Gotta go with the 3-2-1-0 points system. It is so silly and imbalanced right now that you have regular season games weighted 50% more than other games. And its many games that get weighted more, creating a benefit for going to OT a lot. Its my biggest gripe with the current NHL.
Puck over the glass is dumb too. There was nothing wrong with making the delay of game there at the discretion of the referees. The NHL so desperately wants to create black and white rules when it isn't really that kind of sport. Throw video review into the fire unless you need to determine if the puck went over the goal line.
As far as Bettman goes. There is good and bad. Ultimately though, he is, and always has been the greasy lawyer frontman for the NHL's Board of Governors, and if it werent him, it would be another greasy lawyer type who would be doing the same exact bidding of the same wealthy owners (and taking all the heat).
He took over at a pivoting point for pro sports, and maybe particularly the NHL. Much of that pivoting was toward money and expansion and TV contracts. They took away the cool Division names in favor of East, West, etc. We had USA/Canada vs The World all star games. New buildings in pretty much every single market, including a lot of relocation. Money, money, money poured in and players became more and more their own 'brands'.
You lost a lot of the raw unpredictability and emotion that hockey brought. Partially due to the players risking too much... but mainly due to what we now know of concussions and the lawsuits that come from that. You also have players that are much, much bigger, stronger, and quicker than they were in the 70s and 80s, and early 90s, and they do severe damage when they punch faces/heads more often. Back in the day, we may have a couple guys who are 6' 190 pounds duking it out.... now we have players well over 6 feet, well over 200 pounds and on all sorts of 21st century nutritional, training, and supplement regimens. If anything, I believe that Bettman/the NHL has done the best job they could have possibly done to sit on the fence, allow fighting, but pretend just enough to be against it.
At this time, with the NHL Board of Governors and Bettman, there is almost zero forward thinking going on. The players are all giants, faster, more efficient, and better coached than ever, with 4 referees on the same playing surface size they used 150 years ago. Not saying they need to go international size, but space is needed. NHL games are boring slogs of robot players waiting for the other team to make a mistake.... and if there isnt an offsides challenge, we may see a goal at that point.
I also think they really have needed to lean in on the popularity the sport has in Europe and parts of Asia. Its an advantage the NHL enjoys over most of our other sports and every year is a year wasted, while other sports seem to be pressing harder in those areas. Im not talking "Europe Series" where the Sabres and Tampa Bay play a game in Germany... which is fine. IMO they should be trying to plan a mid/during-the-season tournament with NHL teams and include some Euro teams or KHL teams much like Euro soccer does. That would fast-track the European Expansion that has been rumored since Gretzky went to LA. Eventually, I think you would have a Division/Conference out there, and Im sure a lot of European players would desire to play there. True international competition. You could have Tampa Bay vs Russia for the Stanley Cup where everyone is tuning in rooting for Tampa Bay to keep the cup here.
The only international hockey that is interesting is the Olympics. And that’s because it means something to the players. There will never be an overseas league that competes for the Cup…for one there is only a handful of countries that play hockey at an elite level.
If those players from the past had access to the same coaching, training, dietary needs, video, equipment etc they easily compete with today’s nhl players…do you think tiny people played the game years ago…lol. The greatest dynasty ever assembled, The Canadiens of the late 70’s had a d core that were all over 6’0…the big 3 Robinson, Savard and Lapointe all 6’3? Ken Dryden was 6’4”. The equipment of today makes today’s players look bigger…today’s equipment is like body armour.
put today’s players in the equipment that players wore in the 70’s. And let’s see how they fare.
Im quite confidant in saying the late 70’s Canadiens could have competed with today’s NHL…and May not win 6 in a decade, buyb4 in a decade, yes…
also The Canadiens of the late 70’s had the greatest GM (Sam Pollick) and coach (Scotty Bowman), so they would have been able to manage the ridiculous salary cap.
