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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I don't think so. not unless it's something so egregious it can't be ignored even by the losers in the senate. 
    If he is doing the same nonsense, I think you have to do it.  If you don't, you've lost the argument.  Losing the senate vote isn't necessarily losing the argument.  Ignoring it is.  
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    "THE FIELD"
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    This concerns me

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/12/democrats-post-trump-impeachment-dilemma-083747
    You impeach again.  

    I think the UK landslide should wake the democrats up.

    and in the states half the Democratic Party is fantasizing about govt healthcare, free college and debt forgiveness 

    if I were trump I’d be planning on four more years.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
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    the UK situation is incredibly different than the one in the US. it honestly can't really be compared at this moment. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,788
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the UK situation is incredibly different than the one in the US. it honestly can't really be compared at this moment. 
    exit polling at 144 of 50,000 locations. how accurate has it been historically?

    when were they done? early in the day? reported while still open for x amount of time?
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    "THE FIELD"
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the UK situation is incredibly different than the one in the US. it honestly can't really be compared at this moment. 

    The “common person” feels marginalized by immigrants and wants to give a new direction power so they don’t think the economy is passing them by. Sounds a bit like the US to me.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    "THE FIELD"
    As an example, historically strong labor Sunderland county vote is in. Although Labor is holding this seat,  Essentially labor is down 12% and that vote did not go to the Tories, it went to the Brexit party. They want out, they want borders, and they want their wall.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the UK situation is incredibly different than the one in the US. it honestly can't really be compared at this moment. 

    The “common person” feels marginalized by immigrants and wants to give a new direction power so they don’t think the economy is passing them by. Sounds a bit like the US to me.
    I dont remember you expressing your concern when Canadians re-elected Trudeau.

    Apples meet Oranges.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,720
    Lately I've heard a few pro-impeachment people say, "That would be great but if he is impeached I afraid the country will break out in civil war." 

    I honestly think that's nearly absurd.  Yes, there may be incidences of random violence (what else is new in America?), but give the average American the choice between going out and doing actual battle or staying home and watching Monday Night Football and stuffing themselves of Cheese Doodles and cheap beer, what are they going to choose?  I just don't see it.

    "Hey Marge, I think I'm gonna go out and join the Pro Trump militia."

    "But Fred, remember, today they have a special on Doritos and Ding Dongs at Walmart.  Should we really miss that?"

    "Nawww, you're right Marge.  Let's get in the truck and load up on goodies!"

    Civil war in America?  I don't think so.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,824
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    I’m not sure about a Civil War...but I know this: the devotion is unprecedented. I don’t see him actually being removed, but if it were to happen I wouldn’t be going anywhere the next day.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    brianlux said:
    Lately I've heard a few pro-impeachment people say, "That would be great but if he is impeached I afraid the country will break out in civil war." 

    I honestly think that's nearly absurd.  Yes, there may be incidences of random violence (what else is new in America?), but give the average American the choice between going out and doing actual battle or staying home and watching Monday Night Football and stuffing themselves of Cheese Doodles and cheap beer, what are they going to choose?  I just don't see it.

    "Hey Marge, I think I'm gonna go out and join the Pro Trump militia."

    "But Fred, remember, today they have a special on Doritos and Ding Dongs at Walmart.  Should we really miss that?"

    "Nawww, you're right Marge.  Let's get in the truck and load up on goodies!"

    Civil war in America?  I don't think so.
    Agreed.  No way.  It's a bunch of people who have seen too many Dirty Harry movies. 
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    brianlux said:
    Lately I've heard a few pro-impeachment people say, "That would be great but if he is impeached I afraid the country will break out in civil war." 

    I honestly think that's nearly absurd.  Yes, there may be incidences of random violence (what else is new in America?), but give the average American the choice between going out and doing actual battle or staying home and watching Monday Night Football and stuffing themselves of Cheese Doodles and cheap beer, what are they going to choose?  I just don't see it.

    "Hey Marge, I think I'm gonna go out and join the Pro Trump militia."

    "But Fred, remember, today they have a special on Doritos and Ding Dongs at Walmart.  Should we really miss that?"

