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Indifference152Indifference152 Posts: 305
edited December 2013 in The Porch
Out of a majority of the shows this tour, I'd say the Seattle 2nd encore is very weak. Last 3 kick out the jams, eruption, and Ledbetter? Wow....I'm sure it was a amazing show and all but damn...Main set was sick though. Thoughts?
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    I wasnt there, but i am not impressed by the setlist at all.

    I am sure it was a ton of fun though!
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    Pushin Forward BackPushin Forward Back Posts: 890
    It was a very predictable night aside from "let me sleep"
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    Indifference152Indifference152 Posts: 305
    Vancouver Portland San Diego and Phoenix are the shows to hear. Unreal. Based on setlists alone, Seattle near the bottom.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Vancouver Portland San Diego and Phoenix are the shows to hear. Unreal. Based on setlists alone, Seattle near the bottom.
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    Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    You give me 36 tunes at a show and I could give two poops what the show looks like on paper.

    It's never good to "arm chair quarterback" this bands live shows
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    stateoflove79stateoflove79 Posts: 2,845
    Empty Glass wrote:
    You give me 36 tunes at a show and I could give two poops what the show looks like on paper.

    It's never good to "arm chair quarterback" this bands live shows

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    Indifference152Indifference152 Posts: 305
    I made one point and one point only. BASED ON SETLISTS, IT'S NEAR THE BOTTOM.
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 40,878
    it wasn't mind blowing but it looked ok i guess. Kick out the jams w/ Kim Thayil Mark Arm & Steve Turner would have been cool too see. BUt yeah aside from Let Me Sleep in the set list just looked average. I guess I was expecting some more "rarities" like how they ended the 2010 tour at MSG.
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    HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,314
    As with all PJ shows, you can say, Wow, look what they played and Wow, look what they didn't play. That's why it is definitely necessary to see multiple shows when they tour. I went to 3 shows. BK1, BK2 and Baltimore. All three were great times. Combined, I heard some great songs, common and rare. Overall, great times had by all.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    HollisBrown wrote:
    As with all PJ shows, you can say, Wow, look what they played and Wow, look what they didn't play. That's why it is definitely necessary to see multiple shows when they tour. I went to 3 shows. BK1, BK2 and Baltimore. All three were great times. Combined, I heard some great songs, common and rare. Overall, great times had by all.
    True.
    The best show is often in the least expected place. Although I still think Brooklyn 2 is one of the best of this tour. Something about NYC that brings out the best in them!
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    HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,314
    Get_Right wrote:
    HollisBrown wrote:
    As with all PJ shows, you can say, Wow, look what they played and Wow, look what they didn't play. That's why it is definitely necessary to see multiple shows when they tour. I went to 3 shows. BK1, BK2 and Baltimore. All three were great times. Combined, I heard some great songs, common and rare. Overall, great times had by all.
    True.
    The best show is often in the least expected place. Although I still think Brooklyn 2 is one of the best of this tour. Something about NYC that brings out the best in them!
    Though I'd still like to know why they only had the 1 poster design for both shows. And a shitty one at that.
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    Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 12,479
    HollisBrown wrote:
    Though I'd still like to know why they only had the 1 poster design for both shows. And a shitty one at that.
    Indulging the artist. Pretty sure they just let most of them do their thing.
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    Dr.Teeth and the Electric MayhDr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,177
    too bad too because it looks like they crossed off of the earth and hold on.....yikes.....
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    scratched vinylscratched vinyl Posts: 742
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Out of a majority of the shows this tour, I'd say the Seattle 2nd encore is very weak. Last 3 kick out the jams, eruption, and Ledbetter? Wow....I'm sure it was a amazing show and all but damn...Main set was sick though. Thoughts?

    I wasn't there but I don't agree. It was long and pretty unique with some more rare and out of place tunes.
    I'd always prefer that to the "typical" second encore staples.
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    smanchac1smanchac1 Posts: 2,256
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Vancouver Portland San Diego and Phoenix are the shows to hear. Unreal. Based on setlists alone, Seattle near the bottom.

