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  • cutzcutz Posts: 7,784
    edited September 2017
    pjhawks said:
    Jason P said:
    NCAA indited Oklahoma State, Auburn, Arizona and UCLA for bribes.  Seems that Louisville had Adidas pay a recruit $100K to commit.

    That's gotta be the death penalty for the Cards program after the hooker fiasco, right?


    Good.  College recruiting is so fucking dirty.  The whole scene is sad and disgusting...teams recruiting kids when they're 12-13 years old.  
    It's not all about recruiting though. Part of it is coaching accepting bribes to steer kids towards certain agents. I fear that my school (South Carolina) is going to get in trouble because of this. Evans was at South Carolina before OK State and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was accepting bribes to get PJ Dozier and/or Sindarius Thornwell to sign with one of the agents listed in the indictment. We are certainly listed in the document (I think we are University-2), so all I can hope is that this was a rogue coach and nobody else knew of his actions.


    That said, I think this is just the beginning and we're going to see a lot more charges and names thrown out. Worldwide Wes better go into hiding and get to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US.
    every major coach of every major program better be lawyering up.  once those arrested start talking and it possibly gets into the other shoe companies all hell could break loose. Every Adidas school should be shaking in their shoes this morning for sure.
    I think this will go beyond Adidas . Nike & Under Armor are involved too. Been going on for decades. This is ONLY the tip of the Ice Berg. I can see this exploding into Football too. We shall see.

     Lawyering up, is right. Ther gonna make a lot of money too.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 24,552
    Jason P said:
    Maybe Purdue can now land some 5 star recruits after the pay-for-play ring has been busted.

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  • Jason P said:
    NCAA indited Oklahoma State, Auburn, Arizona and UCLA for bribes.  Seems that Louisville had Adidas pay a recruit $100K to commit.

    That's gotta be the death penalty for the Cards program after the hooker fiasco, right?


    Good.  College recruiting is so fucking dirty.  The whole scene is sad and disgusting...teams recruiting kids when they're 12-13 years old.  
    It's not all about recruiting though. Part of it is coaching accepting bribes to steer kids towards certain agents. I fear that my school (South Carolina) is going to get in trouble because of this. Evans was at South Carolina before OK State and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was accepting bribes to get PJ Dozier and/or Sindarius Thornwell to sign with one of the agents listed in the indictment. We are certainly listed in the document (I think we are University-2), so all I can hope is that this was a rogue coach and nobody else knew of his actions.


    That said, I think this is just the beginning and we're going to see a lot more charges and names thrown out. Worldwide Wes better go into hiding and get to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US.
    Carey Rich said that Evans didn't steer any of our guys toward the agent in question. I guess we'll see.
    I'm through with screaming
  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SCPosts: 4,338
    edited September 2017
    Jason P said:
    NCAA indited Oklahoma State, Auburn, Arizona and UCLA for bribes.  Seems that Louisville had Adidas pay a recruit $100K to commit.

    That's gotta be the death penalty for the Cards program after the hooker fiasco, right?


    Good.  College recruiting is so fucking dirty.  The whole scene is sad and disgusting...teams recruiting kids when they're 12-13 years old.  
    It's not all about recruiting though. Part of it is coaching accepting bribes to steer kids towards certain agents. I fear that my school (South Carolina) is going to get in trouble because of this. Evans was at South Carolina before OK State and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was accepting bribes to get PJ Dozier and/or Sindarius Thornwell to sign with one of the agents listed in the indictment. We are certainly listed in the document (I think we are University-2), so all I can hope is that this was a rogue coach and nobody else knew of his actions.


    That said, I think this is just the beginning and we're going to see a lot more charges and names thrown out. Worldwide Wes better go into hiding and get to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the US.
    Carey Rich said that Evans didn't steer any of our guys toward the agent in question. I guess we'll see.
    Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. I'm sure that as a former player Rich knows about the seedy stuff that goes on. This goes beyond the normal pay-to-play recruiting stuff, so I doubt he has a lot of inside details about this. I was reading some analysis of the FBI document on one of our fan message boards and it stated that Evans definitely took bribes while he was at South Carolina. One of the documented meetings had him saying to start the process of paying one of our players and his family in the summer of 2016 so that everything would work out as it should. It was around that time that he left for OK State, so whether or not any money was paid out is unclear. He also said he took the new job because it gave him a better opportunity to make more off the bribes, which tells me he was doing (or at least trying to do) something. It looks like some shady stuff occurred here, but that's all going to be determined by any documents uncovered and if there's a money trail. One good thing that Evans said was that he doesn't include the head coach in these deals, so Coach Martin should be in the clear. We'll probably get some sort of NCAA punishment, but it's much better for us that it looks to be a rogue assistant and not a full program investigation. But, right now it's all wait and see.
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  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SCPosts: 4,338
    Not that my school is out of the woods yet, but



    Thought this was funny, but UK fans may not want to buy them just yet...
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 9,550
    Anybody heard any rumblings about Underwood at Illinois? Former assistant went down and is being charged with things before and after Underwood hired him at OkSt. Seems like a prime candidate for punishment, but haven’t read much about the case as a whole.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,041
    Not that my school is out of the woods yet, but



