@brianlux I understand you are getting some much needed rain?
Four tenths last night! As little as that sounds, we'll take it! That may not be enough to but out the big fires out here, but it does much to protect against new fires. Happy, happy!
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Greta nails it:
"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Perhaps you and her are looking for leaders in all the wrong places…politicians are not leaders, all politicians do is leach off others productivity.
Ford made an announcement yesterday investing 11 billion into electric car manufacturing and have promised that 40 percent of their vehicles will be electric by 2030…
so he's looking in the wrong place for a leader, our elected leaders, and you follow it up with a statement by a giant corporation (that has leeched off the taxpayer to the tune of hundreds of millions) as an example of leadership to look to? lol
"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Can someone explain the Thunberg hype to me? What is she saying and doing that hasn't been said and done by tens of thousands of advocates and experts of all ages since forever (the 70's)?
"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Can someone explain the Thunberg hype to me? What is she saying and doing that hasn't been said and done by tens of thousands of advocates and experts of all ages since forever (the 70's)?
her age. it's admirable to be so passionate and globally aware at that age.
"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Can someone explain the Thunberg hype to me? What is she saying and doing that hasn't been said and done by tens of thousands of advocates and experts of all ages since forever (the 70's)?
her age. it's admirable to be so passionate and globally aware at that age.
People her age have been passionate about this stuff since forever though.
yes, but probably more specifically this (and the age of social media, etc) Thunberg's activism began by persuading her parents to adopt lifestyle choices that reduced their own carbon footprint. In August 2018, at age 15, she started spending her school days outside the Swedish Parliament to call for stronger action on climate change by holding up a sign reading Skolstrejk för klimatet (School strike for climate)
The nimrod flies everywhere even though his riding is in Montreal an easy train ride from Ottawa… The nimrod is spending 12 plus billion on a pipeline through the Canadian Rocky Mountains against many indigenous people’s wishes and the land the pipeline is running through is also unceeded territory…
yup he’s a fraud in every sense of the word.
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"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Perhaps you and her are looking for leaders in all the wrong places…politicians are not leaders, all politicians do is leach off others productivity.
Ford made an announcement yesterday investing 11 billion into electric car manufacturing and have promised that 40 percent of their vehicles will be electric by 2030…
Agreed about politicians. The only problem is, they are the ones calling the shots (or at least being coerced to do so). As for a true climate change leader... well, Greta is doing well and making a big impact!
As for 11 billion electric cars, that an OK start and better than none, but not a solution. Imagine the amount of environmental destruction that will occur as a result of building 11 billion electric cars. The batteries alone require all sorts of metals, rare earths, and toxic chemicals. And then there is the amount of water needed to produce any vehicle. More cars are not the solution, just a different form of the same problem. Not as bad as internal combustion, true, but not nearly enough of a solution. Besides which, 40 is well less than half. Once again, half-assed measure to a problem that cannot but possible get much worse without stronger measures.
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"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Can someone explain the Thunberg hype to me? What is she saying and doing that hasn't been said and done by tens of thousands of advocates and experts of all ages since forever (the 70's)?
Few is any have reached as many as here with her words. How can you not see that? I am one of those advocated from as far back as the late 70's and I have been an advocate for solutions to environmental problems including global warming for over 40 years. How many people have I reach? Five, maybe? Doesn't mean I've been wasting my time but I have not reached millions like she has. That's not hype. That's called "making a difference". I'm proud of her for that.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Perhaps you and her are looking for leaders in all the wrong places…politicians are not leaders, all politicians do is leach off others productivity.
Ford made an announcement yesterday investing 11 billion into electric car manufacturing and have promised that 40 percent of their vehicles will be electric by 2030…
Agreed about politicians. The only problem is, they are the ones calling the shots (or at least being coerced to do so). As for a true climate change leader... well, Greta is doing well and making a big impact!
As for 11 billion electric cars, that an OK start and better than none, but not a solution. Imagine the amount of environmental destruction that will occur as a result of building 11 billion electric cars. The batteries alone require all sorts of metals, rare earths, and toxic chemicals. And then there is the amount of water needed to produce any vehicle. More cars are not the solution, just a different form of the same problem. Not as bad as internal combustion, true, but not nearly enough of a solution. Besides which, 40 is well less than half. Once again, half-assed measure to a problem that cannot but possible get much worse without stronger measures.