    "Nawww, you're right Marge.  Let's get in the truck and load up on goodies!"

    Civil war in America?  I don't think so.
    I love Ding Dongs!

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    This concerns me

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/12/democrats-post-trump-impeachment-dilemma-083747
    You impeach again.  

    I think the UK landslide should wake the democrats up.

    and in the states half the Democratic Party is fantasizing about govt healthcare, free college and debt forgiveness 

    if I were trump I’d be planning on four more years.
    You can see Warren falling back.  The moderates are being heard,  and not on Twitter 

    Regarding my comment,  my point is that corruption needs to be addressed no matter how many times it loses in the Senate.  The UK issues are policy issues.  Losing the argument on socialized care or debt forgiveness is a legit policy discussion.  Ukraine is not.   It's corrupt. 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,720
    OnWis97 said:
    I’m not sure about a Civil War...but I know this: the devotion is unprecedented. I don’t see him actually being removed, but if it were to happen I wouldn’t be going anywhere the next day.
    I don't know about not going anywhere but for the sake of my vehicle, if I were into bumper stickers I would remove any that said "Bernie" or "Warren" etc.
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Lately I've heard a few pro-impeachment people say, "That would be great but if he is impeached I afraid the country will break out in civil war." 

    I honestly think that's nearly absurd.  Yes, there may be incidences of random violence (what else is new in America?), but give the average American the choice between going out and doing actual battle or staying home and watching Monday Night Football and stuffing themselves of Cheese Doodles and cheap beer, what are they going to choose?  I just don't see it.

    "Hey Marge, I think I'm gonna go out and join the Pro Trump militia."

    "But Fred, remember, today they have a special on Doritos and Ding Dongs at Walmart.  Should we really miss that?"

    "Nawww, you're right Marge.  Let's get in the truck and load up on goodies!"

    Civil war in America?  I don't think so.
    I love Ding Dongs!


    I know- and they are so healthy!  :lol:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Lately I've heard a few pro-impeachment people say, "That would be great but if he is impeached I afraid the country will break out in civil war." 

    I honestly think that's nearly absurd.  Yes, there may be incidences of random violence (what else is new in America?), but give the average American the choice between going out and doing actual battle or staying home and watching Monday Night Football and stuffing themselves of Cheese Doodles and cheap beer, what are they going to choose?  I just don't see it.

    "Hey Marge, I think I'm gonna go out and join the Pro Trump militia."

    "But Fred, remember, today they have a special on Doritos and Ding Dongs at Walmart.  Should we really miss that?"

    "Nawww, you're right Marge.  Let's get in the truck and load up on goodies!"

    Civil war in America?  I don't think so.
    Agreed.  No way.  It's a bunch of people who have seen too many Dirty Harry movies. 

    Haha!
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
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    dignin said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the UK situation is incredibly different than the one in the US. it honestly can't really be compared at this moment. 

    The “common person” feels marginalized by immigrants and wants to give a new direction power so they don’t think the economy is passing them by. Sounds a bit like the US to me.
    I dont remember you expressing your concern when Canadians re-elected Trudeau.

    Apples meet Oranges.
    exactly. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,606
    These are the types of people supporting and protecting Team Trump Treason, those who believe they’re above the law and that it doesn’t apply to them. What a political party.

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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    These are the types of people supporting and protecting Team Trump Treason, those who believe they’re above the law and that it doesn’t apply to them. What a political party.

    https://apple.news/AmnVsJacXTAaGjM-hh9w3Yw

    He was called out later referring to his DUI.  It was beautiful.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,544
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    These are the types of people supporting and protecting Team Trump Treason, those who believe they’re above the law and that it doesn’t apply to them. What a political party.

    https://apple.news/AmnVsJacXTAaGjM-hh9w3Yw
    Keep in mind that republican politicians and voters don't  give a damn about....

    The constitution 
    Rule of law
    Facts
    Morals 
    Ethics
    Provable verifiable evidence
    Friends and allies
    Doing the right thing
    Common sense
    Americans
    Etc

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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    The corruption runs deep. It's not just the soul-eater at the top.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    "THE FIELD"
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the UK situation is incredibly different than the one in the US. it honestly can't really be compared at this moment. 

