Faithful Lyrics

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edited August 2008 in The Porch
I love this song EXCEPT what the hell were our boys thinking with "Drowned you are,
you are, you are a furry thing And everything is you
Me you, you me, it's all related" ?

Anybody else think this sounds weird?
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  • MA Posts: 7,314
    I will stick by my belief:

    I don't care what lyrics have been inserted into the booklet or how they appear on various lyrics sites. There is absolutely NO way its "a furry thing". It's an awesome play on words:

    You are you are everything
    and everything is you

    There's no way the real lyrics are "furry thing". It makes no sense and would be ridiculously cheesy by PJ's standards, let alone any band's standards. I think "furry thing" was meant as a joke because of how Ed pronounces it. Kind of like "Breakerfall" = "Break Her Fall", etc.

    If you take it as "You are everything and everything is you" the whole wordplay makes sense and no-one can convince me otherwise.

    Sorry for the rant. It just really bugs me when people insist on the whole "furry thing" lyric.
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  • Posts: 11,175
    I completely agree with the above statement. I never thought it was "a furry thing"

    I believe it is "ev-ery-thing"
  • Posts: 600
    it's one song were i couldnt give a fuck what the lyrics are, espically when it sounds this good.
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  • Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    BinFrog wrote:
    "furry thing"

    With respect to your opinion, the line stays in context with the theme of the album and the sentiments reflected in Ishmael.

    I absolutely agree that it could be a word play, but in this instance, I believe he says, "Furry Thing".

    Cheers,

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  • Posts: 172
    BinFrog wrote:
    I will stick by my belief:

    I don't care what lyrics have been inserted into the booklet or how they appear on various lyrics sites. There is absolutely NO way its "a furry thing". It's an awesome play on words:

    You are you are everything
    and everything is you

    There's no way the real lyrics are "furry thing". It makes no sense and would be ridiculously cheesy by PJ's standards, let alone any band's standards. I think "furry thing" was meant as a joke because of how Ed pronounces it. Kind of like "Breakerfall" = "Break Her Fall", etc.

    If you take it as "You are everything and everything is you" the whole wordplay makes sense and no-one can convince me otherwise.

    Sorry for the rant. It just really bugs me when people insist on the whole "furry thing" lyric.

    Agreed
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  • Posts: 1,065
    BinFrog wrote:
    I will stick by my belief:

    I don't care what lyrics have been inserted into the booklet or how they appear on various lyrics sites. There is absolutely NO way its "a furry thing". It's an awesome play on words:

    You are you are everything
    and everything is you

    There's no way the real lyrics are "furry thing". It makes no sense and would be ridiculously cheesy by PJ's standards, let alone any band's standards. I think "furry thing" was meant as a joke because of how Ed pronounces it. Kind of like "Breakerfall" = "Break Her Fall", etc.

    If you take it as "You are everything and everything is you" the whole wordplay makes sense and no-one can convince me otherwise.

    Sorry for the rant. It just really bugs me when people insist on the whole "furry thing" lyric.

    Ok, I see what you're saying. Thanks.
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  • Posts: 550
    perhaps the furry thing is referring to a telepathically communicating gorilla...

    edit...as pissbottleman has referred to above
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  • MA Posts: 7,314
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    With respect to your opinion, the line stays in context with the theme of the album and the sentiments reflected in Ishmael.

    I absolutely agree that it could be a word play, but in this instance, I believe he says, "Furry Thing".

    Cheers,

    PBM


    While I have heard that argument too, I still disagree. Just because Ishmael is about a gorilla, does not mean Faithful refers to a "furry thing". I can see themes in Ishmael that coincide with Yield. That I agree with, and Ed has mentioned that he was a big fan of the book around that time.
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  • Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    M.Y.T.H. is
    Belief in the game controls that keeps us in a box of fear
    We never listen
    Voice inside so drowned out
    Drowned you are, you are, you are a furry thing
    And everything is you
    Me you, you me, it's all related

    To me, this challenges the idea of faith. When you boil it all down, we are all one in the same...in the game scheme of life, it's all relative.

