I should have been clearer. What I meant is, what is the thing which makes Force of Nature so likable? Is it the overall melody? Lyrics? Certain riffs? Just curious, because I seem to remember the song was getting mostly praise so would like to understand what I may be missing or on what tp focus to maybe get it.
As for Vitalogy, yes, it has some great songs, like the ones you listed, but because of things like Bugs, or Hey..., Pry to it just feels disconnected to me (but thats for another thread I think).
When I got the full album on ITunes I was rocking a 16gb phone. Had to trim it quite a bit. Only songs that made the cut were Just Breathe, Amongst The Waves, Got Some, Force of Nature and The End.
People like to rag on JB and The End but I find them to be some of my favorites. I love music that brings out all the emotions and those two have lyrics that hit home.
The album itself has songs that I don’t really enjoy, but I find myself appreciating the songs that I originally liked even more over time.
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There’s a lot to like about Backspacer. Some really great songs.
I’m not a fan of the album art. Too cartoonish. I feel like it subliminally affects people’s opinion of the album.
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I'd break it down as 2 great songs - Unthought Known and Amongst the Waves 3 good songs - Just Breathe, Got Some and Force of Nature 1 if I'm in the mood, I enjoy listening to songs - The End The rest I could do without
I should have been clearer. What I meant is, what is the thing which makes Force of Nature so likable? Is it the overall melody? Lyrics? Certain riffs? Just curious, because I seem to remember the song was getting mostly praise so would like to understand what I may be missing or on what tp focus to maybe get it.
As for Vitalogy, yes, it has some great songs, like the ones you listed, but because of things like Bugs, or Hey..., Pry to it just feels disconnected to me (but thats for another thread I think).
All of those things about Force of Nature are what makes it great. I don't understand people not liking Vitalogy. Especially from people who only like Ten. Pry to and Bugs did not affect my enjoyment of the album. Although I do like Pry to and Bugs and aye and Hey Foxy
I find myself listening to Backspacer a lot more than LB. Very easy listen and production feels cohesive. I actually listen to BS more than Binaural and Riot Act. Though I rank BS at the bottom just above LB, it is stronger now over 10 years ago than when it came out:
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Got Some is solid, likely the best traditional PJ song on the album. Just Breathe is one of the best post 00’s songs there are, along with Unthought Known.
The Fixer and the End wouldnt/doesn’t really bring the album down but can’t say I love either.
Problem is Johnny Guitar, Supersonic, Force of Nature are B-sides.
Amongst the Waves tries to be an anthem but never quite gets there. Always a just miss for me.
Solid album from start to finish with a couple of clunkers (Johnny Guitar, Supersonic) in there but so what. I take it for a quick, fun upbeat album with cool artwork. Come on who doesn't like an astronaut drummer in space? Haha! Seriously, it's one of my favorite stickers!
That’s 10 years too many. Lost dogs is better than that album. Everything about that album sucks except a couple songs. The art work is complete shit. Poppy and Happy Pearl Jam is not what I signed up for.
Great Songs Speed of Sound The End
Ok Songs Just Breathe Amongst the Waves
Force of Nature Unthought Known (except for the Rhinestone lyric, that goes in dog shit)
Dog Shit Songs Gonna See My Friend The Fixer Got Some Johnny Guitar Supersonic
The Dog Shit songs are no where as bad as Mankind or the Whale Song but close.
Not everyone bats a thousand. Hopefully we never see Backspacer part deux
I really enjoy backspacer, I dont get the hate, but we all have varying tastes.
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I don’t HATE Backspacer as you could say I HATE mumble rap. It was and still is a disappointment for the caliber band that Pearl Jam is. Still better than most bands could do but not the standard Pearl Jam has set for themselves.
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Some people’s opinions are very interesting.
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Like it, don’t love it, and you can’t compare it to their best work. It’s an easier listen than say Binaural and Riot Act, but not as rewarding. I quite like a lot of it’s songs but don’t listen to the album that much other than in boots.
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As for Vitalogy, yes, it has some great songs, like the ones you listed, but because of things like Bugs, or Hey..., Pry to it just feels disconnected to me (but thats for another thread I think).
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3 good songs - Just Breathe, Got Some and Force of Nature
1 if I'm in the mood, I enjoy listening to songs - The End
The rest I could do without
I don't understand people not liking Vitalogy. Especially from people who only like Ten. Pry to and Bugs did not affect my enjoyment of the album. Although I do like Pry to and Bugs and aye and Hey Foxy
Just Breathe is one of the best post 00’s songs there are, along with Unthought Known.
Speed of Sound
The End
Ok Songs
Just Breathe
Amongst the Waves
Unthought Known (except for the Rhinestone lyric, that goes in dog shit)
Dog Shit Songs
Gonna See My Friend
The Fixer
Got Some
Johnny Guitar
Supersonic
The Dog Shit songs are no where as bad as Mankind or the Whale Song but close.
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Not worth the time.
Better music to listen to.
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Listen to backspacer, lightning bolt, gigaton ? Wasted time that is spent listening to much, much, better music.
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