predictable setlists???

mrpink90

say it aint so pj!!!

saw both brooklyn and philly shows and for the first time ever (seen them 22 times) there were numerous times i knew what song was coming next. knew pendulum was opening. knew either elderly woman or nothingman was gonna be the last slow song played at the start. knew lightning bolt and mind your manners were gonna be played back to back after elderly woman or nothingman, or corduroy played between them. knew sirens was gonna be played about 11 or 12 songs in. knew yellow moon would be the 2nd or 3rd song played after 1st encore. knew porch would close the first encore cause of the ed swinging shtick which i dont like.

i know they still do a good job of mixing it up, but whenever i saw them before i literally never knew what was coming next. they could and would play any song anywhere at anytime. why do the lightning bolt songs all have a specific place in the setlist? infallible is also always played towards the end of the 1st set. and again i dont like porch being locked in to end the first encore, theyve never played a certain song every night cause of a lighting effect or stage gimmick, why start now? thats a u2 thing not pj.

boyo79

I would suggest you see less shows on a tour

There is always a certain predictability with some songs, Even Flow is generally always played 30 minutes into the show for example. Personally I feel the mix in the setlists is pretty much spot on and if certain songs are played in specific slots then so it be. I wish I could have seen 4 Pearl Jam shows in the last night.....

jrnyc

Relatively speaking to other bands who play the same exact songs in same order every night, PJ is very unpredictable.

Relative to themselves they are a bit predictable lately. I hated Pendulum back to back nights in Brooklyn, was hoping night two they would come out and kick some ass like MSG 2 2010.

bootlegger10

How could anyone be upset after just seeing Brooklyn I + II and Philly I + II. That is the real question here.

It is an album tour, so of course we are going to hear the same songs. I agree though that Pearl Jam is trying a different setlist model where they start slow and then slow it down to start the first encore. THey probably are using it to pace themselves but maybe Ed is experimenting with the setlists.

All I know is I am anxiously hoping Fatal and Other Side are saved for future shows and not Hartford. If I am anxious about Fatal and Other Side then the band is pulling out all the songs for this tour.

The Waiting Trophy Man

First world Pearl Jam problems: Seeing multiple shows and hearing some of the same songs. :(

foodboy

this has been a trend for a while . maybe you just didn't notice. there seems to be a group of songs they play . if you go to three shows or four in a row you are going to see quite a few songs 3 and four times and even more twice with some rarities sprinkled in here and there. it takes too many shows to see those different songs. they are still better than most bands in mixing up their set lists but within their context have become predictable. in 03 at the dte center in michigan 2 shows 61 songs 1 the same. even the radio people were blown away the next day by this. i love their music but just wish it would be more like that. i understand they have a new album to promote but even on the avocado tour they didn't play the same songs off the album every night. between the hits and the new album it doesn't leave a lot of room for more variance.

SVRDhand13

That was like 7 songs you mentioned out of shows with 34 songs (BK had 31).

Here's what was not predictable:

- Chloe/Crown in main set
- Oceans to open encore
- Brain of J and Hail Hail not in very beginning of set
- 1/2 Full
- A ten song first encore
- Eruption
- Sleight of Hand
- Parachutes
- Leaving Here
- Amongst the Waves
- Satan's Bed
- Untitled --> MFC
- DTE --> Go --> Porch
- All those Yesterdays!!!!

And all those songs in predictable slots are fantastic every time

smanchac1

SVRDhand13 wrote:

That was like 7 songs you mentioned out of shows with 34 songs (BK had 31).

Here's what was not predictable:

- Chloe/Crown in main set
- Oceans to open encore
- Brain of J and Hail Hail not in very beginning of set
- 1/2 Full
- A ten song first encore
- Eruption
- Sleight of Hand
- Parachutes
- Leaving Here
- Amongst the Waves
- Satan's Bed
- Untitled --> MFC
- DTE --> Go --> Porch
- All those Yesterdays!!!!

And all those songs in predictable slots are fantastic every time

+100!

If you are unhappy with the shows, try doing less next time.

