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The Importance Of you Attend A Concert With
johnmc1976
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Very important on who you attend a concert with. If you attend that is not quite the the PJ nut that you are(I am) you could miss out and have a less intense experience. Very touchy subject though because we want to include our significant others. Lets face it though do they really get why we have to be there(venue) hours prior and stay to the last note. I once missed my first chance at seein YB because the people I WAS WITH WERE READY TO GO AND JUST DIDNT Get It.
Anyonce else agree or disagree? Share your stories.
Anyonce else agree or disagree? Share your stories.
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He is not a fan and I spend the majority of the time getting mad at him . hahaha He was kind enough to go with me but next time we both agreed to let my brother go with me. It really sucks my husband and I have different tastes in music but I am trying to convert him slowly. :P
what do mean by side? no sides here . just honest truth. I think you should attend with someone who feels the same way you di in order to have best experience, but that's no always easy to do.
Could not disagree more. I took 6 newbies of which only 1 was what I could call a die hard like me (my 14 yo son ). I also went to 1 by myself and a couple with a 10C ticket buddy. All were tremendous. I think for people that worry about what other people are doing your point might be important (why would you be mad at him for not dancing and singing?).
One of the best experiences I had was PJ turning my 23 yo nephew from a casual to a big fan of theirs at Brooklyn 1. (I could go on, but that's an example of someone who wasn't as high on PJ as I was going in. As a matter of fact, he hadn't even heard of Chloe/Crown until I was bringing him up to speed on the history of the band earlier in the day - it's as if they planned it.)
If your point is you shouldn't bring someone who is just simply not going to enjoy themselves and have a closed mind about an experience - well, doesn't that pretty much go for anything in life? If your husband hates Italian food and you know he's going to grouse about the olive oil all night would you bring him to an Italian restaurant?
So, bottom line - it is just you. (I think that was the question you were really asking).
EDIT: I realize I was referring to 2 different posters in my rant.
You atend with a big group: You need to take everyone's interests into account or split up. (Festival setting).
You atend with a diehard: You are both trying to be at the rail and can go nuts during Blood. You can guess the song within the first 3 guitar notes (me) and the other diehard (my dad) is impressed/jealous.
You attend with a casual fan: They don't 'get' it, but they understand that you get it which brings up there enjoyment.
You attend by yourself: Make some new aquaintances/friends. Enjoy the experience with the crowd.
I have experienced all 4 scenarios and I will always choose anyone of them as opposed to not going.
2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
PJ has such a ton of songs so IMO it's hard for a casual fan to milk the show for all it's worth...think back to your first couple of shows' p*ss break songs and compare them to now (that's excluding if you have GA then there are no p*ss breaks!!)
That being said, if you love rock and roll, live PJ should destroy your brain...
Let the unconverted stay that way.
I don't like sharing
Care to explain your process? I'm looking to see about taking some newbies to Firefly this year and don't know if they could handle it.
2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
No way I take my wife. She went to a local show with me in '03 and was kind enough to agree on a Canadian vacation in '05. Love her to death but she's out for concerts.
For Baltimore I picked a person from the board to use my extra. It's a ton more fun to go to a show with a fellow PJ nutcase
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
"THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015
"Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
I think I'm going to give my wife a break from coming with me. She just likes to get out of the house I think, where I like to f'in rock hard.
I think that you are almost better off going alone (or with the lucky soul you decide to sell your other ticket too), then bringing a Ten/Vs. fan even if they are your spouse, family, or good friend.
It is not difficult at all (via this great forum) to find plenty of cool people who have the same viewpoint, and just meet up with a bunch of solo show goers. It's a great way to meet new people with common interests, who could very well end up being lifelong friends (it's good to have friends all over the country too).
I promised my two daughters they are next in line (ages 7 and 9 currently), but from now on, I'll be very careful with who I share the experience with, as the OP is right...it does effect your show if you let it...though I usually just do my own thing (dance, get a good close spot) regardless of who my 'date' is. I won't let someone else bring me down...and if they wanted to leave before the end, I'd have a laugh and go back to my business.
1998 (2) - East Lansing & Auburn Hills; 2000 (2) - Tampa & Noblesville; 2003 (2) - Lexington & Noblesville; 2006 (1) - Cincinnati; 2007 (1) - Chicago (Lollapalooza); 2008 (Ed in Milwaukee); 2009 (1) - Chicago; 2010 (1) - Noblesville; 2013 (3) - San Diego & Los Angeles I & II; 2016 (Temple of the Dog in Los Angeles); 2017 (Ed at Ohana in Dana Point);
2021 (3) - Dana Point I, II & III; 2022 (3) - San Diego & Los Angeles I & II; 2025 - Southern U.S. Tour Please!