Goal scoring is down because of the equipment the players wear today…
Wow. This will be a huge hit on their cap for the next 4 years?
$4,743,588 $12,743,588 $14,743,588 $14,743,588
That put Minnesota into a tough spot. Those contracts are ridiculous...12 years, I think? I think 8 years is ridiculous as well. Teams put themselves in a bind...
Gotta go with the 3-2-1-0 points system. It is so silly and imbalanced right now that you have regular season games weighted 50% more than other games. And its many games that get weighted more, creating a benefit for going to OT a lot. Its my biggest gripe with the current NHL.
Puck over the glass is dumb too. There was nothing wrong with making the delay of game there at the discretion of the referees. The NHL so desperately wants to create black and white rules when it isn't really that kind of sport. Throw video review into the fire unless you need to determine if the puck went over the goal line.
As far as Bettman goes. There is good and bad. Ultimately though, he is, and always has been the greasy lawyer frontman for the NHL's Board of Governors, and if it werent him, it would be another greasy lawyer type who would be doing the same exact bidding of the same wealthy owners (and taking all the heat).
He took over at a pivoting point for pro sports, and maybe particularly the NHL. Much of that pivoting was toward money and expansion and TV contracts. They took away the cool Division names in favor of East, West, etc. We had USA/Canada vs The World all star games. New buildings in pretty much every single market, including a lot of relocation. Money, money, money poured in and players became more and more their own 'brands'.
You lost a lot of the raw unpredictability and emotion that hockey brought. Partially due to the players risking too much... but mainly due to what we now know of concussions and the lawsuits that come from that. You also have players that are much, much bigger, stronger, and quicker than they were in the 70s and 80s, and early 90s, and they do severe damage when they punch faces/heads more often. Back in the day, we may have a couple guys who are 6' 190 pounds duking it out.... now we have players well over 6 feet, well over 200 pounds and on all sorts of 21st century nutritional, training, and supplement regimens. If anything, I believe that Bettman/the NHL has done the best job they could have possibly done to sit on the fence, allow fighting, but pretend just enough to be against it.
At this time, with the NHL Board of Governors and Bettman, there is almost zero forward thinking going on. The players are all giants, faster, more efficient, and better coached than ever, with 4 referees on the same playing surface size they used 150 years ago. Not saying they need to go international size, but space is needed. NHL games are boring slogs of robot players waiting for the other team to make a mistake.... and if there isnt an offsides challenge, we may see a goal at that point.
I also think they really have needed to lean in on the popularity the sport has in Europe and parts of Asia. Its an advantage the NHL enjoys over most of our other sports and every year is a year wasted, while other sports seem to be pressing harder in those areas. Im not talking "Europe Series" where the Sabres and Tampa Bay play a game in Germany... which is fine. IMO they should be trying to plan a mid/during-the-season tournament with NHL teams and include some Euro teams or KHL teams much like Euro soccer does. That would fast-track the European Expansion that has been rumored since Gretzky went to LA. Eventually, I think you would have a Division/Conference out there, and Im sure a lot of European players would desire to play there. True international competition. You could have Tampa Bay vs Russia for the Stanley Cup where everyone is tuning in rooting for Tampa Bay to keep the cup here.
The only international hockey that is interesting is the Olympics. And that’s because it means something to the players. There will never be an overseas league that competes for the Cup…for one there is only a handful of countries that play hockey at an elite level.
If those players from the past had access to the same coaching, training, dietary needs, video, equipment etc they easily compete with today’s nhl players…do you think tiny people played the game years ago…lol. The greatest dynasty ever assembled, The Canadiens of the late 70’s had a d core that were all over 6’0…the big 3 Robinson, Savard and Lapointe all 6’3? Ken Dryden was 6’4”. The equipment of today makes today’s players look bigger…today’s equipment is like body armour.
put today’s players in the equipment that players wore in the 70’s. And let’s see how they fare.
