Will I remain a proud 10c member?

goldzepp · July 2013

Maybe I haven't been a member the longest, maybe I haven't been listening to the band the longest, maybe I haven't been to the most shows, maybe I haven't been a part of the best shows, maybe I don't have the lowest number, maybe I wanted to go to several shows this tour, maybe I long for the PJ concert experience.......

None of it matters because I got a hot unlubrictaed shaft straight up my bum for all shows I tried for. Then I had to sit here like an ass trying to buy tickets on a shithole third party vendors' (which, the band themselves decided to bring to court at one point) website in hopes I would score something.

I got dicked, as I am sure many of you also did.

I'm not livid. I'm not tossing out colorful language or beating me computer into submission. I'm not ready to sell my first born or spare kidney to the highest bidder so I can get some decent seats on Stubhub.

I am disappointed.

I am feeling a bit betrayed by what is referred to as a fan club.

We support you and you failed us.

I am ashamed of you now.

Regretfully Yours,
10c Member xxxxxxx Whom Will (possibly) NOT be Renewing

jervin007 · July 2013

It seems like most seats bought through public onsale aren't fantastic. How do I interpret this? That the 10club did acquire the best seats for their fanclub members.

I'm not ashamed of the 10club at all if that's the case.

mr_perfect · July 2013

if youre 100k or over makes no difference to me...

dimitrispearljam · July 2013

i need a drink

mfc2006 · July 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i need a drink

Cheers, my friend!

Poncier · July 2013

goldzepp wrote:

I'm not tossing out colorful language

I beg to differ..

goldzepp wrote:

None of it matters because I got a hot unlubrictaed shaft straight up my bum for all shows I tried for. Then I had to sit here like an ass trying to buy tickets on a shithole third party vendors' (which, the band themselves decided to bring to court at one point) website in hopes I would score something.

I got dicked, as I am sure many of you also did.

Dr. Delight · July 2013

Smaller arenas.

10C gets their share.
Scalpers get their share
Band gets their share
+ High Demand

=

Not much left over for public sale.

pulling69 · July 2013

Another butt-hurt individual that I won't have to associate with as part of the 10C anymore? Good

MG79478 · July 2013

The lottery made people soft.

Some of us got tickets easily to every show we wanted this morning. Sweet karma!

whispering hands · July 2013

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i need a drink

My sister is having one for us both!! I am getting ready for work. She has said she wishes she coulda met you! Hahaha!! She a shoulda stayed with me!

Get_Right · July 2013

I dunno
seems like a lot of peeps got tixs to shows that are traditionally very difficult

were you expecting to get 4 tickets in the 100s for a weekend show?

dimitrispearljam · July 2013

whispering hands wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i need a drink

My sister is having one for us both!! I am getting ready for work. She has said she wishes she coulda met you! Hahaha!! She a shoulda stayed with me!

ole!!! :wave:

goldzepp · July 2013

Get_Right wrote:

I dunno
seems like a lot of peeps got tixs to shows that are traditionally very difficult

were you expecting to get 4 tickets in the 100s for a weekend show?

I wasn't expecting anything. I was hopeful I would at least get one of the four shows I tried for in the new sweepstakes style 10c ticketing. Following that epic fail, I was again hopeful for at least a pair of tickets to one of the aforementioned shows during the general sale.

However, judging by the responses I received so far it seems like I can just chaulk this round up to bad luck and some of you actually had some good experiences with the new system. So, I guess it's a good system and it should continue going forward?

pulling69 · July 2013

goldzepp wrote:

Get_Right wrote:

I dunno
seems like a lot of peeps got tixs to shows that are traditionally very difficult

were you expecting to get 4 tickets in the 100s for a weekend show?

I wasn't expecting anything. I was hopeful I would at least get one of the four shows I tried for in the new sweepstakes style 10c ticketing. Following that epic fail, I was again hopeful for at least a pair of tickets to one of the aforementioned shows during the general sale.

However, judging by the responses I received so far it seems like I can just chaulk this round up to bad luck and some of you actually had some good experiences with the new system. So, I guess it's a good system and it should continue going forward?

Why should you care, I thought you were leaving?

javis el errante · July 2013

I'm on the same side as the OP, low number, only four shows, and even worse, I had to wait 14 years for the band visit my country, they said they would come soon, and 6 years passed before they did, and when they came back this year I read about this new love for southamerica, and I wondered "if that's love, I wonder what is hate", and that didn't keep me from renewing, and I'm renewing still this year...