    The “common person” feels marginalized by immigrants and wants to give a new direction power so they don’t think the economy is passing them by. Sounds a bit like the US to me.
    I dont remember you expressing your concern when Canadians re-elected Trudeau.

    Apples meet Oranges.
    exactly. 


    Exactly what?

    Read the news this morning. It's obvious  traditional labour voters feel marginalized about income inequality. Canada is far more liberal than the US and UK.

    Except when it comes to the ON Premier, of course.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
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    Is Canada arguing about building a wall like US and UK?
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Is Canada arguing about building a wall like US and UK?
    A wall? They live on an island. 

    And to say that Canada is far more liberal than the UK makes you look out of your depth.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the UK situation is incredibly different than the one in the US. it honestly can't really be compared at this moment. 

    The “common person” feels marginalized by immigrants and wants to give a new direction power so they don’t think the economy is passing them by. Sounds a bit like the US to me.
    I dont remember you expressing your concern when Canadians re-elected Trudeau.

    Apples meet Oranges.
    exactly. 


    Exactly what?

    Read the news this morning. It's obvious  traditional labour voters feel marginalized about income inequality. Canada is far more liberal than the US and UK.

    Except when it comes to the ON Premier, of course.
    Also, most of our premiers are conservative. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Lately I've heard a few pro-impeachment people say, "That would be great but if he is impeached I afraid the country will break out in civil war." 

    I honestly think that's nearly absurd.  Yes, there may be incidences of random violence (what else is new in America?), but give the average American the choice between going out and doing actual battle or staying home and watching Monday Night Football and stuffing themselves of Cheese Doodles and cheap beer, what are they going to choose?  I just don't see it.

    "Hey Marge, I think I'm gonna go out and join the Pro Trump militia."

    "But Fred, remember, today they have a special on Doritos and Ding Dongs at Walmart.  Should we really miss that?"

    "Nawww, you're right Marge.  Let's get in the truck and load up on goodies!"

    Civil war in America?  I don't think so.
    I love Ding Dongs!

    Ding dongs are delicious.  End of story.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
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    look at our previous PM. highly conservative. many thought he was trying to put women back in the kitchen. he was PM for 9 and a half years. we had one guy who was in the running for the conservative leadership that was Trump Jr (that asshole from Dragon's Den/Shark Tank). Ultimately, he was rejected. But would he have been if we had the same immigration issues, and the subsequent fear mongering that conservative politicians would have been sure to follow up with, that the US and europe has? I bet he would have won in a landslide.

    we have one of our provinces starting their own "exit" movement after Trudeau was elected. 

    that's what we mean about apples to oranges. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,280
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    Republicans upset they have to work on a Friday. Well you should've stopped submitting dumb amendments that had no chance of passing up to six hours after you said you were going to stop.

    Let's get this show on the road
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,606
    The Juggler said:
    Republicans upset they have to work on a Friday. Well you should've stopped submitting dumb amendments that had no chance of passing up to six hours after you said you were going to stop.

    Let's get this show on the road
    Or stop repeating the theatrical performances and going into long soliloquies about Team Trump Treason allows warriors to be warriors by torturing detainees. What a country.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,969
    The Juggler said:
    Republicans upset they have to work on a Friday. Well you should've stopped submitting dumb amendments that had no chance of passing up to six hours after you said you were going to stop.

    Let's get this show on the road
    Exactly....they did their little circus for 12 hours and then shit their pants when Nadler moves the vote.  I'm so glad he did that...like a swift kick in the nuts.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
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    dignin said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Is Canada arguing about building a wall like US and UK?
    A wall? They live on an island. 

    And to say that Canada is far more liberal than the UK makes you look out of your depth.
    Conservatives won how many national UK elections in a row and how many years since a conservative CAN PM?


    Northern Ireland is not on the Island you mentioned. It is one of the many serious Brexit complications.

    That is the literal wall problem. Brexit also represents figurative walls as well. Many.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    YO whatabout Hunter Biden's crackpipe ®  ?
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    I vote no on civil war.
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