***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,133
    Is he impeached yet? I stopped paying attention to the circus a few weeks ago.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,103
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    Kind of a big story in the New Yorker this week....but of course it's drowned out by the president failing even the most basic tasks of being president...yet again. 

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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,768
    Congressman Moves To Impeach Donald Trump, Says No Such Thing As ‘Good Nazis’
    “No moral president would ever shy away from outright condemning hate, intolerance and bigotry,” Rep. Steven Cohen (D-Tenn.) said.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-cohen-impeach-trump_us_5995a204e4b06ef724d6de57?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009



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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-just-six-senate-votes-130457745.html

    Trump Is Just Six Senate Votes Away From Impeachment




  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,412
    Will Trump resign first? If the senate has the votes to convict, will the House begin proceedings? Betting folks want to know.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
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    JC29856 said:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-just-six-senate-votes-130457745.html

    Trump Is Just Six Senate Votes Away From Impeachment




    that's a tad misleading. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,412
    JC29856 said:
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-just-six-senate-votes-130457745.html

    Trump Is Just Six Senate Votes Away From Impeachment




    that's a tad misleading. 
    That's SOP, JC coming at you in 3D.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,412
    Dear God If you want us toimpeach Trump justgive us a sign Like blotout the sun anytime inthe next weekThanksAmerica
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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,768
    hahahaha
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
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    Will Trump resign first? If the senate has the votes to convict, will the House begin proceedings? Betting folks want to know.
    I read that the guy who wrote Art of the Deal says he expects Trump to resign relatively soon to avoid the eventual humiliation. Maybe the guy is just trying to sell books or get his name in the news again, so tread lightly here. The guy certainly knows Trump very well though.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,119
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    Will Trump resign first? If the senate has the votes to convict, will the House begin proceedings? Betting folks want to know.
    I read that the guy who wrote Art of the Deal says he expects Trump to resign relatively soon to avoid the eventual humiliation. Maybe the guy is just trying to sell books or get his name in the news again, so tread lightly here. The guy certainly knows Trump very well though.
    Yes that guy does know 45 very well, he spent several years getting to know him. He gave an interview earlier this spring where says 45 will resign due to mounting pressure from the investigation etc. He also said he would only do so if 45 had an angle, a way out where he could clearly place the blame for resigning somewhere else. I'll try to find that interview it gave great insight as to the man 45 is really like.

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,119
    edited August 2017
    2019
    I think this was the interwiew.....

    https://youtu.be/y0kUX8U4p7Q

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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,357
    Dear God If you want us toimpeach Trump justgive us a sign Like blotout the sun anytime inthe next weekThanksAmerica
    Excellent!
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,565
    g under p said:
    Will Trump resign first? If the senate has the votes to convict, will the House begin proceedings? Betting folks want to know.
    I read that the guy who wrote Art of the Deal says he expects Trump to resign relatively soon to avoid the eventual humiliation. Maybe the guy is just trying to sell books or get his name in the news again, so tread lightly here. The guy certainly knows Trump very well though.
    Yes that guy does know 45 very well, he spent several years getting to know him. He gave an interview earlier this spring where says 45 will resign due to mounting pressure from the investigation etc. He also said he would only do so if 45 had an angle, a way out where he could clearly place the blame for resigning somewhere else. I'll try to find that interview it gave great insight as to the man 45 is really like.

    Peace
    A narcissist wouldn't exit without having something to go to where, in his mind, he thinks he's victorious. Maybe if Bannon gets the boot, trump will join him later to make a fascist media outlet.  
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,362
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    Dear God If you want us toimpeach Trump justgive us a sign Like blotout the sun anytime inthe next weekThanksAmerica
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,412
    Will Trump resign first? If the senate has the votes to convict, will the House begin proceedings? Betting folks want to know.
    I read that the guy who wrote Art of the Deal says he expects Trump to resign relatively soon to avoid the eventual humiliation. Maybe the guy is just trying to sell books or get his name in the news again, so tread lightly here. The guy certainly knows Trump very well though.
    He stated that he helped create the monster (his words) and he's felt guilty ever since. His pennance was to volunteer for Hillary's campaign and he's donating his profits from Art of the Deal to immigration advocacy groups. Trump will never resign unless it's a plea deal with a pardon. He'd rather burn that dump of a White House than resign.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,565
    g under p said:
    Will Trump resign first? If the senate has the votes to convict, will the House begin proceedings? Betting folks want to know.
    I read that the guy who wrote Art of the Deal says he expects Trump to resign relatively soon to avoid the eventual humiliation. Maybe the guy is just trying to sell books or get his name in the news again, so tread lightly here. The guy certainly knows Trump very well though.
    Yes that guy does know 45 very well, he spent several years getting to know him. He gave an interview earlier this spring where says 45 will resign due to mounting pressure from the investigation etc. He also said he would only do so if 45 had an angle, a way out where he could clearly place the blame for resigning somewhere else. I'll try to find that interview it gave great insight as to the man 45 is really like.

