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Thank You Pearl Jam For Not Attending the Grammys

SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,988
edited February 2011 in The Porch
All the music celebrated today is overproduced, overhyped, and over the top. The show is full of fake acceptance awards and "performers" who are designed by their record label. I was proud to see you were not there when the band's name was called. Dylan is the only talented performer I saw there tonight.

But anyway, congrats to Muse for having the best light show of the year. That's what they won, right?
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  • gndcd402gndcd402 Posts: 2,576
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    All the music celebrated today is overproduced, overhyped, and over the top. The show is full of fake acceptance awards and "performers" who are designed by their record label. I was proud to see you were not there when the band's name was called. Dylan is the only talented performer I saw there tonight.

    But anyway, congrats to Muse for having the best light show of the year. That's what they won, right?
    Muse is an amazing band, if you don't see their talent then your love of PJ blinded you from seeing other great music.

    Let me guess, Mumford and Sons suck as well.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Muse is rock? Serious question. I dont know.
  • Muse is a great, talented band. they have paid their dues
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  • come on Uncle Neil (Young) was there.
  • gfnk001gfnk001 Posts: 652
    I have to say I've grown to appreciate Muse. But they are not PJ.
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    I'm not a fan of Muse, but I can see their talent. The song they performed is pretty good. Also, other great performers are there tonight, including Mumford and Sons, Avett Brothers, Arcade Fire, and Black Keys!
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,988
    gndcd402 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    All the music celebrated today is overproduced, overhyped, and over the top. The show is full of fake acceptance awards and "performers" who are designed by their record label. I was proud to see you were not there when the band's name was called. Dylan is the only talented performer I saw there tonight.

    But anyway, congrats to Muse for having the best light show of the year. That's what they won, right?
    Muse is an amazing band, if you don't see their talent then your love of PJ blinded you from seeing other great music.

    Let me guess, Mumford and Sons suck as well.

    Mumford and Sons have a lot of talent but I think their album could be better. I have heard every Muse album and the only one that has stayed in my iTunes collection is their first.

    My love of Pearl Jam has not blinded me in terms of loving music. Bands that are out today that I love include (quickly and off the tope of my head): Animal Collective, TV on the Radio, Fleet Foxes, The National, Arcade Fire (who will be on later tonight), LCD Soundsystem, Beach House, The Roots, My Morning Jacket, and Deerhunter.
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,988
    I probably should not have included any comment about Muse because my point of this thread was not to show disdain towards them or seem like I care that PJ lost. I really am just happy to see that they do not buy into these self absorbed shows.
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  • SVRDhand13 wrote:
    But anyway, congrats to Muse for having the best light show of the year. That's what they won, right?


    Totally unnecessary pot shot. Muse are very very talented, have been around for a long while, and have arguably put out better music than Pearl Jam the past decade. I would take Black Holes and Revelations over anything after Yield. And their live shows are exceptional and affordable.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,988
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    But anyway, congrats to Muse for having the best light show of the year. That's what they won, right?


    Totally unnecessary pot shot. Muse are very very talented, have been around for a long while, and have arguably put out better music than Pearl Jam the past decade. I would take Black Holes and Revelations over anything after Yield. And their live shows are exceptional and affordable.

    Is anything written on this forum necessary?

    I think they are talented musicians who try to hard to make rock that will be popular to the masses, and tonight this was proven. I would take any PJ album over BH and R, including Riot Act.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,458
    This isn't 1993 man. Things are different. Cee-Lo, Avett Bros? There are some great acts there. Tom Petty? C'mon.
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  • LoulouLoulou Adelaide Posts: 6,247
    I know I am probably going to get shot down for this comment but I think Mumford and Sons had the best performance, I never really liked Muse's music but I can appreciate that they play a good live performance. :D
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  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    Loulou wrote:
    I know I am probably going to get shot down for this comment but I think Mumford and Sons had the best performance, I never really liked Muse's music but I can appreciate that they play a good live performance. :D


    Not shot down! I agree with this statement :)
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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Loulou wrote:
    I know I am probably going to get shot down for this comment but I think Mumford and Sons had the best performance, I never really liked Muse's music but I can appreciate that they play a good live performance. :D

    I agree. And Avett Brothers were very good too.
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  • LoulouLoulou Adelaide Posts: 6,247
    :oops: Thanks guys, was ready for an arse-kicking! :lol: Yeah, was that the other band playing with Dylan? If so, totally agree, they were very good too. :)
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  • GS163319GS163319 Posts: 132
    This isn't 1993 man. Things are different. Cee-Lo, Avett Bros? There are some great acts there. Tom Petty? C'mon.


    This guy is right - while several of us may dislike what the Grammy's are currently, and always have been about, bands have to buy into this bull shit nowadays more than ever. They aren't selling 12 million copies of a disc any more; to make a decent living buying in is a prerequisite.