Im quite confidant in saying the late 70’s Canadiens could have competed with today’s NHL…and May not win 6 in a decade, buyb4 in a decade, yes…
also The Canadiens of the late 70’s had the greatest GM (Sam Pollick) and coach (Scotty Bowman), so they would have been able to manage the ridiculous salary cap.
Goal scoring is down because of the equipment the players wear today…
Agree on equipment. Players block so many shots today, especially in playoffs, because the equipment has become so advanced.
Gotta go with the 3-2-1-0 points system. It is so silly and imbalanced right now that you have regular season games weighted 50% more than other games. And its many games that get weighted more, creating a benefit for going to OT a lot. Its my biggest gripe with the current NHL.
Puck over the glass is dumb too. There was nothing wrong with making the delay of game there at the discretion of the referees. The NHL so desperately wants to create black and white rules when it isn't really that kind of sport. Throw video review into the fire unless you need to determine if the puck went over the goal line.
As far as Bettman goes. There is good and bad. Ultimately though, he is, and always has been the greasy lawyer frontman for the NHL's Board of Governors, and if it werent him, it would be another greasy lawyer type who would be doing the same exact bidding of the same wealthy owners (and taking all the heat).
He took over at a pivoting point for pro sports, and maybe particularly the NHL. Much of that pivoting was toward money and expansion and TV contracts. They took away the cool Division names in favor of East, West, etc. We had USA/Canada vs The World all star games. New buildings in pretty much every single market, including a lot of relocation. Money, money, money poured in and players became more and more their own 'brands'.
You lost a lot of the raw unpredictability and emotion that hockey brought. Partially due to the players risking too much... but mainly due to what we now know of concussions and the lawsuits that come from that. You also have players that are much, much bigger, stronger, and quicker than they were in the 70s and 80s, and early 90s, and they do severe damage when they punch faces/heads more often. Back in the day, we may have a couple guys who are 6' 190 pounds duking it out.... now we have players well over 6 feet, well over 200 pounds and on all sorts of 21st century nutritional, training, and supplement regimens. If anything, I believe that Bettman/the NHL has done the best job they could have possibly done to sit on the fence, allow fighting, but pretend just enough to be against it.
At this time, with the NHL Board of Governors and Bettman, there is almost zero forward thinking going on. The players are all giants, faster, more efficient, and better coached than ever, with 4 referees on the same playing surface size they used 150 years ago. Not saying they need to go international size, but space is needed. NHL games are boring slogs of robot players waiting for the other team to make a mistake.... and if there isnt an offsides challenge, we may see a goal at that point.
I also think they really have needed to lean in on the popularity the sport has in Europe and parts of Asia. Its an advantage the NHL enjoys over most of our other sports and every year is a year wasted, while other sports seem to be pressing harder in those areas. Im not talking "Europe Series" where the Sabres and Tampa Bay play a game in Germany... which is fine. IMO they should be trying to plan a mid/during-the-season tournament with NHL teams and include some Euro teams or KHL teams much like Euro soccer does. That would fast-track the European Expansion that has been rumored since Gretzky went to LA. Eventually, I think you would have a Division/Conference out there, and Im sure a lot of European players would desire to play there. True international competition. You could have Tampa Bay vs Russia for the Stanley Cup where everyone is tuning in rooting for Tampa Bay to keep the cup here.
do you think tiny people played the game years ago…lol. The greatest dynasty ever assembled, The Canadiens of the late 70’s had a d core that were all over 6’0…the big 3 Robinson, Savard and Lapointe all 6’3? Ken Dryden was 6’4”. The equipment of today makes today’s players look bigger…today’s equipment is like body armour.
Players have gotten taller and heavier since the NHL was 'good'. I would add again that they are much better conditioned, quicker, and efficient which bogs down the sport. The game has also skewed younger to keep up with the speed, which has actually made the size dip down slightly. Watching a game from the 70s, from your example, everyone has a lot of room and are generally slower, but it is a better sport to watch then IMO because it creates a lot more variance and excitement. Their 1st step is way behind what these guys do today. I do agree that equipment is a part of it. Goalies actually had to make saves instead of be in the right position to cut down the % chances the puck goes past him.