People are unhappy when they don't tour.
When they do tour, they must complain.

Just be greatful to have them still playing music after 23 years. That's all that I care about.

They could play all of ten every night and I'd still attend. But that's just me I guess.

Stephen Flow

After seeing them 30 times... this is something I've learned to never complain about... the ONE time I was a tad bummed w/ a setlist... well an opener... was MSG 03... they played Crazy Mary night 1 in the encore but opened with it night 2... I was hoping for something else as an opener but the rest of the show was just so good I couldn't complain.

DeLukin

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote:

First world Pearl Jam problems: Seeing multiple shows and hearing some of the same songs. :(

Amen to that.

JimmyV

They opened Worcester 1 with Release --> Long Road.

They played Fatal and Other Side on back to back nights.

Their setlists are not predictable.

BinFrog

Stephen Flow wrote:

After seeing them 30 times... this is something I've learned to never complain about... the ONE time I was a tad bummed w/ a setlist... well an opener... was MSG 03... they played Crazy Mary night 1 in the encore but opened with it night 2... I was hoping for something else as an opener but the rest of the show was just so good I couldn't complain.

I remember it well. I was totally let down for about a minute when they kicked into Crazy Mary. Luckily the show was awesome. I am rarely (almost never) bummed out at a PJ show...but that moment stands out for sure. You could hear a collective "huh?" from the crowd.

My3rdEye

SVRDhand13 wrote:

That was like 7 songs you mentioned out of shows with 34 songs (BK had 31).

Here's what was not predictable:

- Chloe/Crown in main set
- Oceans to open encore
- Brain of J and Hail Hail not in very beginning of set
- 1/2 Full
- A ten song first encore
- Eruption
- Sleight of Hand
- Parachutes
- Leaving Here
- Amongst the Waves
- Satan's Bed
- Untitled --> MFC
- DTE --> Go --> Porch
- All those Yesterdays!!!!

And all those songs in predictable slots are fantastic every time

Also dropped Pilate out of the blue in Philly... and Leash

SVRDhand13

My3rdEye wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

That was like 7 songs you mentioned out of shows with 34 songs (BK had 31).

Here's what was not predictable:

- Chloe/Crown in main set
- Oceans to open encore
- Brain of J and Hail Hail not in very beginning of set
- 1/2 Full
- A ten song first encore
- Eruption
- Sleight of Hand
- Parachutes
- Leaving Here
- Amongst the Waves
- Satan's Bed
- Untitled --> MFC
- DTE --> Go --> Porch
- All those Yesterdays!!!!

And all those songs in predictable slots are fantastic every time

Also dropped Pilate out of the blue in Philly... and Leash

Good point- Leash was intense!

YLed2

Some of you people in the Northeast just can't have enough can you?

:fp:

chain

Check Worcester 1 and 2

Night 1: 32 songs (was there!)
Night 2: 29 songs... including 22 different songs from night 1!!!

Yeah your right this is so predictable... :fp:

Ledbetterman10

Pendulum > Three mellow songs > Rest of the first set. > Encore Break > Sit-down acoustic set > Four hard rockers > Encore Break > Covers/Hard Rockers/Alive > Songs with house lights up

That's the basic formula at this point. Certainly they can surprise you with song placements. But this, at least for right now, is the setlist structure.

JimmyV

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

Pendulum > Three mellow songs > Rest of the first set. > Encore Break > Sit-down acoustic set > Four hard rockers > Encore Break > Covers/Hard Rockers/Alive > Songs with house lights up

That's the basic formula at this point. Certainly they can surprise you with song placements. But this, at least for right now, is the setlist structure.

The three "mellow songs" at Worcester 2 were Low Light, Given to Fly, and Do The Evolution.

Given2Fly-Fish

Nope. Whenever a band releases a new album, they are going to play a batch of new songs. Then add in setlist staples, and you still have plenty of surprises left!

Given2Fly-Fish

AND the setlists for this tour so far have been killer!!!

DiRtYyELLoWoCeAn

Given2Fly-Fish wrote:

AND the setlists for this tour so far have been killer!!!