    PBM
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  • Posts: 7,762
    BinFrog wrote:
    While I have heard that argument too, I still disagree. Just because Ishmael is about a gorilla, does not mean Faithful refers to a "furry thing". I can see themes in Ishmael that coincide with Yield. That I agree with, and Ed has mentioned that he was a big fan of the book around that time.

    Ed was more than a "big fan."

    He's suggested that the text of Ishmael could be the complete liner notes for "Yield."

    I understand where you are coming from. There are examples of Ed intentionally writing the "wrong" lyrics in liner notes ("get out of my lucky face.")

    The difference here is that, not only does Ed write "a furry thing" in the liner notes ... he sings "a furry thing" on the record. I mean, listen to it. He isn't singing "everything" there.
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  • MA Posts: 7,314
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Ed was more than a "big fan."

    He's suggested that the text of Ishmael could be the complete liner notes for "Yield."

    I understand where you are coming from. There are examples of Ed intentionally writing the "wrong" lyrics in liner notes ("get out of my lucky face.")

    The difference here is that, not only does Ed write "a furry thing" in the liner notes ... he sings "a furry thing" on the record. I mean, listen to it. He isn't singing "everything" there.


    I still disagree


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  • London, UK Posts: 1,642
    Furry Thing !!!! Lmfao


    Hahahahah
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  • Posts: 163
    Definitely "every thing".

    It's a great line.
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  • Madison, WI Posts: 779
    I'm going with PBM on this one.
    My wife and I were just talking about this the other day. I called her a furry thing.
    Great ending lyrics to a great song IMO
    Like a word misplaced...nothing said...what a waste
  • Posts: 1,618
    gettingright wrote:
    perhaps the furry thing is referring to a telepathically communicating gorilla...

    edit...as pissbottleman has referred to above
    yep, that's it. I believe this entire song is referencing Ishmael.
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  • Posts: 2,497
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    M.Y.T.H. is
    Belief in the game controls that keeps us in a box of fear
    We never listen
    Voice inside so drowned out
    Drowned you are, you are, you are a furry thing
    And everything is you
    Me you, you me, it's all related

    To me, this challenges the idea of faith. When you boil it all down, we are all one in the same...in the game scheme of life, it's all relative.

    PBM

    I think it challenges the existence of a higher being in that bible is a myth (lie) and that people live their lives according to it and fear the wrath of "god" while our inner voice (nature) is muted by the fear of not following the bible - the furry thing (Ismael) advocates this...and of course how can man survive without gorilla - it's all related (it's evolution, baby!)

    I also think there is a great deal of sarcasm in this song. It's not so much about believing in god...it's more Why do you believe in god when a lot of the "teachings" go against nature??
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  • Posts: 302
    Song in question:

    Faithful

    Lyric in question:

    furry thing

    Answer:

    It's about Man's best friend, his dog.

    Just a guess
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  • Posts: 34
    morgie2 wrote:
    I love this song EXCEPT what the hell were our boys thinking with "Drowned you are,
    you are, you are a furry thing And everything is you
    Me you, you me, it's all related" ?

    Anybody else think this sounds weird?

    The song is a direct connection not to Ismeal but actually to Vonnegut's tome Galapagos.

    During the making of Yield, Eddie said, in that year's ten club magazine, that he finally got to see Vonnegut read live.

    Galapagos has to do with evolution from human to seal (and parting from religion in a sense).

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  • Posts: 8
    if I remember right the myth is that the world is 'ours'
    and we are mistaken, misguided, faithfully believing we are better than/other than furry things...
    I took the lyric not to mean Ishmael the gorrilla, but the listener of the song

    I am proud to be a furry thing (as well as everything)
  • Posts: 7,762
    BinFrog wrote:
    I still disagree


    "e-ver-y-thing"

    I'm just not hearing it, on the studio version. If so, ed has REALLY gone out of his way to make "everything" sound like "furry thing" ... To me, if it says "furry thing" and it sounds like "furry thing," well ...

    I could claim Ed is really singing "do the apple-lution," but just making is *sound* like "evolution." Doesn't make it true ...

    What I will concede is this:

    Ed has a history of writing lyrics that could be sung in different ways -- "violins" vs. "violence" in Daughter, "innocents" vs. "innocence" in I Am Mine.

    That could be what he's doing here. But on the studio version of this song ... it sure sounds like "furry thing" to me ...
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