$11B spent on developing the e-car industry, not 11 billion electric cars.
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"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Perhaps you and her are looking for leaders in all the wrong places…politicians are not leaders, all politicians do is leach off others productivity.
Ford made an announcement yesterday investing 11 billion into electric car manufacturing and have promised that 40 percent of their vehicles will be electric by 2030…
Agreed about politicians. The only problem is, they are the ones calling the shots (or at least being coerced to do so). As for a true climate change leader... well, Greta is doing well and making a big impact!
As for 11 billion electric cars, that an OK start and better than none, but not a solution. Imagine the amount of environmental destruction that will occur as a result of building 11 billion electric cars. The batteries alone require all sorts of metals, rare earths, and toxic chemicals. And then there is the amount of water needed to produce any vehicle. More cars are not the solution, just a different form of the same problem. Not as bad as internal combustion, true, but not nearly enough of a solution. Besides which, 40 is well less than half. Once again, half-assed measure to a problem that cannot but possible get much worse without stronger measures.
$11B spent on developing the e-car industry, not 11 billion electric cars.
I'm laughing at myself! Truth is, I really do need to make an appointment with my optometrist! Otherwise I'm going to appear to be spreading rumors!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Perhaps you and her are looking for leaders in all the wrong places…politicians are not leaders, all politicians do is leach off others productivity.
Ford made an announcement yesterday investing 11 billion into electric car manufacturing and have promised that 40 percent of their vehicles will be electric by 2030…
Agreed about politicians. The only problem is, they are the ones calling the shots (or at least being coerced to do so). As for a true climate change leader... well, Greta is doing well and making a big impact!
As for 11 billion electric cars, that an OK start and better than none, but not a solution. Imagine the amount of environmental destruction that will occur as a result of building 11 billion electric cars. The batteries alone require all sorts of metals, rare earths, and toxic chemicals. And then there is the amount of water needed to produce any vehicle. More cars are not the solution, just a different form of the same problem. Not as bad as internal combustion, true, but not nearly enough of a solution. Besides which, 40 is well less than half. Once again, half-assed measure to a problem that cannot but possible get much worse without stronger measures.
Sorry. They are investing 11 billion dollars. Not building 11 billion cars…
I read that the investment will include an on-site recycling facility that will capture 90% of battery material and be re-used.
I give them credit.
I look at it this way, electric vehicles are still in the early stages of the product, relatively speaking…I just assume they will and can build better the more they invest…
Ford, SK to invest $11.4 bln to add electric F-150 plant, three battery factories
"Build back better. Blah, blah, blah. Green economy. Blah blah blah. Net zero by 2050.
Blah, blah, blah,” she said in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit in
Milan, Italy, on Tuesday. “This is all we hear from our so-called
leaders. Words that sound great but so far have not led to action. Our
hopes and ambitions drown in their empty promises.”
Perhaps you and her are looking for leaders in all the wrong places…politicians are not leaders, all politicians do is leach off others productivity.
Ford made an announcement yesterday investing 11 billion into electric car manufacturing and have promised that 40 percent of their vehicles will be electric by 2030…
Agreed about politicians. The only problem is, they are the ones calling the shots (or at least being coerced to do so). As for a true climate change leader... well, Greta is doing well and making a big impact!
As for 11 billion electric cars, that an OK start and better than none, but not a solution. Imagine the amount of environmental destruction that will occur as a result of building 11 billion electric cars. The batteries alone require all sorts of metals, rare earths, and toxic chemicals. And then there is the amount of water needed to produce any vehicle. More cars are not the solution, just a different form of the same problem. Not as bad as internal combustion, true, but not nearly enough of a solution. Besides which, 40 is well less than half. Once again, half-assed measure to a problem that cannot but possible get much worse without stronger measures.
Sorry. They are investing 11 billion dollars. Not building 11 billion cars…
I read that the investment will include an on-site recycling facility that will capture 90% of battery material and be re-used.
I give them credit.
I look at it this way, electric vehicles are still in the early stages of the product, relatively speaking…I just assume they will and can build better the more they invest…
Ford, SK to invest $11.4 bln to add electric F-150 plant, three battery factories
its been a year and 4 months in the making (town permit and utility company delays) but as of today I'm fully electrical self-sufficient. small pittance to the whole world but hopefully more and more people shift away from fossil fuels. solar isnt perfect but if you can, why not
its been a year and 4 months in the making (town permit and utility company delays) but as of today I'm fully electrical self-sufficient. small pittance to the whole world but hopefully more and more people shift away from fossil fuels. solar isnt perfect but if you can, why not
it all counts for something. you can't get everyone on board without anyone.
