SCALPERS! ALREADY! How can this happen!

nmtheo
nmtheo Louisville Posts: 61
edited January 2016 in The Porch
Just looked online to check when tickets go on sale for the public. Tickets are being scalped and tickets aren't officially on sale!! How does this happen???
KY PJ Fan
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  • P-Town-P-Jam-Fan
    P-Town-P-Jam-Fan Posts: 930
    The same way people speculatively sell stocks
    Gorge
  • nmtheo
    nmtheo Louisville Posts: 61
    Thank you (Captain Obvious)!
    KY PJ Fan
  • kmac1976
    kmac1976 Posts: 84
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/business/media/report-exposes-widespread-abuses-in-ticketing-industry-in-new-york.html?_r=0
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    Just watched a bit of that story on the mainstream news. Ticketing is a fixed game. All fixed.
  • nmtheo
    nmtheo Louisville Posts: 61
    Recently had option for My Morning Jacket pre sale at a local venue (being from Louisville) and I logged on exactly at sale time. Well, they were sold out and already being scalped!!!
    KY PJ Fan
  • Travelar
    Travelar Posts: 3,452
    Ticketmaster owns Stub Hub... and a good number of tickets go there first at an increased rate instead of being sold to the fans. It's a racket.
  • Sprunkn7
    Sprunkn7 Posts: 5,286
    Travelar said:

    Ticketmaster owns Stub Hub... and a good number of tickets go there first at an increased rate instead of being sold to the fans. It's a racket.

    I just want a half way decent Pearl Jam seat for Philly..it's like asking for someones first born
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  • TL170678
    TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422
    Ebay owns Stub Hub... But I bet the CEO`s are buddies.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    kmac1976 said:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/business/media/report-exposes-widespread-abuses-in-ticketing-industry-in-new-york.html?_r=0

    Everybody should read this
  • Joeyoey65
    Joeyoey65 Posts: 2
    edited January 2016
    Here is the official press release issued by New York Attorney General Schneiderman, dated January 28, 2016, titled: A.G. Schneiderman Announces Findings of Investigation into Consumer Abuses in Live Entertainment Ticket Industry.

    ag.ny.gov/press-release/ag-schneiderman-announces-findings-investigation-consumer-abuses-live-entertainment

    [Editing to add: See 44 page pdf link of the investigation mentioned in the first sentence of the first paragraph. I almost missed it.]
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    24 hours before PJ tix go on sale

    interesting
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,293
    In addition, legit season ticket holders have access to their own presales. In most cases, the venues can either guarantee their same seats or similar ones.
    Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,335
    edited January 2016
    lol and people ask me why I'm not trying for tickets thru TM or any secondary market it's a scam a fucking kick in your balls it's not worth my time or $$$$ .....and I have to say it I know the band knows this is how it is but man now it taste like a lolypop stuck up someone's ass !!!!!
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,702
    Travelar said:

    Ticketmaster owns Stub Hub... and a good number of tickets go there first at an increased rate instead of being sold to the fans. It's a racket.

    Ticketmaster owns TM+ and Ticketmaster ticket exchange.

    Ebay owns Stubhub.
  • svenhoek
    svenhoek Buford, GA Posts: 52
    A friend of mine wanted to go to the Greenville show. So the day the tour was announced his girlfriend went on Google and searched for tickets and found a website selling them already. She paid almost $400 for 2 tickets that are probably going to be in the nose bleed section. I had no clue this happened until he told me about it.
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    svenhoek said:

    A friend of mine wanted to go to the Greenville show. So the day the tour was announced his girlfriend went on Google and searched for tickets and found a website selling them already. She paid almost $400 for 2 tickets that are probably going to be in the nose bleed section. I had no clue this happened until he told me about it.

    This is how they do it...cause people buy into it..Totally sux but you have to be smarter and not pay $200 for a pearl jam ticket
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,144
    josevolution said:

    .....and I have to say it I know the band knows this is how it is but man now it taste like a lolypop stuck up someone's ass !!!!!

    Like Good Charlotte?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • iwasatpj20
    iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,475
    I always felt that there was something between StubHub and Ticketmaster and other ticket outlets. Never could put my finger on it, but felt that something was up.
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  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,069
    Gonna try for MSG 1 tomorrow, but I already know what the result will be. I'll just keep an eye out on stubhub over the next few months and hope a reasonable deal slips in at some point.
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2016
    I tried reading the AG's report but I'm too sleepy. None of it is surprising or news or frankly likely to admit to anything. But we can hold out hope.

    Actually thinking about it a little further I wonder if the results might not make things even worse for average Joes like us. I dunno about you guys, but what seems to be pretty typical strategy among desperate ticket seekers like me is to get on to TM at exactly ticket drop time on multiple devices. Laptop, desktop, mobile phone. The result of which is TM sees multiple connections from the same IP trying to get in and throws out extra "security measures" (those fuckin pictures of street signs and rivers) which delay your ticket search by several precious seconds. As far as I can figure, that actually helps the brokers who are using illegal bot software which bypasses these security measures that are supposed to be preventing scalping.
    It got to a point today (I was trying to buy tickets for modest mouse at MSG for a friend) where I actually had to go through TWO rounds of "find the street signs" because TM was getting so many hits off me it figured I was a bot. And this is just me sitting in my apartment getting to get two tickets!

    Ugh. Anyone know where I can get some bot software? Seems like the only way I'll get MSG tickets tomorrow.
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