** YOUR PHILADELPHIA EAGLES -VICTORS OF THE LAST ENTERTAINING SUPER BOWL **

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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,298
    edited December 2018
    pjhawks said:
    I doubt the report that they hid the severity of the injury from him. But if he has been experiencing pain since October, why haven't they at least they given him a little rest? Why would they have kept him in the entire Saints game? And why are they continuing to call RPO's for him?
    because you have to establish the run!!! - that was too easy :blush:

    i just can't see a way they hid the injury from him. a back injury no less.  that would be malpractice at it's finest.  they might be incompetent but can't imagine they would stoop that low.

    hopefully this whole situation doesn't sour Wentz on the franchise.  Oh and hopefully he get's fully healthy for next year.  Zero reason to put him back in this year. 
    Better ways to establish the run than running it with an injured qb. I know you were making a joke but...fell kinda flat.
    you are flat.

    so now crazy thing is how do the Eagles treat Foles after this year.  The initial thought was to let him walk in free agency but with Wentz having a bad knee and bad back do you have to consider bringing Foles back.  Can you afford him and/or will he take less to stay?  Gotta think the Redskins would be interested if Smith's career is over.  
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    If the Eagles win out and Foles leads them to back to back Super Bowls, they should disband the franchise immediately. Pull a Constanza and go out on the highest of possible notes. Literally nothing would ever be able to top that story. 
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  • If the Eagles win out and Foles leads them to back to back Super Bowls, they should disband the franchise immediately. Pull a Constanza and go out on the highest of possible notes. Literally nothing would ever be able to top that story. 
    Rematch against the pats, tying the score at 40 and with less than two minutes to play, sacking Brady in the end zone for a safety? C’mon, you know that would top your story.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    If the Eagles win out and Foles leads them to back to back Super Bowls, they should disband the franchise immediately. Pull a Constanza and go out on the highest of possible notes. Literally nothing would ever be able to top that story. 
    Rematch against the pats, tying the score at 40 and with less than two minutes to play, sacking Brady in the end zone for a safety? C’mon, you know that would top your story.
    I wouldn’t care who it’s against. 
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  • If the Eagles win out and Foles leads them to back to back Super Bowls, they should disband the franchise immediately. Pull a Constanza and go out on the highest of possible notes. Literally nothing would ever be able to top that story. 
    Rematch against the pats, tying the score at 40 and with less than two minutes to play, sacking Brady in the end zone for a safety? C’mon, you know that would top your story.
    I wouldn’t care who it’s against. 
    That’s flat.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    If the Eagles win out and Foles leads them to back to back Super Bowls, they should disband the franchise immediately. Pull a Constanza and go out on the highest of possible notes. Literally nothing would ever be able to top that story. 
    Rematch against the pats, tying the score at 40 and with less than two minutes to play, sacking Brady in the end zone for a safety? C’mon, you know that would top your story.
    I wouldn’t care who it’s against. 
    That’s flat.
    We've already done the Patriots. Beating the cross state rivals would be cooler at this point. 
    You're missing the point of this though. 
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,298
    Watching Chargers-Chiefs last night I don't know how it's possible the Chargers scored 15 points in 7 minutes of offensive play throwing the ball 17 out of 19 plays.  where's the balance?  where's the 2.4 yards per carry to keep them honest?  didn't think it was possible to throw that much and score.....oh wait, that's right is almost impossible to stop a good passing team in todays' NFL. whoops happens every game. never mind.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    edited December 2018
    pjhawks said:
    Watching Chargers-Chiefs last night I don't know how it's possible the Chargers scored 15 points in 7 minutes of offensive play throwing the ball 17 out of 19 plays.  where's the balance?  where's the 2.4 yards per carry to keep them honest?  didn't think it was possible to throw that much and score.....oh wait, that's right is almost impossible to stop a good passing team in todays' NFL. whoops happens every game. never mind.
    https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chiefs-defense-collapses-in-4th-quarter-against-chargers-121418

    Despite being behind all game, the Chargers still ran ball 24 times with the majority of the carries going to their third string, rookie, 7th round pick running back. That's right. Both of their two top running backs were out and the Chargers still maintained balance despite trailing most of the game.