I love the direction of hockey today. Younger, faster, speed game is awesome. I wouldn't mind a few tweaks to open the game up just a touch, but in all I enjoy hockey more than ever.
I love the direction of hockey today. Younger, faster, speed game is awesome. I wouldn't mind a few tweaks to open the game up just a touch, but in all I enjoy hockey more than ever.
The NHL tried damn near everything under the sun to open the game up, get goal scoring up…what should they do now? Bigger ice surface. International hockey has big ice and can be boring as shit…
All that’s left is 4 on 4 for the entire game, reduce equipment size of both skaters and goalie and bring back the wood stick?
Goal scoring suffers because because of the size of the equipment.
Gotta go with the 3-2-1-0 points system. It is so silly and imbalanced right now that you have regular season games weighted 50% more than other games. And its many games that get weighted more, creating a benefit for going to OT a lot. Its my biggest gripe with the current NHL.
Puck over the glass is dumb too. There was nothing wrong with making the delay of game there at the discretion of the referees. The NHL so desperately wants to create black and white rules when it isn't really that kind of sport. Throw video review into the fire unless you need to determine if the puck went over the goal line.
As far as Bettman goes. There is good and bad. Ultimately though, he is, and always has been the greasy lawyer frontman for the NHL's Board of Governors, and if it werent him, it would be another greasy lawyer type who would be doing the same exact bidding of the same wealthy owners (and taking all the heat).
He took over at a pivoting point for pro sports, and maybe particularly the NHL. Much of that pivoting was toward money and expansion and TV contracts. They took away the cool Division names in favor of East, West, etc. We had USA/Canada vs The World all star games. New buildings in pretty much every single market, including a lot of relocation. Money, money, money poured in and players became more and more their own 'brands'.
You lost a lot of the raw unpredictability and emotion that hockey brought. Partially due to the players risking too much... but mainly due to what we now know of concussions and the lawsuits that come from that. You also have players that are much, much bigger, stronger, and quicker than they were in the 70s and 80s, and early 90s, and they do severe damage when they punch faces/heads more often. Back in the day, we may have a couple guys who are 6' 190 pounds duking it out.... now we have players well over 6 feet, well over 200 pounds and on all sorts of 21st century nutritional, training, and supplement regimens. If anything, I believe that Bettman/the NHL has done the best job they could have possibly done to sit on the fence, allow fighting, but pretend just enough to be against it.
At this time, with the NHL Board of Governors and Bettman, there is almost zero forward thinking going on. The players are all giants, faster, more efficient, and better coached than ever, with 4 referees on the same playing surface size they used 150 years ago. Not saying they need to go international size, but space is needed. NHL games are boring slogs of robot players waiting for the other team to make a mistake.... and if there isnt an offsides challenge, we may see a goal at that point.
I also think they really have needed to lean in on the popularity the sport has in Europe and parts of Asia. Its an advantage the NHL enjoys over most of our other sports and every year is a year wasted, while other sports seem to be pressing harder in those areas. Im not talking "Europe Series" where the Sabres and Tampa Bay play a game in Germany... which is fine. IMO they should be trying to plan a mid/during-the-season tournament with NHL teams and include some Euro teams or KHL teams much like Euro soccer does. That would fast-track the European Expansion that has been rumored since Gretzky went to LA. Eventually, I think you would have a Division/Conference out there, and Im sure a lot of European players would desire to play there. True international competition. You could have Tampa Bay vs Russia for the Stanley Cup where everyone is tuning in rooting for Tampa Bay to keep the cup here.
do you think tiny people played the game years ago…lol. The greatest dynasty ever assembled, The Canadiens of the late 70’s had a d core that were all over 6’0…the big 3 Robinson, Savard and Lapointe all 6’3? Ken Dryden was 6’4”. The equipment of today makes today’s players look bigger…today’s equipment is like body armour.
