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PJ, please play OUTDOOR venues

kataractkidkataractkid Posts: 57
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Im from the Buffalo area, and although i'd take any show at this juncture,
I really hope they play Darien Lake instead of HSBC. I don't understand
why PJ plays arenas during warmer / summer months. May would qualify.
The sound is so much better at outdoor venues, imo. The atmosphere is better too.
I know from experience that HSBC and Air Canada Centre have sub-par sound.
They should be playing the Toronto show at the Molson Amp, outside. Of course
there are many factors that go into where PJ plays shows, but I think they should
be making a push to play outdoor venues May-September. Not just festivals, but
entire tours. The thought of the low sound levels and echoes inside HSBC doesn't
really have me that disappointed Buffalo was left off the initial tour announcement.

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    Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    This band is an arena band. I see your point, but those amphitheater shows....yuck.

    I'm all fore a big open field shows. Rest in Peace South Park Meadows
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    ragejoeragejoe Agawam Mass Posts: 1,411
    Ive seen them in both setting many times and although I love the tailgating and atmosphere of the outside show on a beautiful night i would prefer to see them in an ARENA 100 out of 100 times... Better sound, Louder Sound, more intensity... louder crowds... i battled with my opinion on this for a few tours in a row but Ive offcially become a PJ ARENA Guy! That being said... I CANT WAIT FOR FENWAY! haha
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    Vindicator22Vindicator22 Posts: 27
    Yeah I completely disagree.Arenas are way more intense with lighting and sound.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,878
    For me it comes down to convenience. Arenas are usually in town and easy to access. Amphitheaters tend to be out in the sticks.
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    Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    JimmyV said:

    For me it comes down to convenience. Arenas are usually in town and easy to access. Amphitheaters tend to be out in the sticks.

    Or in Camden, NJ
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,796
    Amphitheaters generally have poor sound quality compared to arenas. Source: my ears.
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    TL170678TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422
    Was hoping for Indy outside, but last time there was tornado warnings, I am sure they want to avoid delays as much as possible...I am lucky they are within 70 miles of me though, been since the last KY show they were.
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,023
    I prefer indoors, unless it is this place:

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    Leezestarr313Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,346
    I love PJ outdoor shows. Wuhlheide is awesome, and I would not mind at all seeing them in an American amphitheater open air again.

    Like at the GORGE 8-)
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    dottlesdottles Posts: 9,136
    They seem to prefer outdoor venues in Europe - come over next tour :)
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    Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,414
    Small arenas are great. Massive arenas suck. As for outdoor, the overall experience is usually better for a tailgate party. As long as there is no rain.
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    WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now! Posts: 4,957
    edited January 2016
    I've seen quite a few shows at SPAC, including PJ, and the sound there has always been fantastic.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,838
    I feel that the majority of the crowd/band noise is lost at an outdoor venue. I very much prefer an indoor venue.
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    MalrothMalroth broken down chevrolet Posts: 2,485
    open skies for me.
    The worst of times..they don't phase me,
    even if I look and act really crazy.
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,722
    Red Rocks show would be pretty freaking sweet!

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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,151
    mrk2 said:

    I prefer indoors, unless it is this place:

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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,185
    dimitrispearljam said:

    mrk2 said:

    I prefer indoors, unless it is this place:

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    wait.. is that??????????????

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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,151
    i prefer to see them live in the best acousric theater on the planet....
    nothing can bit this place

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    I way prefer indoor shows in all cases. Yes, the Gorge and Red Rocks are beautiful... but the sound is just better indoors, and youbdon't have to worry about being way too hot, too cold, or wet.
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    cartycarty Posts: 12
    I prefer outdoors , by far the sound is better, there is no echo and distortion like indoors venue.
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    dmbolpdmbolp ATL Posts: 1,187
    Yeah, I think we're confusing "good sound" with "loud sound". Arena designers only recently started taking sound into consideration; they are built for basketball/hockey. Amphitheaters are designed for sound. Yeah the sound system is a factor, but a well done outdoor show is going to have better sound than an indoor arena show
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,141
    Empty Glass said:

    This band is an arena band. I see your point, but those amphitheater shows....yuck.

    I'm all fore a big open field shows. Rest in Peace South Park Meadows

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    green_girlgreen_girl Posts: 931
    Yeah, that's a nice outdoor venue.

    kataractkid said:

    Im from the Buffalo area, and although i'd take any show at this juncture,
    I really hope they play Darien Lake instead of HSBC. I don't understand
    why PJ plays arenas during warmer / summer months. May would qualify.
    The sound is so much better at outdoor venues, imo. The atmosphere is better too.
    I know from experience that HSBC and Air Canada Centre have sub-par sound.
    They should be playing the Toronto show at the Molson Amp, outside. Of course
    there are many factors that go into where PJ plays shows, but I think they should
    be making a push to play outdoor venues May-September. Not just festivals, but
    entire tours. The thought of the low sound levels and echoes inside HSBC doesn't
    really have me that disappointed Buffalo was left off the initial tour announcement.

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