Anyway, it's a pity you feel that way, it's hard to see that a fellow 10C member who has the will and the means to go to a show can't do it, but I don't necessarily see it as if the band or the fan club failed anybody, that's an overstatement, moreover, during the past two years many people got upset for not getting tickets to a show, or couldn't purchased a limited quantity item, and at that time they said the wouldn't renew their membership, but they are still here, many of them, and they are still bitching for some reason or another.

Cosmo · July 2013

Why do people feel the need to publicly address their reasons to resign from the Fan Club? I mean, air your grievences to the actual Fan Club personel, rather than telling the Fan Club community? Because basically... I believe that 99.9% of the Fan Club members don't give a fuck about it. The only thing about a 'Dear John' letter to the Fan Club... and cc'd to the membership does is make you look like a drama queen.
...
And in many, if not most of the cases... the authors of these letters don't leave and renew their memberships.
...
When I'm done... no one will know. I will just be gone. The Band will have to do something catostrophic, such as appearing as regular characters on The Kardasians or Honey Boo-Boo or become judges on that shitpile 'American Idol' before I quit. and I won't draft a melodramatic fare thee well to all, because seriously, if you STAY after something like that... in my opinion, you need some inner reflection.
But, from where I am today... the Fan Club will probably disappear before I leave it.
...
Good luck, to y'all.

Get_Right · July 2013

goldzepp wrote:

I wasn't expecting anything. I was hopeful I would at least get one of the four shows I tried for in the new sweepstakes style 10c ticketing. Following that epic fail, I was again hopeful for at least a pair of tickets to one of the aforementioned shows during the general sale.

However, judging by the responses I received so far it seems like I can just chaulk this round up to bad luck and some of you actually had some good experiences with the new system. So, I guess it's a good system and it should continue going forward?

Make smart selections with your 10c choices (if your choices were GA brooklyn, GA worcester, GA hartford there is a good chance you will get nothing)
Patience and a little know how when using TM
Dont seek more than a pair, even go for a single for tough shows like brooklyn
Dont be picky about your seats

You would have gotten into the show you wanted if you followed these guidelines. Im sure of it.

goldzepp · July 2013

Cosmo wrote:

Why do people feel the need to publicly address their reasons to resign from the Fan Club? I mean, air your grievences to the actual Fan Club personel, rather than telling the Fan Club community? Because basically... I believe that 99.9% of the Fan Club members don't give a fuck about it. The only thing about a 'Dear John' letter to the Fan Club... and cc'd to the membership does is make you look like a drama queen.
...
And in many, if not most of the cases... the authors of these letters don't leave and renew their memberships.
...
When I'm done... no one will know. I will just be gone. The Band will have to do something catostrophic, such as appearing as regular characters on The Kardasians or Honey Boo-Boo or become judges on that shitpile 'American Idol' before I quit. and I won't draft a melodramatic fare thee well to all, because seriously, if you STAY after something like that... in my opinion, you need some inner reflection.
But, from where I am today... the Fan Club will probably disappear before I leave it.
...
Good luck, to y'all.

Hahaha, duly noted and well received.

Pjzepp67 · July 2013

Hang in there goldzepp, your time will come. Wrigley was my 1 and only attempt and I have only been a member since last Novemer...BOOOOYAH!!!...2 tix for me and my good lady and a brilliant 4 days in Chicago, so as with all lotteries it is just luck :corn:

CROJAM95 · July 2013

Cosmo hit the nail on the head

win some lose some....dont be a lil girl about it

goldzepp · July 2013

CROJAM95 wrote:

Cosmo hit the nail on the head

win some lose some....dont be a lil girl about it

He most certainly did.....

Apologies for the initial post reflecting too much frustration.....till next time....

slinger256 · July 2013

Is there anything we can say to talk you out of quitting? Actually.... LET the door hit you on the way out.

dimitrispearljam · July 2013

Cosmo wrote:

Why do people feel the need to publicly address their reasons to resign from the Fan Club? I mean, air your grievences to the actual Fan Club personel, rather than telling the Fan Club community? Because basically... I believe that 99.9% of the Fan Club members don't give a fuck about it. The only thing about a 'Dear John' letter to the Fan Club... and cc'd to the membership does is make you look like a drama queen.
...
And in many, if not most of the cases... the authors of these letters don't leave and renew their memberships.
...
When I'm done... no one will know. I will just be gone. The Band will have to do something catostrophic, such as appearing as regular characters on The Kardasians or Honey Boo-Boo or become judges on that shitpile 'American Idol' before I quit. and I won't draft a melodramatic fare thee well to all, because seriously, if you STAY after something like that... in my opinion, you need some inner reflection.
But, from where I am today... the Fan Club will probably disappear before I leave it.
...
Good luck, to y'all.