TRUTH! That's why after Worcester 1 and 2 im catchinh HARTFORD!!!!

PJ51390

Guess what they are playing in Atlanta this year...NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry your FOUR setlists were so predictable, wish I had that problem in the two Atlanta, two Nashville and some Florida shows...oh wait, they aren't playing here!

baruchr

perhaps not predictable but some regulars, like DTE, given to fly and porch. Still a very unpredictable band when it comes to playing live, I'd say.

phungi

I understand the OP's post and opinion. I was also at BK 1&2 and PHL 1&2 and it was the first time in any multi-concert run that I can recall knowing what was coming next.

Of course we are STILL talking about the premier touring band, and we are STILL talking about amazing live experiences, but that does not detract from the fact that you can predict when and in what sequence certain songs are played (e.g., Pendulum to open, LB->MYM, Porch to close set or encore, with Eddie climbing onto light).

An accurate observation...

Eraserhead

I guessed the shows would end with a song, and I was right!

Where do I go for my refund? :x

fortyshades

SVRDhand13 wrote:

That was like 7 songs you mentioned out of shows with 34 songs (BK had 31).

Here's what was not predictable:

- Chloe/Crown in main set
- Oceans to open encore
- Brain of J and Hail Hail not in very beginning of set
- 1/2 Full
- A ten song first encore
- Eruption
- Sleight of Hand
- Parachutes
- Leaving Here
- Amongst the Waves
- Satan's Bed
- Untitled --> MFC
- DTE --> Go --> Porch
- All those Yesterdays!!!!

And all those songs in predictable slots are fantastic every time

You are forgetting Other Side (10/15)!!! How many times have they played that song?

JimmyV

fortyshades wrote:

You are forgetting Other Side (10/15)!!! How many times have they played that song?

2...but it was completely predictable they would play it in Worcester.

SVRDhand13

fortyshades wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

That was like 7 songs you mentioned out of shows with 34 songs (BK had 31).

Here's what was not predictable:

- Chloe/Crown in main set
- Oceans to open encore
- Brain of J and Hail Hail not in very beginning of set
- 1/2 Full
- A ten song first encore
- Eruption
- Sleight of Hand
- Parachutes
- Leaving Here
- Amongst the Waves
- Satan's Bed
- Untitled --> MFC
- DTE --> Go --> Porch
- All those Yesterdays!!!!

And all those songs in predictable slots are fantastic every time

You are forgetting Other Side (10/15)!!! How many times have they played that song?

I only included BK and Philly because those are the shows mentioned in the original post

fortyshades

JimmyV wrote:

fortyshades wrote:

You are forgetting Other Side (10/15)!!! How many times have they played that song?

2...but it was completely predictable they would play it in Worcester.

Mmmmm, this tickles my imagination...

SVRDhand13 wrote:

fortyshades wrote:

SVRDhand13 wrote:

That was like 7 songs you mentioned out of shows with 34 songs (BK had 31).

Here's what was not predictable:

- Chloe/Crown in main set
- Oceans to open encore
- Brain of J and Hail Hail not in very beginning of set
- 1/2 Full
- A ten song first encore
- Eruption
- Sleight of Hand
- Parachutes
- Leaving Here
- Amongst the Waves
- Satan's Bed
- Untitled --> MFC
- DTE --> Go --> Porch
- All those Yesterdays!!!!

And all those songs in predictable slots are fantastic every time

You are forgetting Other Side (10/15)!!! How many times have they played that song?

I only included BK and Philly because those are the shows mentioned in the original post

Aaaahhh, I see. Still, am I the only one buzzed that they played Other Side? That is one of my favourite song! If they would play that in Europe, I will be in the stratosphere. That and Tremor Christ.

JimmyV

fortyshades wrote:

Still, am I the only one buzzed that they played Other Side?

It blew my mind. There is a great youtube clip of this floating around where you can see Stone turn to Eddie at the end with a smile and "Wow!"

Indifference152

Only complaint....open with a rocker once in a while.