I know people that won the lottery 3 times. Back to back nights actually. I think they just put people they want there, I don't think it's an actual lottery.
This thread is confusing. :oops: The OPP was talking about lottery as in 10club ticket sale lottery, right? Or was it lottery as it scoring lottery seats @ the show? Row 1, 2, 9, 10.
I know people that won the lottery 3 times. Back to back nights actually. I think they just put people they want there, I don't think it's an actual lottery.
They must be just lucky to win it three nights in a row..
I think once you win the lottery for the 1st, 2nd, 9th, and 10th your name should be scratched off....So, you can't win that win the lottery for the that row again....This is how I would do it...But, I am not running the 10c...There is no reason one person should win the front row more than once during a tour....It supposed to be a lottery for fans that have great fan club numbers....
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I have proof that is rigged...I seen it with my own two eyes...The ten club won't ever admit it that isn't totally randomed.....I don't give a crap if they select who they want up front...But, I thought this lottery was for fans that don't have so great of fan club numbers...A chance to get a ticket up front....Also, don't call it totally random...When it isn't..
Jeremy
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PM me the PROOF you've been ranting about! I'm still waiting.
There is clearly a recurring theme here. People who want a fair system want a lottery. People who want an advantage over other members and can give a rat's ass about fairness as long as they get their tickets don't.
On another note, I believe it was Kelly Curtis or Tim who said a lottery can't work for a full band tour because Pearl Jam has too many non US fans unlike Dave Matthews or Phish. Can someone please explain this? I believe non US fans are just as capable of entering a lottery as US fans. Payment methods are the same. Where's the problem?
In regards to the fairness of the Rows 1,2,9 and 10 lottery. I joined the fan club two years ago and attended my first show with fan club tix in KC last summer. To my surprise I "randomly" received row 10 tickets. I have bought very little merch and I don't know anyone affiliated with the 10 club or Pearl Jam. I am truly grateful for the seats and enjoyed my favorite PJ show experience. I had attended PJ shows prior to joining the club. This tells me that at least some of the seats are random.
There is clearly a recurring theme here. People who want a fair system want a lottery. People who want an advantage over other members and can give a rat's ass about fairness as long as they get their tickets don't.
Each person is supporting a system that serves their own best interest. It's too bad we can't all just be honest enough to admit that. There's no room on the moral high ground for people who are concerned about how others acquire concert tickets.
There is clearly a recurring theme here. People who want a fair system want a lottery. People who want an advantage over other members and can give a rat's ass about fairness as long as they get their tickets don't.
Each person is supporting a system that serves their own best interest. It's too bad we can't all just be honest enough to admit that. There's no room on the moral high ground for people who are concerned about how others acquire concert tickets.
Guess there's no moral high ground either for people who donate $ to fight hunger and are concerned about how others acquire food. It's all about me.
There is clearly a recurring theme here. People who want a fair system want a lottery. People who want an advantage over other members and can give a rat's ass about fairness as long as they get their tickets don't.
Each person is supporting a system that serves their own best interest. It's too bad we can't all just be honest enough to admit that. There's no room on the moral high ground for people who are concerned about how others acquire concert tickets.
Guess there's no moral high ground either for people who donate $ to fight hunger and are concerned about how others acquire food. It's all about me.
You're equating fighting hunger to acquiring concert tickets. That's my point. Concern for the former is selfless and beautiful. Concern for the latter is almost always dishonest.
I'm going to be 100% honest here.....If a lottery means that I might not get tickets to a show I want to go to, then I'm against it. If the current F5'ing system means I get tickets to ALL the shows I want, then I'm for it. Call it selfish, but I could give a rat's ass if Joe Shmow can't get tickets, and I can. Either system is going to upset people, so it's just a matter of what PJ wants, not us. And I don't mean to offend anyone on here, this is just my opinion.
I'm going to be 100% honest here.....If a lottery means that I might not get tickets to a show I want to go to, then I'm against it. If the current F5'ing system means I get tickets to ALL the shows I want, then I'm for it. Call it selfish, but I could give a rat's ass if Joe Shmow can't get tickets, and I can. Either system is going to upset people, so it's just a matter of what PJ wants, not us. And I don't mean to offend anyone on here, this is just my opinion.
The lottery for fan club tickets for the pearl jam tour is the only way to go...If the ten club can't provide a better online process?...Lottery is the only fair way...Everyone has an equal chance..
I'm going to be 100% honest here.....If a lottery means that I might not get tickets to a show I want to go to, then I'm against it. If the current F5'ing system means I get tickets to ALL the shows I want, then I'm for it. Call it selfish, but I could give a rat's ass if Joe Shmow can't get tickets, and I can. Either system is going to upset people, so it's just a matter of what PJ wants, not us. And I don't mean to offend anyone on here, this is just my opinion.
The lottery for fan club tickets for the pearl jam tour is the only way to go...If the ten club can't provide a better online process...Lottery is the only fair way...Everyone has an equal chance..