    Peace
    A narcissist wouldn't exit without having something to go to where, in his mind, he thinks he's victorious. Maybe if Bannon gets the boot, trump will join him later to make a fascist media outlet.  
    Just saw a poll that said 60% of trump supporters will support him no matter what he does. That's about 20% of the country (also the same percentage I said are racists). An audience of 50 million that will buy anything you sell will be hard for him to resist. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,412
    edited August 2017
    "Eventually the truth will out." Just a matter of time, folks. Give it a few more weeks of inane tweets, stupid rallies and some "incident" to expose the brilliant brilliance of the brilliantly incompetent and the knives will come out.

    Follow the money, Mueller, from Russia with love and a PTAPE, all the way to impeachment. 755 + 1.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/opinion/op_ed/2017/08/ignatius_putin_s_meddling_backfires_as_spy_games_exposed
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,250
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    https://youtu.be/OcKcjpSWmm0

    I'm gonna post this till it happens to the Orange bafoon ! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
     
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-process-begins-democrat-155431379.html

    Trump Impeachment Process Begins as Democrat States President ‘Failed Test of Moral Leadership’

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,412
    You know it's going to happen, right? What? You think he and his policies are brilliant? Tired of winning yet?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,250
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    I believe people still think this mess will get better as if he will become a good president overnight he is what he is @70 yrs old he is not going to change!
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    edited August 2017
    2019
    Look, I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but do you really think impeachment and conviction will happen? Democrats winning the House really seems unlikely at this point. Let's say somehow there's a majority of House members who vote to impeach, that's just the start. Getting 60 votes in the Senate for just about anything anymore is like pulling teeth. Hell, a simple majority is hard. But for impeachment?!? That would be tough. 
    Is the thinking that Mueller will just deliver a knock out report that swings Rs? Trust me, if it gets to that point, the White House will be tipped off and it will be a resignation. 
    Finally, let's say the smoking gun of the pee tape is found? What does that do? Most Trump supporters acknowledge that he is not a man of great personal character. And if the idea was to soil a place where Obama slept, don't you think his supporters would love that? You know how he could kill someone and not lose supporters, well he could be getting pissed on by Russian hookers saying, "I can't believe Russia is going to help me by hacking into election systems in the US" and not lose support. Hell, I already hear Hannity's spin- the us media, deep state, and both parties were out to rig the election. Why can't Donald fight fire with fire?"
    Basically, instead of punchline zingers, catch phrases and unrealistic expectations- how does this realistically seriously play out in your eyes? We know it's not going to end well, but fancy me with your logic. 
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,119
    2019
    Look, I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but do you really think impeachment and conviction will happen? Democrats winning the House really seems unlikely at this point. Let's say somehow there's a majority of House members who vote to impeach, that's just the start. Getting 60 votes in the Senate for just about anything anymore is like pulling teeth. Hell, a simple majority is hard. But for impeachment?!? That would be tough. 
    Is the thinking that Mueller will just deliver a knock out report that swings Rs? Trust me, if it gets to that point, the White House will be tipped off and it will be a resignation. 
    Finally, let's say the smoking gun of the pee tape is found? What does that do? Most Trump supporters acknowledge that he is not a man of great personal character. And if the idea was to soil a place where Obama slept, don't you think his supporters would love that? You know how he could kill someone and not lose supporters, well he could be getting pissed on by Russian hookers saying, "I can't believe Russia is going to help me by hacking into election systems in the US" and not lose support. Hell, I already hear Hannity's spin- the us media, deep state, and both parties were out to rig the election. Why can't Donald fight fire with fire?"
    Basically, instead of punchline zingers, catch phrases and unrealistic expectations- how does this realistically seriously play out in your eyes? We know it's not going to end well, but fancy me with your logic. 
    I agree the way this administration is going it is not going to end well. It's as if 45 knows it's not going to end well or he's already has a plan for an endgame. In the meantime its as if he saying....I'm going to do what I want and say whatever I want as long as my base sticks with me. What a mess I thought while he was on vacation we the citizenry would get a break from the chaos while WH is being renovated. However, everyday it's like what crazy shit happened today, it can not continue like this I just hope no nuclear decisions have to be made while 45 is still in charge. Bless the whole world.