Players have gotten taller and heavier since the NHL was 'good'. I would add again that they are much better conditioned, quicker, and efficient which bogs down the sport. The game has also skewed younger to keep up with the speed, which has actually made the size dip down slightly. Watching a game from the 70s, from your example, everyone has a lot of room and are generally slower, but it is a better sport to watch then IMO because it creates a lot more variance and excitement. Their 1st step is way behind what these guys do today. I do agree that equipment is a part of it. Goalies actually had to make saves instead of be in the right position to cut down the % chances the puck goes past him.
I believe I stated that if the players had the advantages of today’s players, today’s player advantage would be nullified. The late 70s Canadiens were plenty big enough to compete in today’s NHL… I’d like to see a game between 2 nhl teams using older equipment…these brave guys today would be far less brave…have blocking shots.
I love the direction of hockey today. Younger, faster, speed game is awesome. I wouldn't mind a few tweaks to open the game up just a touch, but in all I enjoy hockey more than ever.
The NHL tried damn near everything under the sun to open the game up, get goal scoring up…what should they do now? Bigger ice surface. International hockey has big ice and can be boring as shit…
All that’s left is 4 on 4 for the entire game, reduce equipment size of both skaters and goalie and bring back the wood stick?
Goal scoring suffers because because of the size of the equipment.
You can do what the NFL does.. call defensive penalties tighter. You can call any check to the back in front of the crease as a cross, for example. That would either generate more PPs or keep people planted. Either way more goals. Now I know everyone criticizes the officials, but there are small ways to increase scoring by a 1/2 to full goal a game.
I love the direction of hockey today. Younger, faster, speed game is awesome. I wouldn't mind a few tweaks to open the game up just a touch, but in all I enjoy hockey more than ever.
The NHL tried damn near everything under the sun to open the game up, get goal scoring up…what should they do now? Bigger ice surface. International hockey has big ice and can be boring as shit…
All that’s left is 4 on 4 for the entire game, reduce equipment size of both skaters and goalie and bring back the wood stick?
Goal scoring suffers because because of the size of the equipment.
You can do what the NFL does.. call defensive penalties tighter. You can call any check to the back in front of the crease as a cross, for example. That would either generate more PPs or keep people planted. Either way more goals. Now I know everyone criticizes the officials, but there are small ways to increase scoring by a 1/2 to full goal a game.
The NHL GMs will be discussing cross checking…but we will see.
The NHL is never going to call the game by the book…tv dictates that. The nhl is no the nfl…the nfl owns a day of the week…tv does not care if nfl games are 2 hours or 4 hours…tv does not want nhl games going past 10 when a game starts at 7. Similarly is why they generally let a lot go in the playoffs…they have to take into account that OT could go 2/3 periods.
the nhl refs are the worst in professional sports. They fired a ref who admitted he should have favoured one team over the other…lol.
And most contenders PK can often neutralize the other teams PP.
Montreal’s PK neutralized all 4 teams PPs they faced. Toronto scored 3 and Tampa only scored 2 and nothing in between…and 1 was a garbage time 5 on 3…
Gotta go with the 3-2-1-0 points system. It is so silly and imbalanced right now that you have regular season games weighted 50% more than other games. And its many games that get weighted more, creating a benefit for going to OT a lot. Its my biggest gripe with the current NHL.
Puck over the glass is dumb too. There was nothing wrong with making the delay of game there at the discretion of the referees. The NHL so desperately wants to create black and white rules when it isn't really that kind of sport. Throw video review into the fire unless you need to determine if the puck went over the goal line.
As far as Bettman goes. There is good and bad. Ultimately though, he is, and always has been the greasy lawyer frontman for the NHL's Board of Governors, and if it werent him, it would be another greasy lawyer type who would be doing the same exact bidding of the same wealthy owners (and taking all the heat).
