2023 Oscars

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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,144
    mace1229 said:
    I don’t think that’s why nobody watches. It’s too long and boring. You can almost watch The Lord Of The Rings trilogy in that time. The hosts don’t bring their A-game, you think Chris has GI Jane references in his stand up? The majority of the show is filled with awards you didn’t know existed for a job you didn’t know people did going to names you never heard of. Do I really need to listen to some Foley artist I never heard of and never will again give a speech about how despite no one believing in him, he stuck with it and now his dream came true?
    And now it seems the nominees are obscure, I haven’t even heard of half the movies. When was the last iconic movie like Braveheart or Saving Private Ryan to win that I’d care to see a second time?
    I think that’s why no one watches.
    They've always been long. Well maybe not in the 70s. But since this is or was the Super Bowl of awards shows. They're going to cram a lot commercials.
    Your last sentence is another reason which I forgot to put that the ratings are down. 
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,144
    I still watch because it's live. And I have FOMO. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    igotid88 said:
    I still watch because it's live. And I have FOMO. 

    Lol. Your post finally made me google "FOMO". I've seen it said so many time, but never got around to figuring out what it means. Okay, well, lucky you this year then. There was finally something to see. :lol:
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,956
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't watch it either, because I can read who won the next day so why in the hell would I spend hours watching what I can find out in 1 minute? But I will argue that a lot of truly excellent films that were not at all obscure have won since the 90s: The Departed, The King's Speech, Slumdog Millionaire, No Country for Old Men, Million Dollar Baby, LOTR: The Return of the King, Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind, The Shape of Water, Argo, The Hurt Locker, 12 Years a Slave.... And FWIW, while it was kind of obscure before they won, Parasite is also totally worth watching twice.
    I’ve seen most of those and enjoyed them. But how many of those were from the last 10 years? I think 2. 
    I didn’t remember Argo and Hurt Locker winning.
    Looking the list of winners, the last movie I’d care to watch again was Hurt Locker, 2008.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    yeah, you're right mace. I was looking it up, and every single movie nominated for best picture in the oughts I knew of. in the 10's, less than half. I think part of it is, starting in 2009, they expanded the number of nominees from 5 to10, so a lot more obscure or foreign films became eligible. I actually liked that, as it introduced me to a lot more films that are amazing but are less than mainstream. 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,956
    This got me kind of thinking. I’m not saying all the winners are bad movies, and I know no one said I did. They’re just not those iconic movies I care to rewatch. So I was looking at the top 10 grossing movies year by year. For the last 10 years or more, pretty much the only movies that made the top 10 were either Marvel/DC movies, franchises (Star Wars, Hunger games, etc) remakes or sequels. Many of the top 20 fall into those same categories too. 
    So I’d imagine they are trying to reward originality, which they should. But at the same time it’s probably difficult to get a big budget original film made when they just aren’t money makers anymore. They might not even make Braveheart today with an original script and a big budget.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,171
    Poncier said:
    Or its just damage control PR.
    I mean, you don't "ask him to leave" and allow him to refuse.
    You have security escort him out onto Hollywood Boulevard.


    As suspected:

    Academy Lied About Asking Will Smith to Leave Oscars, Sources (tmz.com)
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Or its just damage control PR.
    I mean, you don't "ask him to leave" and allow him to refuse.
    You have security escort him out onto Hollywood Boulevard.


    As suspected:

    Academy Lied About Asking Will Smith to Leave Oscars, Sources (tmz.com)
    hahaha fuck the academy
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Funny animation of Will’s point of view during the incident. 

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,412
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    Or its just damage control PR.
    I mean, you don't "ask him to leave" and allow him to refuse.
    You have security escort him out onto Hollywood Boulevard.


    As suspected:

    Academy Lied About Asking Will Smith to Leave Oscars, Sources (tmz.com)

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    igotid88 said:
    I still watch because it's live. And I have FOMO. 
    I watched because I wanted to listen to Wanda Sykes and Amy Schumer.

    That link w Kareem's take was great also.  I love when he writes about something.  His thoughtful responses to things always open your eyes to the subject.  What I don't get however is the racism angle about black on black violence.  I have only head that from the black community saying that.  Don't know if FOX news took that view or any biggoted groups going that route?
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,490
    edited April 2022
    Chris Rock….he has lost his comedic edge if he has no guts to make any jokes about the Oscars at his comedy shows.  

    Chappell and Burr would do twenty minutes on it if it happened to them.  

    I guess he is taking the high road.  Maybe worried about Will Smith’s mental state.  Commendable.  