    For the year the Chargers have a very balanced 57/43 pass/run ratio.

    Thanks for bringing this up for the 10 millionth time. Below is some light reading to more familiarize yourself with American football:
    http://www.chick101footballforgirls.com/p/basic-rules-101.html
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,253
    edited December 2018
    Gonna be at the party tonight and I assume that stupid trophy will be there.  May have to trip and bump it over.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,298
    pjhawks said:
    Watching Chargers-Chiefs last night I don't know how it's possible the Chargers scored 15 points in 7 minutes of offensive play throwing the ball 17 out of 19 plays.  where's the balance?  where's the 2.4 yards per carry to keep them honest?  didn't think it was possible to throw that much and score.....oh wait, that's right is almost impossible to stop a good passing team in todays' NFL. whoops happens every game. never mind.
    https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chiefs-defense-collapses-in-4th-quarter-against-chargers-121418

    Despite being behind all game, the Chargers still ran ball 24 times with the majority of the carries going to their third string, rookie, 7th round pick running back. That's right. Both of their two top running backs were out and the Chargers still maintained balance despite trailing most of the game.

    For the year the Chargers have a very balanced 57/43 pass/run ratio.

    Thanks for bringing this up for the 10 millionth time. Below is some light reading to more familiarize yourself with American football:
    http://www.chick101footballforgirls.com/p/basic-rules-101.html
    14 points in 3+ quarters with 50/50 run-pass split.  15 points in 7 minutes with 89.5% passing plays.  simple math big guy. simple math.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,298
    edited December 2018
    Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 
    only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

    Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 15,629
    Gonna be at the party tonight and I assume that stupid trophy will be there.  May have to trip and bump it over.
    Have you seen one of the rings, in person, yet?  Holy shitballs.  Impressive.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,253
    Gonna be at the party tonight and I assume that stupid trophy will be there.  May have to trip and bump it over.
    Have you seen one of the rings, in person, yet?  Holy shitballs.  Impressive.
    I have not. I am sure one of those will be there too.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    edited December 2018
    pjhawks said:
    Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 
    only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

    Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?
    You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


    Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


    edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
    http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,253
    Isn't that basically what Chip Kelly did?
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South PhillyPosts: 11,472
    Isn't that basically what Chip Kelly did?
    Haha, I was gonna say.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    Isn't that basically what Chip Kelly did?
    Haha, I was gonna say.
    The irony is rich. Chip always had balance with his fast pace offense but, yeah, he didn't care about time of possession which was a fatal flaw. 
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South JerseyPosts: 7,007
    Isn't that basically what Chip Kelly did?
    Haha, I was gonna say.
    The irony is rich. Chip always had balance with his fast pace offense but, yeah, he didn't care about time of possession which was a fatal flaw. 
    Don't forget about the flaw in which you get rid of all your very good skill players. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    JK_Livin said:
    Isn't that basically what Chip Kelly did?
    Haha, I was gonna say.
    The irony is rich. Chip always had balance with his fast pace offense but, yeah, he didn't care about time of possession which was a fatal flaw. 
    Don't forget about the flaw in which you get rid of all your very good skill players. 
    He should never have been given that much control in the first place
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 15,629
    JK_Livin said:
    Isn't that basically what Chip Kelly did?
    Haha, I was gonna say.
    The irony is rich. Chip always had balance with his fast pace offense but, yeah, he didn't care about time of possession which was a fatal flaw. 
    Don't forget about the flaw in which you get rid of all your very good skill players. 
    Or where you spend more time eating than gameplanning.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,298
    edited December 2018
    pjhawks said:
    Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 
    only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

    Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?
    You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


    Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


    edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
    http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/
    When did I ever say they say they should run the 2 minute drill all game? never once said that. Just believe they should pass a lot more than they do. You don't have to go uptempo to throw the ball.