He took over at a pivoting point for pro sports, and maybe particularly the NHL. Much of that pivoting was toward money and expansion and TV contracts. They took away the cool Division names in favor of East, West, etc. We had USA/Canada vs The World all star games. New buildings in pretty much every single market, including a lot of relocation. Money, money, money poured in and players became more and more their own 'brands'.
You lost a lot of the raw unpredictability and emotion that hockey brought. Partially due to the players risking too much... but mainly due to what we now know of concussions and the lawsuits that come from that. You also have players that are much, much bigger, stronger, and quicker than they were in the 70s and 80s, and early 90s, and they do severe damage when they punch faces/heads more often. Back in the day, we may have a couple guys who are 6' 190 pounds duking it out.... now we have players well over 6 feet, well over 200 pounds and on all sorts of 21st century nutritional, training, and supplement regimens. If anything, I believe that Bettman/the NHL has done the best job they could have possibly done to sit on the fence, allow fighting, but pretend just enough to be against it.
At this time, with the NHL Board of Governors and Bettman, there is almost zero forward thinking going on. The players are all giants, faster, more efficient, and better coached than ever, with 4 referees on the same playing surface size they used 150 years ago. Not saying they need to go international size, but space is needed. NHL games are boring slogs of robot players waiting for the other team to make a mistake.... and if there isnt an offsides challenge, we may see a goal at that point.
I also think they really have needed to lean in on the popularity the sport has in Europe and parts of Asia. Its an advantage the NHL enjoys over most of our other sports and every year is a year wasted, while other sports seem to be pressing harder in those areas. Im not talking "Europe Series" where the Sabres and Tampa Bay play a game in Germany... which is fine. IMO they should be trying to plan a mid/during-the-season tournament with NHL teams and include some Euro teams or KHL teams much like Euro soccer does. That would fast-track the European Expansion that has been rumored since Gretzky went to LA. Eventually, I think you would have a Division/Conference out there, and Im sure a lot of European players would desire to play there. True international competition. You could have Tampa Bay vs Russia for the Stanley Cup where everyone is tuning in rooting for Tampa Bay to keep the cup here.
The only international hockey that is interesting is the Olympics. And that’s because it means something to the players. There will never be an overseas league that competes for the Cup…for one there is only a handful of countries that play hockey at an elite level.
If those players from the past had access to the same coaching, training, dietary needs, video, equipment etc they easily compete with today’s nhl players…do you think tiny people played the game years ago…lol. The greatest dynasty ever assembled, The Canadiens of the late 70’s had a d core that were all over 6’0…the big 3 Robinson, Savard and Lapointe all 6’3? Ken Dryden was 6’4”. The equipment of today makes today’s players look bigger…today’s equipment is like body armour.
put today’s players in the equipment that players wore in the 70’s. And let’s see how they fare.
Im quite confidant in saying the late 70’s Canadiens could have competed with today’s NHL…and May not win 6 in a decade, buyb4 in a decade, yes…
also The Canadiens of the late 70’s had the greatest GM (Sam Pollick) and coach (Scotty Bowman), so they would have been able to manage the ridiculous salary cap.
Goal scoring is down because of the equipment the players wear today…
Agree on equipment. Players block so many shots today, especially in playoffs, because the equipment has become so advanced.
It is essentially body armour. Even the equipment used in minor hockey is like body armour. Just crazy.
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I don't think more goals necessarily = better hockey.
Many people do -- probably more than do not -- it is just not an opinion that I hold.
Same thing with baseball and with football. I know most people want life to look like the video games but I am OK w/o that.
Expansion draft day is a week away -- this is going to be wild.
I don't think more goals necessarily = better hockey.
Many people do -- probably more than do not -- it is just not an opinion that I hold.