    Rich, famous people sure do attract trouble.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Rock mentioned he was still processing what happened. He likely also has his entire set rehearsed down to the word. 
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  • AllNiteThingAllNiteThing Posts: 1,107
    Chris Rock….he has lost his comedic edge if he has no guts to make any jokes about the Oscars at his comedy shows.  

    Chappell and Burr would do twenty minutes on it if it happened to them.  

    I guess he is taking the high road.  Maybe worried about Will Smith’s mental state.  Commendable.  

    Rich, famous people sure do attract trouble.

    Comedians don't work that way, typically.  Before they (big name comics) take their show to the larger arenas, they've already spent months/years perfecting the routine at small clubs.  They have it down the same way a band creates a setlist, they have all of the beats memorized and timed and their physical movements on stage worked out.  They'll oftentimes record the large performances for possible DVD or audio release.  To try to create a new joke just days before a show without trying it out in front of large crowds, and trying to figure out where it fits in the existing set without negatively impacting the existing act is just asking for trouble.  Throw in the fact that people seem to be split on who was right/wrong on this (just look at Twitter), Rock made the absolute best choice to not address it in his show.  To do so would have been taking an unneeded and stupid risk.  It has nothing to do with his 'edge'.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    add in the fact that he is most likely still dealing with the trauma...say what you will about the ridiculousness of hollywood and award shows, but being slapped across the face in front of millions and millions of people isn't something to sneeze at. I'm kind of surprised he's still going through with his tour. that's gotta be some heavy anxiety he's dealing with. 
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,258
    Smith has been banned from all Academy events, including The Oscars, for 10 years.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,853
    goldrush said:
    Smith has been banned from all Academy events, including The Oscars, for 10 years.
    Good.

    I hope he makes great movies and gets snubbed too.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,490
    edited April 2022
    Let's put this in perspective.  A guy slapped a guy.  It was on national tv and totally uncalled for and legally probably assault.  I don't know that we should hold a grudge against Smith if he shows he is trying to right the wrong.   If the worst thing we all did in our lives was slap someone I don't think we'd all be freaking out.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Let's put this in perspective.  A guy slapped a guy.  It was on national tv and totally uncalled for and legally probably assault.  I don't know that we should hold a grudge against Smith if he shows he is trying to right the wrong.   If the worst thing we all did in our lives was slap someone I don't think we'd all be freaking out.  
    you/we didn't slap someone in front of literally MILLIONS of people. that's the difference. this wasn't just a slap on the street in front of 5 friends. 

    just imagine the level of humiliation you'd feel after that. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    chris rock also has Non Verbal Learning Disorder, which doesn't allow him to understand non-verbal cues, which is probably why he wasn't able to predict the slap that was about to happen. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    chris rock also has Non Verbal Learning Disorder, which doesn't allow him to understand non-verbal cues, which is probably why he wasn't able to predict the slap that was about to happen. 
    I don't think that's it. I think he just figured "there's no way in hell this guy is REALLY mad over that joke." I bet he figured Will was just gonna do an impromptu bit.....like throwing some fake Muhammad Ali-type of jabs or something. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    it was a cheap shot too. if you watch it again, there was little to no indication to me will was going to do anything violent. coward. 
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    edited April 2022
    it was a cheap shot too. if you watch it again, there was little to no indication to me will was going to do anything violent. coward. 
    It was ridiculous. He's made such a fool out of himself. I know a lot of armchair psychologists have concluded that he was trying to impress Jada or earn back the manhood he lost in that pathetic "Red Table" discussion with her. But walking up to a man that you outweigh by 50 pounds, slapping him when he never expected it, and not even cause the guy to flinch or move off his spot? A cheap shot is pathetic enough. A cheap shot that the person being slapped completely no-sells (to use some wrestling parlance) is beyond pathetic.

    I never thought I'd see the day where words like "coward," "pathetic," etc. would be used to describe Will Smith. 

    Just another embarrassing day for Uncle Phil and the Banks family.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    yeah, it was pretty funny that Chris barely moved from his spot. I mean, slapping is bad enough. But for it to be no sold, as you said, is really laughable. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,144
    I'm going to miss the Oscars live for the first time in 30+ years. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited March 2023
    I really despise that woman with the giant collar plume thing in the audience, omg. She shoukd be kicked out, lol.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    ........ the broadcast just stopped at 8pm, before the biggest categories were announced. Wtf. This is the first time I have watched in years, and this tells me to never watch again.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,144
    PJ_Soul said:
    ........ the broadcast just stopped at 8pm, before the biggest categories were announced. Wtf. This is the first time I have watched in years, and this tells me to never watch again.
    Are you on the west coast?
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,258
    Short Round hugging Indy was the best part of the whole show 


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