    Thought this was funny, but UK fans may not want to buy them just yet...
    Kentucky has been the most scandal ridden program in college basketball history. i don't think they should be throwing stones at anyone.
  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SCPosts: 4,338
    DewieCox said:
    Anybody heard any rumblings about Underwood at Illinois? Former assistant went down and is being charged with things before and after Underwood hired him at OkSt. Seems like a prime candidate for punishment, but haven’t read much about the case as a whole.
    I've seen some speculation about it. Wouldn't be too surprising though. Like you said, he was HC and hired Evans. If Evans was truthful about not including the head coaches in the deals, Underwood might be ok. I see him in the same situation as Frank Martin and fully expect the feds to investigate here.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 17,330
    Pitino getting canned might actually benifit Louisville's overall student athelete program consider he was getting 98% of the Adidas contract

    http://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2017/10/05/university-louisville-college-basketball-adidas-tom-jurich-rick-pitinio-money/730771001/

    98%!!!  I'm guessing the other 2% was allotted for street prostitutes and escorts recruiting purposes ...
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 24,552
    BYU, cheating too. :smiley:

    juggler - update your thread.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,660
    Wobbie said:
    BYU, cheating too. :smiley:

    juggler - update your thread.
    update YOUR thread.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 29,721
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    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
  • cutzcutz Posts: 7,784
    More corruption?

    Josh Pastner, Georgia Tech accused of underplaying violations by jilted friend


    https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/josh-pastner-georgia-tech-accused-of-underplaying-violations-by-jilted-friend/
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,041
    cutz said:
    I hope the Chinese government sentences to work in the Nike factory for $0.25 a day
  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,922
    Got season tickets for Wisconsin, first real game on Friday. Psyched!
    Listen to some of my music here (if you want to): [url="My soundcloud"]
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 24,552
    so.....juggs.....changing 2015/2016 to 2017/2018 is just too much to ask?

    slacker.
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    Vancouver 11
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    Philly I & II, 16
  • I'm through with screaming
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 17,330
    Could face 3 - 10 years in a Chinese prison.  yikes!
  • LizardLizard So CalPosts: 11,878
    what a DUMBASS LiAngelo is.
    Is it over yet? #ITMFA
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 17,330
    It's not like they standout in the crowd .... in CHINA.  Me thinks a trio of 6'6" black dudes may attract some extra attention in a land of 5'5" Chinese dudes
  • LizardLizard So CalPosts: 11,878
    daddy can't fix this one.....
    Is it over yet? #ITMFA
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 29,721
    I'll go  with the latter
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    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PAPosts: 29,721
    bye #1 team in the country
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    10/31/09- Philly
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    10/21/13- Philly, PA
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    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,660
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  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SCPosts: 4,338
    Just got back from watching my Gamecocks upset Kentucky! While we're still a fairly mediocre team, the defense we've been playing lately has been fantastic.
  • Just got back from watching my Gamecocks upset Kentucky! While we're still a fairly mediocre team, the defense we've been playing lately has been fantastic.
    I fell asleep at halftime (at home, not at the game). :lol: Silva is a beast when he's not worried about foul trouble. We really needed that win to hopefully give us momentum to finish the season with a decent record.
    I'm through with screaming
  • ShynerShyner Posts: 1,226
    Still trying to figure out how uk lost the game
  • markymark550markymark550 Columbia, SCPosts: 4,338
    Just got back from watching my Gamecocks upset Kentucky! While we're still a fairly mediocre team, the defense we've been playing lately has been fantastic.
    I fell asleep at halftime (at home, not at the game). :lol: Silva is a beast when he's not worried about foul trouble. We really needed that win to hopefully give us momentum to finish the season with a decent record.
    Silva has been much better this year managing his fouls. His first 2 years, I think he just had the mindset of "go get the ball." This year, he's been more conscious about knowing when not to overpursue and not committing silly fouls.

    I think we can still finish with a decent record, one that could have us in the NIT. The defense is finally starting to play like Martin wants. That should keep us in most games, I just still question our offense given that we will through long stretches where they couldn't buy a basket.

    Shyner said:
    Still trying to figure out how uk lost the game
    UK had either 3 or 4 players foul out and they got really passive on offense the last 8 minutes or so. They had at least 4 possessions taking the shot clock down and then settling for Kevin Knox missing a 3. He was killing us when he was driving to the hoop. I don't know why they went away from that.
  • Just got back from watching my Gamecocks upset Kentucky! While we're still a fairly mediocre team, the defense we've been playing lately has been fantastic.
    I fell asleep at halftime (at home, not at the game). :lol: Silva is a beast when he's not worried about foul trouble. We really needed that win to hopefully give us momentum to finish the season with a decent record.
    Silva has been much better this year managing his fouls. His first 2 years, I think he just had the mindset of "go get the ball." This year, he's been more conscious about knowing when not to overpursue and not committing silly fouls.

    I think we can still finish with a decent record, one that could have us in the NIT. The defense is finally starting to play like Martin wants. That should keep us in most games, I just still question our offense given that we will through long stretches where they couldn't buy a basket.

    Shyner said:
    Still trying to figure out how uk lost the game
    UK had either 3 or 4 players foul out and they got really passive on offense the last 8 minutes or so. They had at least 4 possessions taking the shot clock down and then settling for Kevin Knox missing a 3. He was killing us when he was driving to the hoop. I don't know why they went away from that.
    Yes, all true. I guess on Saturday we will find out for certain that Zion is going to Clemson. That's still a head scratcher to me. 
    I'm through with screaming
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