Same thing with baseball and with football. I know most people want life to look like the video games but I am OK w/o that.
Expansion draft day is a week away -- this is going to be wild.
Agree on low scoring affairs - I love a defensive battle / pitching duel where goals / points / runs are hard earned just as much as I love a high scoring affair that might see several lead changes.
I don't think more goals necessarily = better hockey.
Many people do -- probably more than do not -- it is just not an opinion that I hold.
Same thing with baseball and with football. I know most people want life to look like the video games but I am OK w/o that.
Expansion draft day is a week away -- this is going to be wild.
I dont need more goals. Just higher 'event' hockey. More chances, great saves, etc. One of the most entertaining games I ever saw was Buffalo 1, New jersey 0 in 4 overtimes. It just seems that everyone plays and coaches primarily to decrease events. The only time events happen is when a team makes a mistake usually as opposed to a great play.
I don't think more goals necessarily = better hockey.
Many people do -- probably more than do not -- it is just not an opinion that I hold.
Same thing with baseball and with football. I know most people want life to look like the video games but I am OK w/o that.
Expansion draft day is a week away -- this is going to be wild.
I dont need more goals. Just higher 'event' hockey. More chances, great saves, etc. One of the most entertaining games I ever saw was Buffalo 1, New jersey 0 in 4 overtimes. It just seems that everyone plays and coaches primarily to decrease events. The only time events happen is when a team makes a mistake usually as opposed to a great play.
Agreed, but one would think that more chances, more play in teh slot, more breakouts, etc. should lead to more goals by default.
I don't think more goals necessarily = better hockey.
Many people do -- probably more than do not -- it is just not an opinion that I hold.
Same thing with baseball and with football. I know most people want life to look like the video games but I am OK w/o that.
Expansion draft day is a week away -- this is going to be wild.
I hear the Kracken are asking a lot for any side deals…Hope the GMs expose the 8 to 10 million a year players past their prime…
Seattle is no doubt seeing what Vegas did and asking for the moon. Hopefully the other 30 GMs are seeing what Vegas did and not budging.
I agree. I am hearing Montreal does not want to lose Jake Allin for nothing. I wish Montreal would discuss with Price and Weber and leave those 2 unprotected…. I doubt the Kraken would take either of those contracts…then Montreal keeps Allin. And if the Kraken do bite, I’d be fine with either leaving…i feel doing what’s best for the team should come first and both their contracts will be a headache soon…
I love the red wings tradition. When they win, the next game the crest side of the jersey faces out, when they lose, the players names face out…the point being is when you win you played for the team, when you lose, you play for yourself. I’m not sure if they started the tradition…
I feel the same way…
Wonder why Minnesota didn’t just expose Suter and Zack…they likely would have waived the no movement clause…
Looks like Weber's career may be over. What a warrior...he will be missed.
Now from a sensible point of view. The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward. Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.
Looks like Weber's career may be over. What a warrior...he will be missed.
Now from a sensible point of view. The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward. Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.
that's a tough break. It sucks. I like the guy. Hedman was playing with a torn meniscus since March which doesnt' surprise me. He didn't skate at all like he is capable throughout the playoffs. By contrast, he will not be left unprotected though.
Looks like Weber's career may be over. What a warrior...he will be missed.
Now from a sensible point of view. The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward. Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.
The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.
If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.
And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed.
It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.
Looks like Weber's career may be over. What a warrior...he will be missed.
Now from a sensible point of view. The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward. Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.
The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.
If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.
And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed.
It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.
About 6 million a year. Montreal wants to put him on LTIR ... but it sounds like the league will make it difficult ... so it may be between the NHLPA and the NHL.
Looks like Weber's career may be over. What a warrior...he will be missed.
Now from a sensible point of view. The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward. Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.
The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.
If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.
And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed.
It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.
About 6 million a year. Montreal wants to put him on LTIR ... but it sounds like the league will make it difficult ... so it may be between the NHLPA and the NHL.