    They can't win a Grammy, disparage everything about it, and still be huge. It just isn't the way it is. Pearl Jam can do what they do now, and what they started doing in 94, because of the time they blew up during. We can't forget this.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,988
    GS163319 wrote:
    to make a decent living buying in is a prerequisite.

    I get the rest of what you wrote, but plenty of bands make a great living and are never considered for a grammy and never attend the award show, including some of the bands I wrote earlier.
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  • gndcd402 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    All the music celebrated today is overproduced, overhyped, and over the top. The show is full of fake acceptance awards and "performers" who are designed by their record label. I was proud to see you were not there when the band's name was called. Dylan is the only talented performer I saw there tonight.

    But anyway, congrats to Muse for having the best light show of the year. That's what they won, right?
    Muse is an amazing band, if you don't see their talent then your love of PJ blinded you from seeing other great music.

    Let me guess, Mumford and Sons suck as well.

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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    GS163319 wrote:
    This guy is right - while several of us may dislike what the Grammy's are currently, and always have been about, bands have to buy into this bull shit nowadays more than ever. They aren't selling 12 million copies of a disc any more; to make a decent living buying in is a prerequisite.

    I doubt most of the attendees are "buying into this bullshit" - jesus christ what is the big deal about going to an award show and enjoying being appreciated? Can't people have fun anymore without being so elitist? If Eddie hadn't of knocked down the Grammy the band won in '93 and stop up there and truly appreciated it, you all would be singing a different song.

    It's ok, I'm sure you all like a pop song out there. Just admit it. I love Pearl Jam but also enjoy pop music (Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Usher, Eminem, *GASP* even BIEBER!). Enough with the elitist "I can only like rock bands with meaningful lyrics that don't have catchy songs." Sure, "F*** You" by Cee Lo doesn't have poetic lyrics, but you gotta admit its a great song. Or not. Tell me how Pearl Jam and a slew of underground bands are the only good thing left in music, and the rest is garbage. Liking anything popular is sacrilegious.

    Also, Muse totally deserved their Grammy over Backspacer. Hands down. I agree with the previous poster that said anyone who doesn't think Muse has good music has Pearl Jam blinders on.

    Drop the Elitism and you will feel sooo freee!! :)
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  • I doubt most of the attendees are "buying into this bullshit" - jesus christ what is the big deal about going to an award show and enjoying being appreciated? Can't people have fun anymore without being so elitist? If Eddie hadn't of knocked down the Grammy the band won in '93 and stop up there and truly appreciated it, you all would be singing a different song.

    It's ok, I'm sure you all like a pop song out there. Just admit it. I love Pearl Jam but also enjoy pop music (Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Usher, Eminem, *GASP* even BIEBER!). Enough with the elitist "I can only like rock bands with meaningful lyrics that don't have catchy songs." Sure, "F*** You" by Cee Lo doesn't have poetic lyrics, but you gotta admit its a great song. Or not. Tell me how Pearl Jam and a slew of underground bands are the only good thing left in music, and the rest is garbage. Liking anything popular is sacrilegious.

    Also, Muse totally deserved their Grammy over Backspacer. Hands down. I agree with the previous poster that said anyone who doesn't think Muse has good music has Pearl Jam blinders on.

    Drop the Elitism and you will feel sooo freee!! :)


    I love this post <3
  • force-10force-10 Posts: 794
    So, by your OP I would be accurate to say you think Neil Young sucks becuase he was there?

    If you agree or disagree (or anyone else) with what the grammy stands for nowadays (or anyday for that matter), any artist who attends is a piece of crap who deserves no respect (in the music business,anyway)?

    I really don´t understand this way of thinking. It´s not my intention to put words in your mouth, but I figure this is the way you think.

    PJ was at the top, and regardless of the decisions they made afterwards (don´t get me wrong, I respect what they did from 93 and after), they still benefited from it. The success still keeps cashing in. It does not matter if they do or do not attend an award show. Besides, Eddie´s gone to another equally distorted award ceremony (about 4 times). Guess wich one I´m talking about. Hint: a unique band like Rush, among many, are not inducted.
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    I doubt most of the attendees are "buying into this bullshit" - jesus christ what is the big deal about going to an award show and enjoying being appreciated? Can't people have fun anymore without being so elitist? If Eddie hadn't of knocked down the Grammy the band won in '93 and stop up there and truly appreciated it, you all would be singing a different song.

    It's ok, I'm sure you all like a pop song out there. Just admit it. I love Pearl Jam but also enjoy pop music (Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Usher, Eminem, *GASP* even BIEBER!). Enough with the elitist "I can only like rock bands with meaningful lyrics that don't have catchy songs." Sure, "F*** You" by Cee Lo doesn't have poetic lyrics, but you gotta admit its a great song. Or not. Tell me how Pearl Jam and a slew of underground bands are the only good thing left in music, and the rest is garbage. Liking anything popular is sacrilegious.