    Vancouver and Hartford were epic. Seattle was good, but personally Vancouver was much more fun for me!
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    SZ303389SZ303389 Posts: 453
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Out of a majority of the shows this tour, I'd say the Seattle 2nd encore is very weak. Last 3 kick out the jams, eruption, and Ledbetter? Wow....I'm sure it was a amazing show and all but damn...Main set was sick though. Thoughts?

    Portland and BC were awesome because the crowd demanded it...Seattle crowd, again, was pitiful.
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    PearlJammer623PearlJammer623 Posts: 189
    I was at the show. The band was uninspired by the lame seattle crowd. What a pathetic city.
    How they do not embrace the home town band like NJ does for bruce or even lame ass bon jovi.
    Ny for billy joel the list goes on....
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    Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    PearlJammer623 wrote:
    I was at the show. The band was uninspired by the lame seattle crowd. What a pathetic city.
    How they do not embrace the home town band like NJ does for bruce or even lame ass bon jovi.
    Ny for billy joel the list goes on....


    It's ok...Philly has accepted the band as their own ;)
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    curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,248
    Empty Glass wrote:

    It's ok...Philly has accepted the band as their own ;)

    True -- as has Hartford. :)
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    PearlJammer623PearlJammer623 Posts: 189
    As has Tampa,Florida....
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    rvmirror67rvmirror67 Posts: 37
    smanchac1 wrote:
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Vancouver Portland San Diego and Phoenix are the shows to hear. Unreal. Based on setlists alone, Seattle near the bottom.

    Vancouver and Hartford were epic. Seattle was good, but personally Vancouver was much more fun for me!

    I was up til 5am est waiting to see the breakdown of the show, and Ed congratulating you and Kelly! Can't wait to hear about your trip when you get home :)
    Enjoy Seattle!!! :mrgreen:

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    rvmirror67rvmirror67 Posts: 37
    Let's just roll with the entire East coast! I hope they come back this was SOON.

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    jvoorheesjvoorhees Langley, BC Posts: 199
    Yeah the Seattle show was a bit of a let down with the setlist... the crowd I thought at first was awesome! Very loud and then it just seem to die :( The Seattle show was super hyped up imo.... I went to both this show and Vancouver and gotta say I enjoyed the Vancouver one more... still was awesome to see em in Seattle and still thought it was a good concert... I mean its PJ :D
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    Yes WayYes Way Posts: 453
    I think Pearl Jam is walking a fine line right now playing a LOT of the hits and really long shows at the same time. In the end they "satisfy" (I use this term very loosely because they are amazing, after all) no one. For those of us who've seen them a ton, the opening chords for certain songs can be a bit of a letdown (God I'm trying not to sound spoiled because I swear to you I LOVED last night's show) simply because we've seen that song at 95% of the shows we've been to. Replacing a Betterman with an Insignificance from time to time would go a long way.

    But by playing 3 1/2 hours you're going to wear down the casual fan who you've tried to buoy with your 10 most popular songs. I've seen the casual fans lose interest right around mid 1st encore at all four shows I've been to.

    Listen, last night was incredible. Best Garden I've seen, and they played In My Tree straight. Let Me Sleep was so unexpected, obviously. However, I think that some of the energy that leaves the room can be attributed to the band trying to please everybody. I'm not saying they need to play insanely rare songs at every show. Just blend in some songs a little more and don't play 90% of the hits at every show. This band has shown that they can pull out anything at just about any time, so why not play these more:

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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,611
    2nd encores in general seem a bit stale and predictable across the board. Im not really sure how to "fix" it... or even if I would want to "fix" it.
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    jvoorheesjvoorhees Langley, BC Posts: 199
    smanchac1 wrote:
    Indifference152 wrote:
    Vancouver Portland San Diego and Phoenix are the shows to hear. Unreal. Based on setlists alone, Seattle near the bottom.

    Vancouver and Hartford were epic. Seattle was good, but personally Vancouver was much more fun for me!

    Couldn't agree with you more!!!!! I wasn't at Hartford but agree with you on the Vancouver show!!! :D
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