I don't think the league will take a stance on if he can or cannot go on IR. That opens them up to potential legal action by MTL and the NHLPA.
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put today’s players in the equipment that players wore in the 70’s. And let’s see how they fare.
Im quite confidant in saying the late 70’s Canadiens could have competed with today’s NHL…and May not win 6 in a decade, buyb4 in a decade, yes…
also The Canadiens of the late 70’s had the greatest GM (Sam Pollick) and coach (Scotty Bowman), so they would have been able to manage the ridiculous salary cap.
Goal scoring is down because of the equipment the players wear today…
Players have gotten taller and heavier since the NHL was 'good'. I would add again that they are much better conditioned, quicker, and efficient which bogs down the sport. The game has also skewed younger to keep up with the speed, which has actually made the size dip down slightly.
Watching a game from the 70s, from your example, everyone has a lot of room and are generally slower, but it is a better sport to watch then IMO because it creates a lot more variance and excitement. Their 1st step is way behind what these guys do today. I do agree that equipment is a part of it. Goalies actually had to make saves instead of be in the right position to cut down the % chances the puck goes past him.
All that’s left is 4 on 4 for the entire game, reduce equipment size of both skaters and goalie and bring back the wood stick?
Goal scoring suffers because because of the size of the equipment.
I’d like to see a game between 2 nhl teams using older equipment…these brave guys today would be far less brave…have blocking shots.
it can work both ways.
The NHL is never going to call the game by the book…tv dictates that. The nhl is no the nfl…the nfl owns a day of the week…tv does not care if nfl games are 2 hours or 4 hours…tv does not want nhl games going past 10 when a game starts at 7. Similarly is why they generally let a lot go in the playoffs…they have to take into account that OT could go 2/3 periods.
the nhl refs are the worst in professional sports. They fired a ref who admitted he should have favoured one team over the other…lol.
Montreal’s PK neutralized all 4 teams PPs they faced. Toronto scored 3 and Tampa only scored 2 and nothing in between…and 1 was a garbage time 5 on 3…
It just seems that everyone plays and coaches primarily to decrease events. The only time events happen is when a team makes a mistake usually as opposed to a great play.
Seattle is no doubt seeing what Vegas did and asking for the moon. Hopefully the other 30 GMs are seeing what Vegas did and not budging.
I love the red wings tradition. When they win, the next game the crest side of the jersey faces out, when they lose, the players names face out…the point being is when you win you played for the team, when you lose, you play for yourself. I’m not sure if they started the tradition…
I feel the same way…
Wonder why Minnesota didn’t just expose Suter and Zack…they likely would have waived the no movement clause…
Shea Weber Montreal Canadiens Nashville Predators - TSN.ca
Looks like Weber's career may be over. What a warrior...he will be missed.
Now from a sensible point of view. The cap hit that Montreal would be occurring over the next 5 years would have been a hindrance going forward. Now if Weber retires, that noise you may be hearing is Nashville's front office...apparently Weber retiring will shift the dead cap over to Nashville...ouch.
The cup is repaired and as good as new...
The most we would be hit with is the remaining AAV of his contract which would be about $4.9 million over 5 years. That's not ideal, but it's manageable.
If he goes on LTIRetirement then there is no recapture penalty.
And this is all if the NHL decides to penalize us for a contract that was offered by Philly, matched by Nashville, signed within the rules at the time AND was approved by the league. The cap recapture rules were put in place a couple of years after the deal was signed.
It would basically be like you were driving down the road today and the speed limit is 50, but tomorrow they changed the speed limit to 40 and tried to give you a ticket because you broke today's limit yesterday.
About 6 million a year. Montreal wants to put him on LTIR ... but it sounds like the league will make it difficult ... so it may be between the NHLPA and the NHL.
I don't think the league will take a stance on if he can or cannot go on IR. That opens them up to potential legal action by MTL and the NHLPA.