    And I think against certain teams and QBs they should be dropping 8 or 9 into pass coverage. We had this argument before when you tried to tell me the Patriots were winning because of Steven Ridley and not Tom Brady.  Every time a team with a really good or better QB runs the ball with a running back it's a win for the defense. Almost 100% it's better for the D when you run. Only when killing the clock is it better for the offense to run the ball.  It's just not even debatable in today's NFL. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    edited December 2018
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 
    only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

    Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?
    You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


    Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


    edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
    http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/
    When did I ever say they say they should run the 2 minute drill all game? never once said that. Just believe they should pass a lot more than they do. You don't have to go uptempo to throw the ball.

    And I think against certain teams and QBs they should be dropping 8 or 9 into pass coverage. We had this argument before when you tried to tell me the Patriots were winning because of Steven Ridley and not Tom Brady.  Every time a team with a really good or better QB runs the ball with a running back it's a win for the defense. Almost 100% it's better for the D when you run. Only when killing the clock is it better for the offense to run the ball.  It's just not even debatable in today's NFL. 
    You keep wondering why offenses have success at the end of halves and games and are suggesting they run that offense during the entire game. That's the 2 minute drill they're running. 

    Never said the Pats won because of Stephen Ridley. The Patriots, by far the most successful team of this century with one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, are a great example of why winning teams do not put EVERYTHING on their quarterback's shoulders. They've always had a balanced 60/40-ish attack and those runs are not coming only at the end of the game when they are killing the clock.
    For example:
    In the first half of all games this year, the Pats have a 61/39 pass/run ratio
    In the first half of all games last year, the Pats had a 62/38 pass/run ratio
    In the first half of all games in 2016, the Pats had a 59/41 pass/run ratio

    This is with, possibly, the greatest quarterback of all time. Having a semblance of balance to your game plan is how you win football games consistently, year in, year out. This has not changed since this argument began in 2010 when you wanted the Eagles to throw it 80% with Mike Vick. 

    Beat it, Liz.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,298
    edited December 2018
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 
    only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

    Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?
    You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


    Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


    edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
    http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/
    When did I ever say they say they should run the 2 minute drill all game? never once said that. Just believe they should pass a lot more than they do. You don't have to go uptempo to throw the ball.

    And I think against certain teams and QBs they should be dropping 8 or 9 into pass coverage. We had this argument before when you tried to tell me the Patriots were winning because of Steven Ridley and not Tom Brady.  Every time a team with a really good or better QB runs the ball with a running back it's a win for the defense. Almost 100% it's better for the D when you run. Only when killing the clock is it better for the offense to run the ball.  It's just not even debatable in today's NFL. 
    You keep wondering why offenses have success at the end of halves and games and are suggesting they run that offense during the entire game. That's the 2 minute drill they're running. 

    Never said the Pats won because of Stephen Ridley. The Patriots, by far the most successful team of this century with one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, are a great example of why winning teams do not put EVERYTHING on their quarterback's shoulders. They've always had a balanced 60/40-ish attack and those runs are not coming only at the end of the game when they are killing the clock.
    For example:
    In the first half of all games this year, the Pats have a 61/39 pass/run ratio
    In the first half of all games last year, the Pats had a 62/38 pass/run ratio
    In the first half of all games in 2016, the Pats had a 59/41 pass/run ratio

    This is with, possibly, the greatest quarterback of all time. Having a semblance of balance to your game plan is how you win football games consistently, year in, year out. This has not changed since this argument began in 2010 when you wanted the Eagles to throw it 80% with Mike Vick. 

    Beat it, Liz.
    I don't wonder why they have success at the end of the halves, I KNOW why they have success. It's not the tempo or the timing it's the plays.  pass pass pass.   you pass with a good QB you move the ball. not complicated. why can't you get that through your head?

    Anyway nice to revert to name calling.  most of us grew out of that by high school.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 33,438
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 
    only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

    Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?
    You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


    Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


    edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
    http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/
    When did I ever say they say they should run the 2 minute drill all game? never once said that. Just believe they should pass a lot more than they do. You don't have to go uptempo to throw the ball.

    And I think against certain teams and QBs they should be dropping 8 or 9 into pass coverage. We had this argument before when you tried to tell me the Patriots were winning because of Steven Ridley and not Tom Brady.  Every time a team with a really good or better QB runs the ball with a running back it's a win for the defense. Almost 100% it's better for the D when you run. Only when killing the clock is it better for the offense to run the ball.  It's just not even debatable in today's NFL. 
    You keep wondering why offenses have success at the end of halves and games and are suggesting they run that offense during the entire game. That's the 2 minute drill they're running. 

