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There’s more than one way to skin a cat , impeachment please point me as to who’s talking impeach is Pelosi or Schiff ? It’s almost like the posters above are looking to be proven wrong just let the investigations take their course , to me even if he goes into retirement as thee worst president ever after two term I’ll let history tell the story a 2nd term will only stave off the outcome most of us see coming he will go down a disgraced president..
why does it appear there is no smoking gun? he hasn't even released the report yet. it's not like they are going to storm the doors of the oval office and put him in cuffs.
If there was anything major found, it would have been leaked. You honestly think that over 2 years of investigating that Mueller would be able to keep everything under wraps? If there was collusion many people would know about it and someone would have the evidence and be willing to talk.
I've asked this question 100s of times to people, How did Russia make you vote for Trump and would you want to change your vote because of the Russians? Not one person has told me how or yes.
Trump is not getting impeached, hes not resigning. And if the Democrats keep heading down the same road he will get re-elected.
In all fairness, Hugh, I think what is alleged is propaganda from Russian bots, and someone that was influenced by it wouldn't be consciously aware that they were.
That said, I also have a bad feeling that Mueller isn't going to have anything that could take Trump down. At least as far as Russian interference in the election goes. His business ties there may be a different story though.
I didn't say that. teskeinc messed up the quote function.
Still hoping for the impeachment process to begin...
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You haven’t been paying attention, it’s already started.
The Senate is not going to convict if it gets that far. lol.
Need 20 repubs to flip, 11 of which are up for re-election and who I consider vulnerable to the “patriotism” or “hypocrisy” accusation as it relates to coddling Putin on the ritz and other autocrats and Obama. I expect them to be tied to Team Trump Treason and hammered with it, as well as the dearth of economic improvements many of these repubs promised they would receive via Team Trump Treason’s promises. Repubs didn’t turn on Nixon until the tapes were released. Team Mueller has tapes and so much more. 230,000 documents from Cohen alone. Yea, it’s wrapping up and is a yuge nothing burger. LOL.
Still hoping for the impeachment process to begin...
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You haven’t been paying attention, it’s already started.
The Senate is not going to convict if it gets that far. lol.
Well, that doesn't mean he won't be impeached, does it?
Also, does the senate have to convict in order to force him to resign? Asking for a friend...
Nixon resigned because the writing was on the wall. They were going to convict. No other reason to resign. If Meltdown is right and there's no way the Senate would convict, he would not resign. And he's probably right. It's just a different time than it was in the 1970s. It wasn't "party first" then.
It is conceivable that the GOP would try to get him not to run if he were impeached, as that would probably hurt his chances in the general. But they'd still never convict him. And he'd run, if for no other reason to avoid facing justice. USA!
It's starting to look like the Mueller probe is a dud, anyway so this is probably all moot.
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Still hoping for the impeachment process to begin...
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You haven’t been paying attention, it’s already started.
The Senate is not going to convict if it gets that far. lol.
Well, that doesn't mean he won't be impeached, does it?
Also, does the senate have to convict in order to force him to resign? Asking for a friend...
Nixon resigned because the writing was on the wall. They were going to convict. No other reason to resign. If Meltdown is right and there's no way the Senate would convict, he would not resign. And he's probably right. It's just a different time than it was in the 1970s. It wasn't "party first" then.
It is conceivable that the GOP would try to get him not to run if he were impeached, as that would probably hurt his chances in the general. But they'd still never convict him. And he'd run, if for no other reason to avoid facing justice. USA!
It's starting to look like the Mueller probe is a dud, anyway so this is probably all moot.
Cool. Let's see what happens when he and/or a member of his family is indicted.
Correct, different time but also wildly different circumstances.
It's happening folks. Patience is the name of the game.
Still hoping for the impeachment process to begin...
lol
You haven’t been paying attention, it’s already started.
The Senate is not going to convict if it gets that far. lol.
Well, that doesn't mean he won't be impeached, does it?
Also, does the senate have to convict in order to force him to resign? Asking for a friend...
Nixon resigned because the writing was on the wall. They were going to convict. No other reason to resign. If Meltdown is right and there's no way the Senate would convict, he would not resign. And he's probably right. It's just a different time than it was in the 1970s. It wasn't "party first" then.
It is conceivable that the GOP would try to get him not to run if he were impeached, as that would probably hurt his chances in the general. But they'd still never convict him. And he'd run, if for no other reason to avoid facing justice. USA!
It's starting to look like the Mueller probe is a dud, anyway so this is probably all moot.
Cool. Let's see what happens when he and/or a member of his family is indicted.
Correct, different time but also wildly different circumstances.
It's happening folks. Patience is the name of the game.
