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***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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    ikiT said:
    I vote no on civil war.
    But it would feed the rich while it buries the poor.
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Lately I've heard a few pro-impeachment people say, "That would be great but if he is impeached I afraid the country will break out in civil war." 

    I honestly think that's nearly absurd.  Yes, there may be incidences of random violence (what else is new in America?), but give the average American the choice between going out and doing actual battle or staying home and watching Monday Night Football and stuffing themselves of Cheese Doodles and cheap beer, what are they going to choose?  I just don't see it.

    "Hey Marge, I think I'm gonna go out and join the Pro Trump militia."

    "But Fred, remember, today they have a special on Doritos and Ding Dongs at Walmart.  Should we really miss that?"

    "Nawww, you're right Marge.  Let's get in the truck and load up on goodies!"

    Civil war in America?  I don't think so.
    I love Ding Dongs!

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Lately I've heard a few pro-impeachment people say, "That would be great but if he is impeached I afraid the country will break out in civil war." 

    I honestly think that's nearly absurd.  Yes, there may be incidences of random violence (what else is new in America?), but give the average American the choice between going out and doing actual battle or staying home and watching Monday Night Football and stuffing themselves of Cheese Doodles and cheap beer, what are they going to choose?  I just don't see it.

    "Hey Marge, I think I'm gonna go out and join the Pro Trump militia."

    "But Fred, remember, today they have a special on Doritos and Ding Dongs at Walmart.  Should we really miss that?"

    "Nawww, you're right Marge.  Let's get in the truck and load up on goodies!"

    Civil war in America?  I don't think so.
    I love Ding Dongs!

    There was a great poet that once wrote.."Going downtown, going to see my gal, gonna sing a song, gonna show her my ding dong".  
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    Falling down,...not staying down
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,967
    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    I'm seeing chatter that McConnell should be removed from the process.  It sure seems like an oath has been violated but this admin is so fucked up anything goes.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,299
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    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    In America you can get away with anything as long as you have $$$$$$ lots of it , Moscow Mitch is a disgraceful idiot ...
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    In America you can get away with anything as long as you have $$$$$$ lots of it , Moscow Mitch is a disgraceful idiot ...
    Mitch is a disgrace, but he's not a criminal.  Let's keep some perspective.  
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,299
    2018
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    In America you can get away with anything as long as you have $$$$$$ lots of it , Moscow Mitch is a disgraceful idiot ...
    Mitch is a disgrace, but he's not a criminal.  Let's keep some perspective.  
    Disgraceful yes not criminal yet! Don’t worry by the time Baffoon is done with the GOP things might be different...
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    2018
    The foreman of the jury should not get to decide the rules of the trial with the defendant's lawyers.

    John Roberts should OVERSEE this process.  Convict this MF.  then you can pardon him and I can get on with my life.
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    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    In America you can get away with anything as long as you have $$$$$$ lots of it , Moscow Mitch is a disgraceful idiot ...
    Mitch is a disgrace, but he's not a criminal.  Let's keep some perspective.  
    Accomplice in the know? Unwitting accomplice? Un-indicted co-conspirator? Or just a dupe doing Team Trump Treason’s bidding?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    In America you can get away with anything as long as you have $$$$$$ lots of it , Moscow Mitch is a disgraceful idiot ...
    Mitch is a disgrace, but he's not a criminal.  Let's keep some perspective.  
    Accomplice in the know? Unwitting accomplice? Un-indicted co-conspirator? Or just a dupe doing Team Trump Treason’s bidding?
    Maybe just the last one.  
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279
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    So....what are the chances Bolton testifies in the senate?
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,766
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    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    In America you can get away with anything as long as you have $$$$$$ lots of it , Moscow Mitch is a disgraceful idiot ...
    Mitch is a disgrace, but he's not a criminal.  Let's keep some perspective.  
    I am not as knowledgable on many of these issues as some, BUT when:

    •Mitch McConnell claims to not have paid any attention to any of the public hearings in November.

    •Then, in December before the Senate has a chance to act as a jury, says there is "no way Buffoon will be removed".

    He, and anyone with such an outspoken premature decision should be removed from the vote.

    "Hi. I'm here to serve on a jury as the Senate leader for a case in which I have admittedly refused to neither see nor hear any evidence in any fair or unbiased stance. Therefore, I would like to render a verdict of not guilty in favor of the defendant. Thank you and let the shamwitchhunthoax begin while I get to working on the next level of Candy Crush. This candy will not crush itself!"
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    I don't know if I have the words to describe my thoughts for what is going on right now.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    I guess I'm befuddled by the Democrats.  They can't hold focus on a strategy for more then three days before changing an approach based on what their focus group data is telling them.  They have had soooo much time and here we are in the downstretch already.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    So how is Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts going to feel about participating in a sham trial in the Senate?

    Fox News: McConnell: 'No chance' Trump will be removed from office

    In America you can get away with anything as long as you have $$$$$$ lots of it , Moscow Mitch is a disgraceful idiot ...
    Mitch is a disgrace, but he's not a criminal.  Let's keep some perspective.  
    I am not as knowledgable on many of these issues as some, BUT when:

    •Mitch McConnell claims to not have paid any attention to any of the public hearings in November.

