day for me. Original or remix. But that's not saying Code is a POS. It's certainly in my top 4 PJ albums, but slots 2-4 are a bit fluid based on my mood. I have also started just putting the entire band on random play lately because it's kind of interesting to hear the differences between each album right next to one another. That has had the affect of making me listen to each song much differently because of the lack of expectation/anticipation for the known next track.

    Those albums help shut the door on Hair Bands and I will be forever grateful for this new genre of music that came out especially Pearl Jam and AIC

    As far as my love for No Code it was a simple ride or get off the bus album and a lot of people got off the bus because they wanted the same sounding albums as TEN and VS...just like humans we need to evolve and so do bands when it comes to music and No Code is the one album that I have never put on retirement when it came to rotation because it has a song for every mood

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,946
    Pearl jam - Ten
    dades said:

    Impossible for me to pick. Ten is where it started, No Code is along with Yield in my opinion are the... for want of a better phrase 'best flowing' albums they have done. But without Ten there would be no No Code, so................?

    True. But without No Code, there would probably be no PJ after 1997 or so.

    Tough Call. I picked Ten but it's close.
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  • JmeiiiJmeiii Posts: 94
    Pearl jam - Ten
    This is a really difficult choice. However, I'm going to have to go with Ten. I remember hearing this back in '91 and, well, you know the rest of the story.
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 3,809
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    JimmyV said:

    JimmyV said:

    No Code is their Magnum Opus in my opinion. This is where a lot of people got off the bus and the faithful powered forward. Key moment in the band's history and most diverse album they put out.

    Never really understood why this is seen as a positive.

    Because they pushed themselves musically and a lot of the flavor of the moment "fans" got the fuck out. Which made a lot of us very happy. I grew to hate Jeremy because of amount of airplay it was getting.
    I understand that is the narrative but I've never really bought into it. It's always felt a little like revisionist history designed to explain away a drop in the band's popularity. Fans are fans. I've never been happy because there are less people who like something that I like. Pearl Jam being played less on the radio only meant that Creed and Nickelback were being played more. None of this is a positive to me.
    I completely understand that point of view. Im always a little torn about the "commercialized" debate but I did tend to get sick of the meatheads that liked PJ back then. No Code was just so "fresh" for me. The music, packaging, artwork...everything about it I loved. It made me love a band that I already thought was amazing even more.
  • RH658469RH658469 NKYPosts: 17
    Pearl jam - Ten
    OnWis97 said:


    True. But without No Code, there would probably be no PJ after 1997 or so.

    You can say the same thing for Mirror Ball. Maybe even more so than No Code.

    FWIW I like Young's writing, but never have been a fan of his singing. There are many tracks on that disc that I always say, usually aloud, that I wish Vedder did the vocals on this. But it has it's place/purpose and I keep it in my rotation.

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  • jp307677jp307677 BostonPosts: 412
    Pearl Jam - No Code
    JimmyV said:

    No Code is their Magnum Opus in my opinion. This is where a lot of people got off the bus and the faithful powered forward. Key moment in the band's history and most diverse album they put out.

    Never really understood why this is seen as a positive.

    We don't want those people that were on the bus before here. That was genius.

  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 15,305
    Pearl Jam - No Code

    I can't tell you the last time I listened to Ten front to back.

    I can, April 29th 2016...
    I would certainly not object to it live, but sadly I wasn't there. :bawling:
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