A President is Impeached by the House of Representatives. A simple majority is needed to do so. The articles of impeachment, whatever they may be, have to be voted out of the sub-committees but that would be a given because it requires a vote that would be less than all democrats in the committees. The Speaker of the House then decides if it can be brought to the floor for a vote.
If 2/3 of the Senate vote yes then the President is removed from office and the VP becomes President.
This has never happened.
Clinton and Jackson were impeached by the House and acquitted by the Senate (by not receiving a 2/3 vote). A President has never been removed from office by impeachment. Failing to reach a 2/3 threshold in the Senate is considered acquittal. But it is still a stain on the Presidency. How he would use it for short term political gain does not take away the fact that he would be included in the history books as only the 3rd President who has been impeached. I think that fact would eat at his ego.
Nixon resigned before the House could vote in order to avoid being impeached - which he would have been - and then his VP Ford pardoned him for of any crimes that may or may not have occurred while in office. The Congress and Independent Counsel for Watergate had indictments ready to go but Ford beat them to it.
So Trump could be impeached and remain in office, like Clinton and Jackson.
The House and Senate could also choose to Censure the President which has a lower threshold and that's basically saying that he has been a bad President and harmed America (in simplistic terms).
Pardoning Trump if he resigned would not cover his butt as it did with Nixon because of the investigations that could lead to indictments by states.
And any member of the cabinet including the Vice President can be Impeached or Censured, just like any Senator or Representative. And there have been quite of few of those (in Congress).
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The barrage of tweets in the last few days seem very frantic.
The barrage of tweets in the last few days seem very frantic.
Thank you for reopening the thread. Me thinks Preet talking about Donny Jr. being in legal jeopardy and the news that Team Mueller had gotten search warrants for Cohen’s emails and phones prior to the raids. Cornered rat.
The barrage of tweets in the last few days seem very frantic.
They’re going to start digging around in his finances more and it turns out Cohen was being investigated by the fbi since July, 2017, which is earlier than people thought.
Wtf to all parties in this story. Of course Trump lies constantly about major things, and btw, that is illegal, and my god, I can't believe anyone would trust this man to even hold a door open without dropping in their face, let along lead a country. He is utterly corrupt. Why in the fuck Deutsche Bank let him get away with it is a story within itself.
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Chase Donald Trump's Russia scandal way back to a beauty pageant and it starts to make real sense
Part One: Back in 2013 the only person who saw Donald Trump as a serious threat to America was Vladimir Putin
https://www.salon.com/2019/03/06/chase-donald-trumps-russia-scandal-way-back-to-a-beauty-pageant-and-it-starts-to-make-real-sense/https://apple.news/AkyyUVCHwTTi9Z_lysErAnw
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More like incumbent only a coin flip away from re-election
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Also, does the senate have to convict in order to force him to resign? Asking for a friend...
It is conceivable that the GOP would try to get him not to run if he were impeached, as that would probably hurt his chances in the general. But they'd still never convict him. And he'd run, if for no other reason to avoid facing justice. USA!
It's starting to look like the Mueller probe is a dud, anyway so this is probably all moot.
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Correct, different time but also wildly different circumstances.
It's happening folks. Patience is the name of the game.
If 2/3 of the Senate vote yes then the President is removed from office and the VP becomes President.
This has never happened.
Clinton and Jackson were impeached by the House and acquitted by the Senate (by not receiving a 2/3 vote). A President has never been removed from office by impeachment. Failing to reach a 2/3 threshold in the Senate is considered acquittal. But it is still a stain on the Presidency. How he would use it for short term political gain does not take away the fact that he would be included in the history books as only the 3rd President who has been impeached. I think that fact would eat at his ego.
Nixon resigned before the House could vote in order to avoid being impeached - which he would have been - and then his VP Ford pardoned him for of any crimes that may or may not have occurred while in office. The Congress and Independent Counsel for Watergate had indictments ready to go but Ford beat them to it.
So Trump could be impeached and remain in office, like Clinton and Jackson.
The House and Senate could also choose to Censure the President which has a lower threshold and that's basically saying that he has been a bad President and harmed America (in simplistic terms).
Pardoning Trump if he resigned would not cover his butt as it did with Nixon because of the investigations that could lead to indictments by states.
And any member of the cabinet including the Vice President can be Impeached or Censured, just like any Senator or Representative. And there have been quite of few of those (in Congress).
We can’t call it a dud any more than we can call it damning at this point. Why? Because it’s still an ONGOING investigation. (Along with a few others)
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People are just impatient. And, understandably so, I guess.
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Report: Despite red flags and knowing he lied about his net worth, Deutsche Bank kept giving Trump loans
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