    •Then, in December before the Senate has a chance to act as a jury, says there is "no way Buffoon will be removed".

    He, and anyone with such an outspoken premature decision should be removed from the vote.

    "Hi. I'm here to serve on a jury as the Senate leader for a case in which I have admittedly refused to neither see nor hear any evidence in any fair or unbiased stance. Therefore, I would like to render a verdict of not guilty in favor of the defendant. Thank you and let the shamwitchhunthoax begin while I get to working on the next level of Candy Crush. This candy will not crush itself!"
    None of that is criminal so the statement that "he gets away with it" is unusual to me. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
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    Jason P said:
    I guess I'm befuddled by the Democrats.  They can't hold focus on a strategy for more then three days before changing an approach based on what their focus group data is telling them.  They have had soooo much time and here we are in the downstretch already.
    What are they supposed to do when they only control the house?
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    Jason P said:
    I guess I'm befuddled by the Democrats.  They can't hold focus on a strategy for more then three days before changing an approach based on what their focus group data is telling them.  They have had soooo much time and here we are in the downstretch already.
    What are they supposed to do when they only control the house?
    Trump won't be voted out of office.

    The votes aren't there.

    Clear cut and dry case of Partisanship.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Jason P said:
    I guess I'm befuddled by the Democrats.  They can't hold focus on a strategy for more then three days before changing an approach based on what their focus group data is telling them.  They have had soooo much time and here we are in the downstretch already.
    What are they supposed to do when they only control the house?
    I also don't understand this.  What strategy has changed?  From teh beginning, Pelosi said they would go for a narrow impeachment.  That's what they did, two articles.  I think they have stayed the course unless I'm missing some obvious left turn.  
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
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    Jason P said:
    I guess I'm befuddled by the Democrats.  They can't hold focus on a strategy for more then three days before changing an approach based on what their focus group data is telling them.  They have had soooo much time and here we are in the downstretch already.
    What are they supposed to do when they only control the house?
    Trump won't be voted out of office.

    The votes aren't there.

    Clear cut and dry case of Partisanship.
    agreed. I'm not sure what Jason expects the democrats to do differently. 
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    Edved82Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,251
    Trump will be "acquitted" in the Senate and use that as a campaigning tool for 2020, and his undecided voters from 2016 will lap it up. 4 more years of this unhinged fool and I'm not sure where we'll be.
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    Edved82 said:
    Trump will be "acquitted" in the Senate and use that as a campaigning tool for 2020, and his undecided voters from 2016 will lap it up. 4 more years of this unhinged fool and I'm not sure where we'll be.
    Good thing u used the quotes because it will not be an acquittal.  Just not a removal is all.

    One thing trump cemented in our govt, the potus is above the law.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    With the Senate Majority Leader coordinating and rigging the trial with the defendant, there can be no honest trial in the Senate. This means there will be no exoneration. No exoneration is possible.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,719
    Kat said:
    The corruption runs deep. It's not just the soul-eater at the top.
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    Edved82 said:
    Trump will be "acquitted" in the Senate and use that as a campaigning tool for 2020, and his undecided voters from 2016 will lap it up. 4 more years of this unhinged fool and I'm not sure where we'll be.
    Good thing u used the quotes because it will not be an acquittal.  Just not a removal is all.

    One thing trump cemented in our govt, the potus is above the law.
    Repubs will rue the day they acquiesced to Team Trump Treason and when the time comes when the tables are turned with a dem leading forth on all those evil dem things. Too bad Moscow Mitchy Baby wont live to see it happen but shithole people like Gaetz will. Rue the day.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,299
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    GOP plan is to rule from no on as long as they can rig elections they will! If anything 16 proved it they rather be the party of control as long as its not a Democrat in the WH fuck honesty ...
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    Jason P said:
    I guess I'm befuddled by the Democrats.  They can't hold focus on a strategy for more then three days before changing an approach based on what their focus group data is telling them.  They have had soooo much time and here we are in the downstretch already.
    What are they supposed to do when they only control the house?
    Trump won't be voted out of office.

    The votes aren't there.

    Clear cut and dry case of Partisanship.
    Clear cut and dry case of FEAR.

    Nancy needs to POCKET those articles and investigate the SNOT out of that Russian installed puppet. 
    His last year in office should be the one he is HAMSTRUNG the most, and if he's not going to be removed then all his "power" should be.
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    I think I'd be ok if the articles were not sent to the Senate unless and until there will clearly be an honest trial. It's rigged right now and that's more corruption we don't need. Just keep investigating. He'll likely do some new corruption too...can't help himself. Being humiliated should teach him to stop what he's doing but he won't listen. He wanted to be impeached so bad and proved it by not listening to all the warnings he got.  
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
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    Kat said:
    I think I'd be ok if the articles were not sent to the Senate unless and until there will clearly be an honest trial. It's rigged right now and that's more corruption we don't need. Just keep investigating. He'll likely do some new corruption too...can't help himself. Being humiliated should teach him to stop what he's doing but he won't listen. He wanted to be impeached so bad and proved it by not listening to all the warnings he got.  
    I agree. This “trial” will be a sham. Unreal times we live in.
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