    Also, Muse totally deserved their Grammy over Backspacer. Hands down. I agree with the previous poster that said anyone who doesn't think Muse has good music has Pearl Jam blinders on.

    Drop the Elitism and you will feel sooo freee!! :)


    I love this post <3

    Haha why thank you - I thought I'd be getting a lot of criticism but this works out nicely! :)
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,988
    GS163319 wrote:

    It's ok, I'm sure you all like a pop song out there. Just admit it. I love Pearl Jam but also enjoy pop music (Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Usher, Eminem, *GASP* even BIEBER!). Enough with the elitist "I can only like rock bands with meaningful lyrics that don't have catchy songs." Sure, "F*** You" by Cee Lo doesn't have poetic lyrics, but you gotta admit its a great song. Or not. Tell me how Pearl Jam and a slew of underground bands are the only good thing left in music, and the rest is garbage. Liking anything popular is sacrilegious.

    Also, Muse totally deserved their Grammy over Backspacer. Hands down. I agree with the previous poster that said anyone who doesn't think Muse has good music has Pearl Jam blinders on.

    Drop the Elitism and you will feel sooo freee!! :)

    You can't just drop how you feel. I am totally fine in feeling that most artists on this award show do not have actual musical talent. I enjoy some early Eminem songs (which were played on the radio A LOT) but I do not like a song by any other artist you mentioned (no, not even Cee Lo).

    Neil Young deserved it IMO. Great segue :lol: .....

    I love Neil and forgot I saw him. I also didn't see Petty. And finally I do not feel that any artist who attends does not deserve respect, but I hold Pearl Jam to a higher standard than other bands (foolish of me, I know) and was happy to see they did not attend.
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  • SSS81SSS81 Posts: 175
    I don't like Muse but whatever, they won.

    What amazes me is that, not only did Pearl Jam not win, they snubbed Neil Young and Tom Petty. They should have added Bob Dylan to the group of nominees just to make it even more absurd. :lol:
  • LoulouLoulou Adelaide Posts: 6,247
    The muppets on Cee-Lo's piano were pretty good, especially the one with the blonde hair who sang! :lol::lol:
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,234
    So, you are thanking Pearl Jam for not going to the Grammy's, but you just admitted you watched the show? So the awards are so ludicrous that Pearl Jam who was nominated shouldn't have shown up to even watch, but you still watched it? If it is so ludicrous as you say, then why did you watch it?

    It is really funny to think that the band is probably spending time with their families during the Grammys and you all are watching the show, then going to PJ.com to post how irrelevant the show is and how great it is that Pearl Jam didn't show up even though you watched the show anyway.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,988
    So, you are thanking Pearl Jam for not going to the Grammy's, but you just admitted you watched the show? So the awards are so ludicrous that Pearl Jam who was nominated shouldn't have shown up to even watch, but you still watched it? If it is so ludicrous as you say, then why did you watch it?

    It is really funny to think that the band is probably spending time with their families during the Grammys and you all are watching the show, then going to PJ.com to post how irrelevant the show is and how great it is that Pearl Jam didn't show up even though you watched the show anyway.

    Hahaha I saw about 10 minutes worth because other people had it on in my house.
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  • Better Dan wrote:
    I'm not a fan of Muse, but I can see their talent. The song they performed is pretty good. Also, other great performers are there tonight, including Mumford and Sons, Avett Brothers, Arcade Fire, and Black Keys!

    I love all of these and was glad to see them perform. I am not necessarily a fan of Lady Gaga but she has some talent as far as her voice is concerned.
  • High Fidelity 2000High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    I think it's pretty cool they didn't show up... I have been watching bits and pieces and was shocked to even see the Best Rock Album category made it into the main show (figured it would have been one of those non-televised categories).
    Never quite got into Muse. Their new stuff sounds like they just wanna be Queen. I have the Absolution album and it's not too bad. Also, it's great to see most of the people "performing" are actually PLAYING INSTRUMENTS or SINGING LIVE... not too many years ago, all these music awards shows were full of nothing but no-talent rappers or little girls lip-syncing to a recording.
    Let's face it, if a PJ album was gonna be nominated for a Grammy these days, it should definitely be Backspacer (if you get my drift). ;)
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  • geckogecko Posts: 1,712
    edited February 2011
    Kinda glad they didn't bother.
    Would like if Le Noise won.
    I was a Muse fan in the begining, but lost them in the last few years. I tried, but I just don't find any enjoyment. I thought The Resistance was the worst. Time for that Grammy.
    Is it me or did they have more rock acts at Grammys this year than usual? That's good.
    Do they have ukulele category there? We might need it next year for Eddie.
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