    Never said the Pats won because of Stephen Ridley. The Patriots, by far the most successful team of this century with one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, are a great example of why winning teams do not put EVERYTHING on their quarterback's shoulders. They've always had a balanced 60/40-ish attack and those runs are not coming only at the end of the game when they are killing the clock.
    For example:
    In the first half of all games this year, the Pats have a 61/39 pass/run ratio
    In the first half of all games last year, the Pats had a 62/38 pass/run ratio
    In the first half of all games in 2016, the Pats had a 59/41 pass/run ratio

    This is with, possibly, the greatest quarterback of all time. Having a semblance of balance to your game plan is how you win football games consistently, year in, year out. This has not changed since this argument began in 2010 when you wanted the Eagles to throw it 80% with Mike Vick. 

    Beat it, Liz.
    I don't wonder why they have success at the end of the halves, I KNOW why they have success. It's not the tempo or the timing it's the plays.  pass pass pass.   you pass with a good QB you move the ball. not complicated. why can't you get that through your head?

    Anyway nice to revert to name calling.  most of us grew out of that by high school.
    Even the arena league doesn’t pass the ball as often as you’re suggesting NFL teams do on a regular basis. There has never been logic to back up your claims and there never will, Liz. 
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,298
    pjhawks said:
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    pjhawks said:
    Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 
    only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

    Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?
    You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


    Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


    edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
    http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/
    When did I ever say they say they should run the 2 minute drill all game? never once said that. Just believe they should pass a lot more than they do. You don't have to go uptempo to throw the ball.

    And I think against certain teams and QBs they should be dropping 8 or 9 into pass coverage. We had this argument before when you tried to tell me the Patriots were winning because of Steven Ridley and not Tom Brady.  Every time a team with a really good or better QB runs the ball with a running back it's a win for the defense. Almost 100% it's better for the D when you run. Only when killing the clock is it better for the offense to run the ball.  It's just not even debatable in today's NFL. 
    You keep wondering why offenses have success at the end of halves and games and are suggesting they run that offense during the entire game. That's the 2 minute drill they're running. 

    Never said the Pats won because of Stephen Ridley. The Patriots, by far the most successful team of this century with one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, are a great example of why winning teams do not put EVERYTHING on their quarterback's shoulders. They've always had a balanced 60/40-ish attack and those runs are not coming only at the end of the game when they are killing the clock.
    For example:
    In the first half of all games this year, the Pats have a 61/39 pass/run ratio
    In the first half of all games last year, the Pats had a 62/38 pass/run ratio
    In the first half of all games in 2016, the Pats had a 59/41 pass/run ratio

    This is with, possibly, the greatest quarterback of all time. Having a semblance of balance to your game plan is how you win football games consistently, year in, year out. This has not changed since this argument began in 2010 when you wanted the Eagles to throw it 80% with Mike Vick. 

    Beat it, Liz.
    I don't wonder why they have success at the end of the halves, I KNOW why they have success. It's not the tempo or the timing it's the plays.  pass pass pass.   you pass with a good QB you move the ball. not complicated. why can't you get that through your head?

    Anyway nice to revert to name calling.  most of us grew out of that by high school.
    Even the arena league doesn’t pass the ball as often as you’re suggesting NFL teams do on a regular basis. There has never been logic to back up your claims and there never will, Liz. 
    Just because no one does it is NOT a reason not to do it.   

    remember the days when teams in the NBA rarely took 3s?  now it's the most important aspect of the game.

    remember when fighting was important in hockey? now it's rarely done.

    remember when you and others cared about strikeouts in baseball (but Ryan strikes out too much) - now it's accepted as the norm.




  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,253
    Kelce was my party. He sang that song. People liked it. Our ceo made him speak longer than he expected and it was hilarious and awkward 
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,253
    God dammit. Was hoping this wasn’t gonna be a game and to get some sleep 
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 15,629
    Got the martinis going, expect this to come down to the wire.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,253
    I can go to sleep
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