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its been a year and 4 months in the making (town permit and utility company delays) but as of today I'm fully electrical self-sufficient. small pittance to the whole world but hopefully more and more people shift away from fossil fuels. solar isnt perfect but if you can, why not
Well done!
My dream home would have a combination of solar, small wind generator (as long as I could get one that doesn't kill birds) and with a creek on the property for water and small turbine power. At this point, not likely to happen. But if I had the means and half as many years on me, at this point in time and history I would go all out to make it happen.
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The other side of electric cars. An article forward to me on FB. Worth considering. If this information is wrong/inaccurate, I would certainly like to know how and why.
REALITY CHECK -This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. A home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla each.
In case you were thinking of buying hybrid or an electric car...
Ever since the advent of electric cars, the REAL cost per mile of those things has never been discussed. All you ever heard was the mpg in terms of gasoline, with nary a mention of the cost of electricity to run it.
At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro Executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious.
If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you had to face certain realities. For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three houses with a single Tesla each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.
This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So, as our genius elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This later "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be presented with an 'OOPS...!' and a shrug.
If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are eco-friendly, just read the following. Note: If you ARE a green person, read it anyway. It's enlightening.
Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and he writes, "For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine." Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.
It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.
According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned, so I looked up what I pay for electricity.
I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 Mpg = $0.10 per mile.
The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the Volt costs $46,000 plus. So the Government wants us to pay twice as much for a car, that costs more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to drive across the country.
WAKE UP NORTH AMERICA!!!!!!!....copied from John Koth
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I dont know about that. I doubt there's a limit to how many houses in a neighborhood could be permitted for panel upgrade. think its a question 2 or 3 phase service within a home.
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I dont know about that. I doubt there's a limit to how many houses in a neighborhood could be permitted for panel upgrade. think its a question 2 or 3 phase service within a home.
location may factor in I suppose.
But let's say there was no limit and all of the houses in the neighbor were permitted and retrofitted for upgrades-- The question still remains (and maybe more so), could the infrastructure bear the load?
Location would surely matter, of course. Much a California already faces power grid failure during the summer months. We've experienced black outs and rolling black outs already over the last few years during heat waves, some that have lasted for days. Add to that stress on the power grid with even just another 10% to 20% of cars replaced by electrics and down goes the system. Is the grid able to hold up when more cars go electric? I don't know. Does anyone know? Has any or all of this been factored in? I think some areas at least (particularly high population states) are in for some serious trouble with all of this. Hopefully not. We'll see.
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I don't entirely get it. The panel in your house is different than the distribution to your neighborhood, so those are seperate arguments. The other is even if you have a 200amp panel, it doesn't mean your drawing that much power all the time. It's like internet. You might have a gigabit internet connection but how often do you run it all out. Some people might need to do a full charge over night... but most people probably drove less than 50km and would only need a short top up kind of thing.
While there might be a cost to electric cars, (ie the cost of upgrading home infrastucutre and electric delivery), what's the current alternative? Once again, its no, that can't possible work, so why try. Then we keep burning dinosaurs and the planet becomes uninhabitable for people.
At least here in BC we have that big dam being built up north that everyone things was a waste of money. I do agree with the poster above me. Where do they plan to get the extra power from? I assume electric companies can upgrade the grid, but generating the power, and doing it cleanly, that could create more challenges.
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I dont know about that. I doubt there's a limit to how many houses in a neighborhood could be permitted for panel upgrade. think its a question 2 or 3 phase service within a home.
location may factor in I suppose.
But let's say there was no limit and all of the houses in the neighbor were permitted and retrofitted for upgrades-- The question still remains (and maybe more so), could the infrastructure bear the load?
Location would surely matter, of course. Much a California already faces power grid failure during the summer months. We've experienced black outs and rolling black outs already over the last few years during heat waves, some that have lasted for days. Add to that stress on the power grid with even just another 10% to 20% of cars replaced by electrics and down goes the system. Is the grid able to hold up when more cars go electric? I don't know. Does anyone know? Has any or all of this been factored in? I think some areas at least (particularly high population states) are in for some serious trouble with all of this. Hopefully not. We'll see.
well I do believe these very things are a part of Biden's larger package.