EPIC!

Last-12-Exit · July 2013

Later, see ya when I see ya.

StickmanJam · July 2013

CROJAM95 wrote:

Cosmo hit the nail on the head

win some lose some....dont be a lil girl about it

If "you win some, you lose some" is an accepted mindset around here, then what was wrong with the old system?

Seems a little hypocritical.

Ticket buying isn't supposed to be fair. I was fine getting shut out with the old system, at least I had a chance.

DURP · July 2013

This is what I don't understand. If you're not happy that's fine and yes it's okay to express your displeasure. But what I don't understand is why so many people go I'm done with being a member. Are you expecting the band to call you and beg you not to let your membership expire? Yeah getting shut out of tickets suck and I have had time to think about it. The new lottery is just like F5 only difference is you were physically at your computer pounding the F5 button into submission. F5 was a lottery it just wasn't called a lottery.

Sorry to hear you struck out that sucks. If you don't renew that is on you. But to throw it out there seems a bit dramatic.

Zod · July 2013

I generally blame the band and not the 10c.

Most of the problems are outside the 10c's control. Most venues of Arena/Stadium size have exclusive contracts with ticketing agencies (ticketmaster, livenation, or maybe regional one). Those ticket agencies have caps on how many tickets they will allow fan clubs to have. TM put a 10% of the venue rule in about 10 years ago. 10c used to get flexibility, but not so much anymore.

TM has all the power. You don't like it? play somewhere else? Except there is no where else. PJ barely pulled off that tour in '95 (and it fell apart) using non TM venues. I imagine a number of those venues now have monopoly run box offices.

For me it comes down to PJ not playing enough shows. There's considerable demand to see them live and the tours aren't big enough to alleviate it. You've got fans travelling from everywhere to see the small tours they do.

Foo Fighters (which I think are similiar in popularity) will tour for two years straight and they can still sell out show everywhere. How bad would there ticket demand be if they only did a 30 show tour every 3 or 4 years.... ouch!

CROJAM95 · July 2013

StickmanJam wrote:

CROJAM95 wrote:

Cosmo hit the nail on the head

win some lose some....dont be a lil girl about it

If "you win some, you lose some" is an accepted mindset around here, then what was wrong with the old system?

Seems a little hypocritical.

Ticket buying isn't supposed to be fair. I was fine getting shut out with the old system, at least I had a chance.

Ill gladly go back

I was like 32/33 or something b4....only missing out on THE VIC which was crazy hard.

I won 2/9 shows this time around (oakland, la2)............shutout from Brooklyn which sucks cause its my hometown show. Its what they decided to do, and you gotta roll with it. PJ tickets are important, but there are other means of getting them. Not worth getting sick over, Petitions or constructive criticism is fine....acting like an incoherent baby and threatening to WALK, NO ONE CARES.

Eraserhead · July 2013

It's not the TC's fault that the fans bought all the tickets!

Eraserhead · July 2013

Zod wrote:

Most of the problems are outside the 10c's control. Most venues of Arena/Stadium size have exclusive contracts with ticketing agencies (ticketmaster, livenation, or maybe regional one). Those ticket agencies have caps on how many tickets they will allow fan clubs to have. TM put a 10% of the venue rule in about 10 years ago. 10c used to get flexibility, but not so much anymore.

So a legit question: What does the venue/TM care if say TC had 100% of all the tickets? They'd still sell out the venues, right?

AzWicker · July 2013

Not sure people understand what a lottery is. Some win, some lose. Not everyone will win the chance to get tickets through the 10 club. Especially high interest shows. Some lucky bastards will get tickets to all their shows, some will get tickets to none. Most will have them scattered in between.

Lottery: A process or thing whose success or outcome is governed by chance...

...not a conspiracy of the New World Order (Which right now includes the Free Masons, the 10Club, Stone and Boom (...but not Mike), Ticketmaster, that thing Jay-Z and Beyonce belong to, and the Muslim Brotherhood) to extricate any possibilty you may have to attend a Pearl Jam concert... at face value.

Will I remain a proud 10c member?

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