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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    2019
    ^ Righr on, g. Right on 
  • Do you swear by that article?  I swear that those six votes wont happen.  I swear.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    getting close!


    The core question is not a simple one: whether there were any links and/or coordination between the Trump campaign and representatives of the Russian government ("collusion" in the term popularized by the media; "conspiracy" in legal terms). This is because direct evidence of any collusion or conspiracy may be difficult to come by.

    Not Perry Mason

    It is unlikely that a signed agreement between the parties would exist. It is not probable that written documents expressly evidence a quid pro quo. It would be surprising if there were any Perry Mason-style confessions by witnesses appearing before the grand jury.

    To the extent that any evidence of a conspiracy were to exist and the conspiracy could be proven, it is likely that most of the evidence would be circumstantial -- that is, it may only consist of verbal understandings and tacit agreements through financial and other intermediaries and close business associates.


    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/18/opinions/russia-special-counsel-room-to-roam-opinion-zeldin/index.html

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,103
    2019
    Look, I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but do you really think impeachment and conviction will happen? Democrats winning the House really seems unlikely at this point. Let's say somehow there's a majority of House members who vote to impeach, that's just the start. Getting 60 votes in the Senate for just about anything anymore is like pulling teeth. Hell, a simple majority is hard. But for impeachment?!? That would be tough. 
    Is the thinking that Mueller will just deliver a knock out report that swings Rs? Trust me, if it gets to that point, the White House will be tipped off and it will be a resignation. 
    Finally, let's say the smoking gun of the pee tape is found? What does that do? Most Trump supporters acknowledge that he is not a man of great personal character. And if the idea was to soil a place where Obama slept, don't you think his supporters would love that? You know how he could kill someone and not lose supporters, well he could be getting pissed on by Russian hookers saying, "I can't believe Russia is going to help me by hacking into election systems in the US" and not lose support. Hell, I already hear Hannity's spin- the us media, deep state, and both parties were out to rig the election. Why can't Donald fight fire with fire?"
    Basically, instead of punchline zingers, catch phrases and unrealistic expectations- how does this realistically seriously play out in your eyes? We know it's not going to end well, but fancy me with your logic. 
    Honestly, I think he will resign instead of facing conviction in the senate. It will be similar to Nixon. I should change the title of the thread to impeachment/resignation----to me it's kind of the same thing. Just the idea of when will this "presidency" end prematurely...
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,518
    Look, I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but do you really think impeachment and conviction will happen? Democrats winning the House really seems unlikely at this point. Let's say somehow there's a majority of House members who vote to impeach, that's just the start. Getting 60 votes in the Senate for just about anything anymore is like pulling teeth. Hell, a simple majority is hard. But for impeachment?!? That would be tough. 
    Is the thinking that Mueller will just deliver a knock out report that swings Rs? Trust me, if it gets to that point, the White House will be tipped off and it will be a resignation. 
    Finally, let's say the smoking gun of the pee tape is found? What does that do? Most Trump supporters acknowledge that he is not a man of great personal character. And if the idea was to soil a place where Obama slept, don't you think his supporters would love that? You know how he could kill someone and not lose supporters, well he could be getting pissed on by Russian hookers saying, "I can't believe Russia is going to help me by hacking into election systems in the US" and not lose support. Hell, I already hear Hannity's spin- the us media, deep state, and both parties were out to rig the election. Why can't Donald fight fire with fire?"
    Basically, instead of punchline zingers, catch phrases and unrealistic expectations- how does this realistically seriously play out in your eyes? We know it's not going to end well, but fancy me with your logic. 
    Honestly, I think he will resign instead of facing conviction in the senate. It will be similar to Nixon. I should change the title of the thread to impeachment/resignation----to me it's kind of the same thing. Just the idea of when will this "presidency" end prematurely...
    Unfortunately I think he would fight impeachment as hard as possible.
    He's  the kind of wealthy narcissistic jackass that would spend a million dollars to fight a $50,000 lawsuit.
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