Jeremy
For a regular tour it definitely wouldn't be a problem. Many more tickets to go around.
I know people that won the lottery 3 times. Back to back nights actually. I think they just put people they want there, I don't think it's an actual lottery.
If they follow the same theory for handing out tix for PJ shows that they do for Ed shows, then I hear what you're saying. I can personally speak on the Ed shows side of things. My girlfriend and I, plus 2 friends we came with were picked by Ed's security for Front row seats, dead center, in Philly last year.
When exchanging tickets with us, they mentioned that they were looking for "nice, responsible, well-behaved looking couples" for those seats. They specifically reminded us to be courteous with cameras and to NOT take pictures.
Like I said, I have no idea if they follow this same pattern for the entire bands shows. I guess that it couldnt because the will call workers would never be able to judge peoples appearances/personalties before handing out the tickets. Idk.
And so you see, I have come to doubt All that I once held as true I stand alone without beliefs The only truth I know is you.
I know people that won the lottery 3 times. Back to back nights actually. I think they just put people they want there, I don't think it's an actual lottery.
If they follow the same theory for handing out tix for PJ shows that they do for Ed shows, then I hear what you're saying. I can personally speak on the Ed shows side of things. My girlfriend and I, plus 2 friends we came with were picked by Ed's security for Front row seats, dead center, in Philly last year.
When exchanging tickets with us, they mentioned that they were looking for "nice, responsible, well-behaved looking couples" for those seats. They specifically reminded us to be courteous with cameras and to NOT take pictures.
Like I said, I have no idea if they follow this same pattern for the entire bands shows. I guess that it couldnt because the will call workers would never be able to judge peoples appearances/personalties before handing out the tickets. Idk.
Hi,
Dr. Delight,
I have been to a lot of pearl jam concerts....I have never seen anyone upgraded seats...Not saying it doens't happen...But, I have seen Tim escort a fan or two close to the stage...But, usually it isn't regular seat....It is like in the middle of the row or against the guard rail.....
I know people that won the lottery 3 times. Back to back nights actually. I think they just put people they want there, I don't think it's an actual lottery.
If they follow the same theory for handing out tix for PJ shows that they do for Ed shows, then I hear what you're saying. I can personally speak on the Ed shows side of things. My girlfriend and I, plus 2 friends we came with were picked by Ed's security for Front row seats, dead center, in Philly last year.
When exchanging tickets with us, they mentioned that they were looking for "nice, responsible, well-behaved looking couples" for those seats. They specifically reminded us to be courteous with cameras and to NOT take pictures.
Like I said, I have no idea if they follow this same pattern for the entire bands shows. I guess that it couldnt because the will call workers would never be able to judge peoples appearances/personalties before handing out the tickets. Idk.
Hi,
Dr. Delight,
I have been to a lot of pearl jam concerts....I have never seen anyone upgraded seats...Not saying it doens't happen...But, I have seen Tim escort a fan or two close to the stage...But, usually it isn't regular seat....It is like in the middle of the row or against the guard rail.....
Jeremy
As have I. As I said in my post, I was specifically referring to Ed solo shows.
And so you see, I have come to doubt All that I once held as true I stand alone without beliefs The only truth I know is you.
I'm going to be 100% honest here.....If a lottery means that I might not get tickets to a show I want to go to, then I'm against it. If the current F5'ing system means I get tickets to ALL the shows I want, then I'm for it. Call it selfish, but I could give a rat's ass if Joe Shmow can't get tickets, and I can. Either system is going to upset people, so it's just a matter of what PJ wants, not us. And I don't mean to offend anyone on here, this is just my opinion.
The lottery for fan club tickets for the pearl jam tour is the only way to go...If the ten club can't provide a better online process?...Lottery is the only fair way...Everyone has an equal chance..
Jeremy
Like I said, i'm against it. i don't care what system makes it fair for everyone. I WANT MY TICKETS! It's selfish, I know. These are concert tickets....It's kill or be killed! First come first serve.
I'm going to be 100% honest here.....If a lottery means that I might not get tickets to a show I want to go to, then I'm against it. If the current F5'ing system means I get tickets to ALL the shows I want, then I'm for it. Call it selfish, but I could give a rat's ass if Joe Shmow can't get tickets, and I can. Either system is going to upset people, so it's just a matter of what PJ wants, not us. And I don't mean to offend anyone on here, this is just my opinion.
The lottery for fan club tickets for the pearl jam tour is the only way to go...If the ten club can't provide a better online process?...Lottery is the only fair way...Everyone has an equal chance..
Jeremy
Like I said, i'm against it. i don't care what system makes it fair for everyone. I WANT MY TICKETS! It's selfish, I know. These are concert tickets....It's kill or be killed! First come first serve.
Hi Tom,
I can understand you wanting tickets...But, when you pay your membership fee...Each memeber should have an equal chance...
