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Cheo RamirezCheo Ramirez Posts: 676
edited July 2012 in The Porch
I think this is the best PJ/crowd performance in the history....
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,810
    So do I... but I'm biased 8-)
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    IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,637
    I like tweeter center 08 better and I was at both.

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    SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,165
    Cheo Ramirez wrote:
    I think this is the best PJ/crowd performance in the history....
    I did too, until DTE in Prague.... Can't wait for the boot to come out so I can compare! :D
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    Indi4enceIndi4ence Posts: 947
    Cheo Ramirez wrote:
    I think this is the best PJ/crowd performance in the history....

    It really was AMAZING!!!.....it just kept getting louder and louder and louder. I get chills when i hear it on the boot
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    megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    fun night. seemed like every song was like that
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    FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,095
    I have to respectfully disagree and nominate In Hiding at Philly 3 '09.

    When this song started, I thought "not betterman again.."
    But when this song ended, I was very happy with the energy level.
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    Cheo RamirezCheo Ramirez Posts: 676
    well im expecting doing MSG for 2013 (hoping US TOUR as TB confirmation),im getting older and want to experienced that one.

    heard prague was intense.

    im not totally fan of betterman but its amazing everytime the crowds on it
    Santiago I 2005
    Santiago II 2005
    West Palm Beach 2008
    Alpine Valley PJ20 I 2011
    Alpine Valley PJ 20 II 2011
    Santiago 2011
    Lima 2011
    Buenos Aires 2013
    Brooklyn I 2013
    Brooklyn II 2013
    Santiago 2015
    Bogota 2015
    Ft Lauderdale 2016
    Miami 2016
    Rio de Janeiro 2018
    Boston 2 2018
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    great moments....
    but Buenos Aires came to my mind when i read the word "Best"
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,165
    Cheo Ramirez wrote:
    heard prague was intense.
    I wouldn't say it was intense. Berlin 1&2 was intense. Prague was perfect :) Great crowd energy, you could jump up and down and not fall over, no one was pushing in the pit. Band was happy, everyone smiling. During DTE, the crowd started "oh oh-ing" the guitar part right before "Admire me, admire my clothes...." and when they left the stage briefly for the encore, we continued until they came back on stage. The band loved it so much that they did DTE at every show after that, but it was not quite the same. Everyone was so in sync in Prague!

    Amazing. :mrgreen:
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    btw if u mean this one,i guess you know isnt only from MSG the shooting..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4BObpNQqNo
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,810
    FrankieG wrote:
    I have to respectfully disagree and nominate In Hiding at Philly 3 '09.

    When this song started, I thought "not betterman again.."
    But when this song ended, I was very happy with the energy level.

    Another great one. I fell in love with this song after that night, but...

    there's a reason MSG's Betterman was put on PJ20
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    Suziemay wrote:
    Cheo Ramirez wrote:
    heard prague was intense.
    I wouldn't say it was intense. Berlin 1&2 was intense. Prague was perfect :) Great crowd energy, you could jump up and down and not fall over, no one was pushing in the pit. Band was happy, everyone smiling. During DTE, the crowd started "oh oh-ing" the guitar part right before "Admire me, admire my clothes...." and when they left the stage briefly for the encore, we continued until they came back on stage. The band loved it so much that they did DTE at every show after that, but it was not quite the same. Everyone was so in sync in Prague!

    Amazing. :mrgreen:
    after Berlin and Lisbon,Prague is the 3rd city at Europe that im not loosing again a show there..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    GivenToJam88GivenToJam88 NJ Posts: 1,187
    Boston 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNha47qoheA

    The crowd is so good that Eddie has to wipe away a tear at about 1:30!
    2006: 5/28
    2008: 6/19, 6/24, 6/25
    2009: 6/14 (EV), 10/27, 10/28
    2010: 5/17
    2011: 6/21 (EV), 6/22 (EV), 9/11, 9/12
    2012: 9/2
    2013: 10/15, 10/16, 10/19, 10/21, 10/22, 10/27, 11/23, 11/24
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    megatronmegatron Posts: 3,420
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    FrankieG wrote:
    I have to respectfully disagree and nominate In Hiding at Philly 3 '09.

    When this song started, I thought "not betterman again.."
    But when this song ended, I was very happy with the energy level.