My daughter & I both won the lottery for Dallas & OKC, so she took her boyfriend and I took my husband. My husband decided that he didn't want to do the back-to-back concerts, so I gave his Dallas ticket to my ex-sister-in-law, who lives in Texas. Both she & by daughter's boyfriend are fans but concert virgins. I couldn't talk my daughter into sitting with me instead of her boyfriend for either show (imagine that -- she chose the boyfriend over Mom!). It didn't detract from my enjoyment of either concert, but I honestly would have had a better time sharing those special moments (Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns!!!) with my daughter, who is as obsessed as I am.
I have a much better time when it's a fellow die hard like my buddy Eric, who flies up from Florida to CT for every tour. His mom tells everyone that she loves when PJ is touring the Northeast cause she know her son's coming to visit.
OKC was me looking after my husband and hoping he had a good time.
Lesson learned. Honey, I love you...but you have to stay home.
Dragged my husband to the first 4 shows I ever went to, but he doesn't understand why I didn't stop there. Shows 5-12 have all been solo - I either meet up with a PJ bud who is also at the show or make a new friend. Hoping that my seat mates in Seattle are as into the show as I am, but if not, fuckem.
Now to your point, I feel if you're going to bring someone into the circle, you have to choose carefully to avoid a buzzkill. I've never brought a girlfriend but I have brought friends who weren't really fans. This was the case for the Brooklyn shows and nothing made me happier than last week when I received an email from him saying that his wife finally put her foot down and made him turn off PJ radio. Apparently it was the only music he'd been playing since the show - every day, all day. He said "after seeing them live, I don't feel like I need to listen to any other band...ever. And she's going to have to accept that." Haha, I couldn't be more proud.
(for your first sentence)
(for your successfull casual to super fan conversion)
1998 (2) - East Lansing & Auburn Hills; 2000 (2) - Tampa & Noblesville; 2003 (2) - Lexington & Noblesville; 2006 (1) - Cincinnati; 2007 (1) - Chicago (Lollapalooza); 2008 (Ed in Milwaukee); 2009 (1) - Chicago; 2010 (1) - Noblesville; 2013 (3) - San Diego & Los Angeles I & II; 2016 (Temple of the Dog in Los Angeles); 2017 (Ed at Ohana in Dana Point);
2021 (3) - Dana Point I, II & III; 2022 (3) - San Diego & Los Angeles I & II; 2025 - Southern U.S. Tour Please!
Unread postby october22 » 26 Nov 2013 14:38
First off, I enjoy an OP who seems drunk. Thank you for that.
not drunk, but buzzing more than I realized. lol .
I'd go to a show with you
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
"THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015
"Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
It's all about WHO you choose to bring... I am a music nut. My very good friend, a die hard .. 25 shows in, etc. insisted on bringing me to the Montreal 2011 show.
I was a casual fan, but that was it. She brought me to the pre-party, I met some fantastic people, was welcomed into "your world" with open arms. We won the lottery and were sitting 9th row, dead centre. Before the first encore I was done. There was no turning back.
One of the amazing people I met at the pre-party insisted I had to go to my home town show, but I was broke. He gave me his pair for the price of one. So, I did the Ottawa show and again fell more in love! Since then I joined the 10c and did London, Wrigley, Buffalo, Brooklyn and am headed out west next week to do Vancouver!
I am ETERNALLY grateful to my friend for recognizing the jammer in me. I am hooked and couldn't be happier!
ALL THAT TO SAY.... Choose wisely, but definitely bring newbies!!! They will never forget who converted them
Agree! I have posted before but to me, there are 3 major things that affect the time I have at a show. The most important to me is:
a) location in the venue. If I am in the rafters, it doesn't matter how crazy the fans are, I will feel like I am not connecting with the band and am just watching them at home on a screen or listening to a bootleg.
Next for me is:
b) the setlist. A great set can help a ton! Songs I am not fond of or a poor flow can hinder the experience.
Third in terms of importance for me:
c) the people around you. If they are all rockin' out, then it helps. It help to be around fellow 10Clubbers and avid/enthusiastic fans. If everyone is sitting, it takes away from the experience. This includes who you decide to take with you!
To a lesser extent, another factor is:
d) the time I have leading up to/after the show. Is it a road trip? Is there a pre-party? Did I meet fellow fans etc. That can make the experience fun too.
So some combination of all of those factors are what determine where a show ranks for me . . . .
Montreal 10/04/00
Toronto 10/05/00
Toronto 06/28/03
Kitchener 09/11/05
Ottawa 09/16/05
Toronto 08/21/09
Toronto 09/11/11
Ottawa 09/14/11
Buffalo 10/12/13
Ottawa 05/08/16
Chicago 08/20/18
Ottawa 09/03/22
Nashville 09/16/22
So, who has the common sense?
Or, so I don't get a shoe thrown at me - who is more closed minded? Flip side of the same coin.
Perhaps if you didn't throw your panties up at Eddie, your husbands would have less of an issue.