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I dont know about that. I doubt there's a limit to how many houses in a neighborhood could be permitted for panel upgrade. think its a question 2 or 3 phase service within a home.
location may factor in I suppose.
But let's say there was no limit and all of the houses in the neighbor were permitted and retrofitted for upgrades-- The question still remains (and maybe more so), could the infrastructure bear the load?
Location would surely matter, of course. Much a California already faces power grid failure during the summer months. We've experienced black outs and rolling black outs already over the last few years during heat waves, some that have lasted for days. Add to that stress on the power grid with even just another 10% to 20% of cars replaced by electrics and down goes the system. Is the grid able to hold up when more cars go electric? I don't know. Does anyone know? Has any or all of this been factored in? I think some areas at least (particularly high population states) are in for some serious trouble with all of this. Hopefully not. We'll see.
well I do believe these very things are a part of Biden's larger package.
Yes, and for the most part I like Biden's desire to upgrade our infrastructure. It certainly needs it! But good intentions/ road to hell and all that come into play. My concern with Biden's plans are regarding viability. This biggest issue: Where do all these resources come from with out ravaging what's left of the natural world, and are we capable of generating the increase in energy to accomplish all these things?
Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm against alternative energy and "green solutions" and all that. I have advocated those things for many years. But I'm also beginning to understand how, in some ways, I have been rather naive about many of those noble propositions.
In 2021, on July 29th, humans had consumed all of the resources the planet had generated for the year (this refers to what is called "earth Overshoot Day as explained here: https://www.overshootday.org/ ). We have yet to find a way to amass resources and energy sources that don't over-tax the planet. This year, for 5 months beginning in August, we will be consuming resources the earth has will not be able to compensate for through natural production.
Somehow, we need to come up with better solutions. And hopefully sooner than later.
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kill half of the humans and burn them for fuel. problem solved
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where is the tech at with regards to how long (distance and/or time) a charge on a car will last? A buddy has a tesla, and his parents live 3 hours away. When he goes to visit, he barely makes it there (no charging stations in between in the vast emptiness of the prairies), and it has to charge overnight. that doesn't sound feasible for long distance travel at this point.
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I understand you are getting some much needed rain?
This announcement is huge. The only way we’ll ever see electric vehicles is if the big companies jump in head first…well Ford just did that.
Four tenths last night! As little as that sounds, we'll take it! That may not be enough to but out the big fires out here, but it does much to protect against new fires. Happy, happy!
Ford made an announcement yesterday investing 11 billion into electric car manufacturing and have promised that 40 percent of their vehicles will be electric by 2030…
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Thunberg's activism began by persuading her parents to adopt lifestyle choices that reduced their own carbon footprint. In August 2018, at age 15, she started spending her school days outside the Swedish Parliament to call for stronger action on climate change by holding up a sign reading Skolstrejk för klimatet (School strike for climate)
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The nimrod flies everywhere even though his riding is in Montreal an easy train ride from Ottawa…
The nimrod is spending 12 plus billion on a pipeline through the Canadian Rocky Mountains against many indigenous people’s wishes and the land the pipeline is running through is also unceeded territory…
yup he’s a fraud in every sense of the word.
Few is any have reached as many as here with her words. How can you not see that? I am one of those advocated from as far back as the late 70's and I have been an advocate for solutions to environmental problems including global warming for over 40 years. How many people have I reach? Five, maybe? Doesn't mean I've been wasting my time but I have not reached millions like she has. That's not hype. That's called "making a difference". I'm proud of her for that.
I read that the investment will include an on-site recycling facility that will capture 90% of battery material and be re-used.
I give them credit.
I look at it this way, electric vehicles are still in the early stages of the product, relatively speaking…I just assume they will and can build better the more they invest…
Ford, SK to invest $11.4 bln to add electric F-150 plant, three battery factories
The site will also include zero-waste-to-landfill processes to capture materials and scrap.
Zero waste. That sounds great!
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well I do believe these very things are a part of Biden's larger package.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Subaru built a waste free plant in NA and it still has zero landfill.
https://www.raffertysubaru.com/blog/2020/august/5/subaru-s-zero-waste-manufacturing-plant.htm
Lamborghini, supercar manufacturer is focusing on electric cars for the future and by 2024 will be all electric.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a36441763/lamborghini-lineup-hybrid-electric-future/
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