    Another great one. I fell in love with this song after that night, but...

    there's a reason MSG's Betterman was put on PJ20

    they slipped in shots from bonnaroo on pj20 too. all those lighters in a field was amazing. my favorite betterman

    lots of b-roo talk from me lately
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    Dirty FrankkDirty Frankk Posts: 4,274
    Suziemay wrote:
    Cheo Ramirez wrote:
    I think this is the best PJ/crowd performance in the history....
    I did too, until DTE in Prague.... Can't wait for the boot to come out so I can compare! :D

    I agree...that was something amazing...now I love again DTE ;)

    And btw that clip of betterman from MSG is not all MSG, there are parts in that clip from Europe to.
    Not sure about sound but the film/video is mix of different performance.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,810
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Boston 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNha47qoheA

    The crowd is so good that Eddie has to wipe away a tear at about 1:30!

    Eddie: "It was sweat! I swear"
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    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
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    Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    Amazing night
    2008 - MSG 6/24-6/25
    2010 - Newark 5/18 MSG 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 9/3-9/4
    2012 - MIA Festival 9/2
    2013 - Wrigley Field 7/19 Brooklyn 10/18-10/19 Philly 10/22
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    SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,165
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Boston 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNha47qoheA

    The crowd is so good that Eddie has to wipe away a tear at about 1:30!
    Ed wiped a tear (or sweat) at MSG too!

    I do love the Boston 2010 boot as well, though, sounds like it was a pretty awesome show too! I wasn't there...
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    Dirty Frankk wrote:
    Suziemay wrote:
    Cheo Ramirez wrote:
    I think this is the best PJ/crowd performance in the history....
    I did too, until DTE in Prague.... Can't wait for the boot to come out so I can compare! :D

    I agree...that was something amazing...now I love again DTE ;)

    And btw that clip of betterman from MSG is not all MSG, there are parts in that clip from Europe to.
    Not sure about sound but the film/video is mix of different performance.
    DTE is the New Alive..will be played at every show.. :mrgreen:
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Boston 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNha47qoheA

    The crowd is so good that Eddie has to wipe away a tear at about 1:30!
    one of the reasons Boston is my favo 2010 usa bootleg ,the crowd is amazing
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    twisted thoughtstwisted thoughts Posts: 4,374
    Indifference wrote:
    I like tweeter center 08 better and I was at both.

    6/28/08 Mansfield, MA
    that shit was CRAZY!
    Crowd singing the whole intro without Eddie... the long pause... the whole crowd screaming and slamming on their seats. what a strange feeling that was...being there.
    you could see Eddie was amazed with the crowd. it seemed, there, it brought a tear to his eye. he looked back to Matt in amazement.
    the boot definitely does not do that version justice
    just did a quick search and there are no decent quality videos either :(
    this was the best i could find...shit gets crazy around the 1:00 mark
    http://youtu.be/aHnI5QqrBXw
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,810
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Boston 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNha47qoheA

    The crowd is so good that Eddie has to wipe away a tear at about 1:30!
    one of the reasons Boston is my favo 2010 usa bootleg ,the crowd is amazing

    There's only one reason I am jealous of the Boston show (as a person who attended the next three shows that tour)... Soldier of Love! :cry:
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    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17

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    GivenToJam88GivenToJam88 NJ Posts: 1,187
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Boston 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNha47qoheA

    The crowd is so good that Eddie has to wipe away a tear at about 1:30!
    one of the reasons Boston is my favo 2010 usa bootleg ,the crowd is amazing

    I could barely hear the opening chords to Release. The crowd was legit the loudest i have ever heard at a show.
    2006: 5/28
    2008: 6/19, 6/24, 6/25
    2009: 6/14 (EV), 10/27, 10/28
    2010: 5/17
    2011: 6/21 (EV), 6/22 (EV), 9/11, 9/12
    2012: 9/2
    2013: 10/15, 10/16, 10/19, 10/21, 10/22, 10/27, 11/23, 11/24
    2014: 10/19
    2016: 5/1, 5/2, 5/8
    2018: 8/20, 9/2, 9/4
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    GivenToJam88GivenToJam88 NJ Posts: 1,187
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Boston 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNha47qoheA

    The crowd is so good that Eddie has to wipe away a tear at about 1:30!
    one of the reasons Boston is my favo 2010 usa bootleg ,the crowd is amazing

    There's only one reason I am jealous of the Boston show (as a person who attended the next three shows that tour)... Soldier of Love! :cry:

    You obviously saw 3 tremendous shows but theres more than just that to be jealous of: Pilate, Rival, Smile, Crown of Thorns, Sad, Undone, Push Me Pull Me, and all the other songs that were played that night!
    2006: 5/28
    2008: 6/19, 6/24, 6/25
    2009: 6/14 (EV), 10/27, 10/28
    2010: 5/17
    2011: 6/21 (EV), 6/22 (EV), 9/11, 9/12
    2012: 9/2
    2013: 10/15, 10/16, 10/19, 10/21, 10/22, 10/27, 11/23, 11/24
    2014: 10/19
    2016: 5/1, 5/2, 5/8
    2018: 8/20, 9/2, 9/4
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,810
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    There's only one reason I am jealous of the Boston show (as a person who attended the next three shows that tour)... Soldier of Love! :cry:

    You obviously saw 3 tremendous shows but theres more than just that to be jealous of: Pilate, Rival, Smile, Crown of Thorns, Sad, Undone, Push Me Pull Me, and all the other songs that were played that night!

    But I have heard all of those songs that you just mentioned before except Rival, which I am not that fond of- still have not heard Soldier of Love which I absolutely LOVE
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    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17

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    GivenToJam88GivenToJam88 NJ Posts: 1,187
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    There's only one reason I am jealous of the Boston show (as a person who attended the next three shows that tour)... Soldier of Love! :cry:

    You obviously saw 3 tremendous shows but theres more than just that to be jealous of: Pilate, Rival, Smile, Crown of Thorns, Sad, Undone, Push Me Pull Me, and all the other songs that were played that night!

    But I have heard all of those songs that you just mentioned before except Rival, which I am not that fond of- still have not heard Soldier of Love which I absolutely LOVE

    Fair point. but damn, u gotta get on the Rival train, its a killer song.
    2006: 5/28
    2008: 6/19, 6/24, 6/25
    2009: 6/14 (EV), 10/27, 10/28
    2010: 5/17
    2011: 6/21 (EV), 6/22 (EV), 9/11, 9/12
    2012: 9/2
    2013: 10/15, 10/16, 10/19, 10/21, 10/22, 10/27, 11/23, 11/24
    2014: 10/19
    2016: 5/1, 5/2, 5/8
    2018: 8/20, 9/2, 9/4
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Boston 2010: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNha47qoheA

    The crowd is so good that Eddie has to wipe away a tear at about 1:30!
    one of the reasons Boston is my favo 2010 usa bootleg ,the crowd is amazing

    I could barely hear the opening chords to Release. The crowd was legit the loudest i have ever heard at a show.
    same must happen at,In my tree .Small town and Bee girl,Crown of thorns
    u can get it from the bootleg..crowd was so wild...
    and the setlist that night one of the best ever..especially the second Encore..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,810
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Fair point. but damn, u gotta get on the Rival train, its a killer song.

    I will give Binaural another listen tonight and get back to you :)
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    2006: Gorge 7/23 2008: Hartford 6/27 Beacon 7/1 2009: Spectrum 10/30-31
    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
    2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
    2022: MSG 9/11  2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17

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    GivenToJam88GivenToJam88 NJ Posts: 1,187
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Fair point. but damn, u gotta get on the Rival train, its a killer song.

    I will give Binaural another listen tonight and get back to you :)

    haha, word, i look forward to hearing
    2006: 5/28
    2008: 6/19, 6/24, 6/25
    2009: 6/14 (EV), 10/27, 10/28
    2010: 5/17
    2011: 6/21 (EV), 6/22 (EV), 9/11, 9/12
    2012: 9/2
    2013: 10/15, 10/16, 10/19, 10/21, 10/22, 10/27, 11/23, 11/24
    2014: 10/19
    2016: 5/1, 5/2, 5/8
    2018: 8/20, 9/2, 9/4
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    Jeremys SpokenJeremys Spoken Posts: 7,578
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    GivenToJam88 wrote:
    Fair point. but damn, u gotta get on the Rival train, its a killer song.

    I will give Binaural another listen tonight and get back to you :)
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    2008 - MSG 6/24-6/25
    2010 - Newark 5/18 MSG 5/21
    2011 - PJ20 9/3-9/4
    2012 - MIA Festival 9/2
    2013 - Wrigley Field 7/19 Brooklyn 10/18-10/19 Philly 10/22
    2015 - Colbert show - 9/23 Global Citizens Festival 9/26
    2016 - Philly 4/28-4/29 MSG 5/1-5/2



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