My fear is that when a WA show is played... I'll get boned. It always been a fear of mine living up here but I hope when there's a full PJ tour they do a regional lottery first, then open it up to everyone. This is how the old system should have been set up as well IMO
"Well, I think this band is incapable of sucking."
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
I am all for the lottery for PJ tours. If I don't get tickets I will find my way into the venues somehow.
PJ: 2003 Mansfield: July 2 2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29 2005 Montreal: Sept 15 2006 Boston: May 24 & 25 2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28, 2010 Boston: May 17 2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25, 2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7
If I don't get tickets I will find my way into the venues somehow.
That's another thing, even if you don't get tickets, there are plenty of members out there that will sell em for face. I've been to a couple places without any tickets. But upon arriving, i find a fan and buy em. I'd still rather have em ahead of time....
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This thread is confusing. :oops: The OPP was talking about lottery as in 10club ticket sale lottery, right? Or was it lottery as it scoring lottery seats @ the show? Row 1, 2, 9, 10.
They must be just lucky to win it three nights in a row..
I think once you win the lottery for the 1st, 2nd, 9th, and 10th your name should be scratched off....So, you can't win that win the lottery for the that row again....This is how I would do it...But, I am not running the 10c...There is no reason one person should win the front row more than once during a tour....It supposed to be a lottery for fans that have great fan club numbers....
Jeremy
I have proof that is rigged...I seen it with my own two eyes...The ten club won't ever admit it that isn't totally randomed.....I don't give a crap if they select who they want up front...But, I thought this lottery was for fans that don't have so great of fan club numbers...A chance to get a ticket up front....Also, don't call it totally random...When it isn't..
Jeremy
KingJeremyD
PM me the PROOF you've been ranting about! I'm still waiting.
"This is the greatest band in the world"---Ben Harper
On another note, I believe it was Kelly Curtis or Tim who said a lottery can't work for a full band tour because Pearl Jam has too many non US fans unlike Dave Matthews or Phish. Can someone please explain this? I believe non US fans are just as capable of entering a lottery as US fans. Payment methods are the same. Where's the problem?
Thanks 10 club.
Each person is supporting a system that serves their own best interest. It's too bad we can't all just be honest enough to admit that. There's no room on the moral high ground for people who are concerned about how others acquire concert tickets.
Guess there's no moral high ground either for people who donate $ to fight hunger and are concerned about how others acquire food. It's all about me.
You're equating fighting hunger to acquiring concert tickets. That's my point. Concern for the former is selfless and beautiful. Concern for the latter is almost always dishonest.
"This is the greatest band in the world"---Ben Harper
The lottery for fan club tickets for the pearl jam tour is the only way to go...If the ten club can't provide a better online process?...Lottery is the only fair way...Everyone has an equal chance..
Jeremy
For a regular tour it definitely wouldn't be a problem. Many more tickets to go around.
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When exchanging tickets with us, they mentioned that they were looking for "nice, responsible, well-behaved looking couples" for those seats. They specifically reminded us to be courteous with cameras and to NOT take pictures.
Like I said, I have no idea if they follow this same pattern for the entire bands shows. I guess that it couldnt because the will call workers would never be able to judge peoples appearances/personalties before handing out the tickets. Idk.
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Hi,
Dr. Delight,
I have been to a lot of pearl jam concerts....I have never seen anyone upgraded seats...Not saying it doens't happen...But, I have seen Tim escort a fan or two close to the stage...But, usually it isn't regular seat....It is like in the middle of the row or against the guard rail.....
Jeremy
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
Like I said, i'm against it. i don't care what system makes it fair for everyone. I WANT MY TICKETS! It's selfish, I know. These are concert tickets....It's kill or be killed! First come first serve.
"This is the greatest band in the world"---Ben Harper
Hi Tom,
I can understand you wanting tickets...But, when you pay your membership fee...Each memeber should have an equal chance...
Jeremy
-my dad after hearing Not for You for the first time on SNL .
2003 Mansfield: July 2
2004 Boston: Sept 28 & 29
2005 Montreal: Sept 15
2006 Boston: May 24 & 25
2008 Hartford: June 27, Mansfield: June 28,
2010 Boston: May 17
2013 Worcester: Oct 15, Hartford: Oct 25,
2016 Hampton: April 18, Raleigh: April 20 (cancelled), Columbia: April 21. Quebec: May 5. Boston (Fenway): August 7
EV Solo: Boston 8/2/08, Boston 6/16/11
That's another thing, even if you don't get tickets, there are plenty of members out there that will sell em for face. I've been to a couple places without any tickets. But upon arriving, i find a fan and buy em. I'd still rather have em ahead of time....
"This is the greatest band in the world"---Ben Harper
I can understand you wanting tickets...But, when you pay your membership fee...Each memeber should have an equal chance...
Jeremy[/quote]
I agree. We all should have an equal chance, and we do! 10c is not supposed to figure out who doesn't have internet access or a slow computer.
"This is the greatest band in the world"---Ben Harper