it's not a right wing talking point. it is a crisis. and unfortunately, it's caused by a president having a reputation for beign a human being. now he just has to do something about it.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
This has always been a problem. Democrats bury their heads up their asses for votes while republicans vilify and never want to solve the problem for votes
it's not a right wing talking point. it is a crisis. and unfortunately, it's caused by a president having a reputation for beign a human being. now he just has to do something about it.
I’m sure his 100 day deportation ban was a bigger incentive than his reputation has a human.
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I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
This has always been a problem. Democrats bury their heads up their asses for votes while republicans vilify and never want to solve the problem for votes
Yea, dems bury their heads up their asses, sure they do. Can't vote unless you're a citizen.
WASHINGTON – Armed with hope for the first time in years that immigration legislation can pass through Congress, Democrats on Capitol Hill are moving forward this week on bills that could help create a pathway to citizenship for millions of individuals living in the USA without legal status.
The House will begin action on both the American Dream and Promise Act and the Farm Workforce Modernization Act, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's office said Thursday.
Congress has struggled for decades to pass a comprehensive immigration overhaul.
The last comprehensive bill, sponsored by a group of bipartisan senators, was brought up in 2013. That legislation, which included a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants and tighter border security, passed the Senate with bipartisan support but died in the House. It's been more than three decades since Congress last enacted broad immigration changes.
The bills the House will take up are separate from President Joe Biden’s comprehensive immigration plan – the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021 – which would create an eight-year pathway to citizenship for nearly 11 million undocumented immigrants, with a shorter pathway available for farmworkers and recipients of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), a program that allows people brought to the country illegally as children to stay.
Biden’s immigration bill probably will face an uphill battle in Congress, particularly in a Senate split 50-50 where all Democrats and at least 10 Republicans would need to vote in favor of the bill to avoid a filibuster.
Democrats and activists expect the two standalone bills moving through the House have a better chance of passing the full Congress. The Dream Act and the Farm Workforce Modernization Act both passed in the House in 2019, but the legislation was never brought up in the Republican-controlled Senate.
Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., a co-sponsor of the Farm Workforce Modernization Act, said Thursday that she is "hopeful" about the legislation's chances in the Senate. She added that she's spoken with several senators working to move the legislation forward in that chamber.
"Is that a guarantee? Of course not," she said. "But there is strong interest to getting this done, both for employers and employees, Republicans and Democrats. We're not going to just vote on it and let it go. We're going to continue to engage with our friends on the other side of the building in the U.S. Senate, both Republicans and Democrats, and see if we can get this done."
Several activist groups have voiced support for these bills, pushing Democrats and the Biden administration to move quickly on offering protections for millions of undocumented immigrants.
“We want to achieve a breakthrough in the next few months," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, and the organization's “strategy is to push for the things that can pass in the House.” If those bills pass, it could create momentum to take up the full comprehensive immigration reform proposed by Biden, he said.
“If we succeed in legalizing millions of undocumented immigrants, but … there's some people who are left out … we'll celebrate and then get back to work to legalize the rest,” Sharry said.
Greisa Martínez Rosas, executive director for United We Dream, said the bills are part of multiple avenues Democrats are taking to get immigration reform through Congress.
Some activists urge lawmakers to include a pathway to legalization for DACA recipients, also called "Dreamers," farmworkers and essential workers in other legislation, such as the next package in Biden's COVID-19 recovery plan, which is likely to largely focus on infrastructure. A new bill has yet to be introduced in Congress for the next phase of recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.
“There's no way that we're leaving 2021 without permanent protections for millions of undocumented people,” Martínez Rosas said.
Here's what each of the bills moving through the House this week would cover:
American Dream and Promise Act
The American Dream and Promise Act would create a pathway to legal status for “Dreamers,” the term used to describe undocumented individuals who were brought to the USA as children. The legislation would grant conditional permanent resident status for 10 years and cancel removal proceedings if people meet certain requirements. Those requirements include being physically present in the USA on or before Jan. 1, 2021, being 18 years old or younger on the initial date of entry into the USA and not having been convicted of crimes such as domestic violence, sexual assault or human trafficking.
Under the legislation, "Dreamers" could gain full lawful permanent resident status by either acquiring a degree from a university or college, completing at least two years of military service or being employed for at least three years where they had employment authorization for 75% of the time they were employed.
The bill includes protections and a pathway to citizenship for individuals who were eligible for Temporary Protected Status (TPS) on or before Sept. 17, 2017, and individuals who had Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) status as of Jan. 20, 2021. Individuals who are beneficiaries of either of those programs and have been in the USA for three years before the act’s enactment are eligible for the protections and pathway to citizenship.
The Farm Workforce Modernization Act
This bill would create a process to earn temporary status as Certified Agricultural Workers for individuals who have worked at least 180 days in agriculture over the past 2 years. Spouses and children could also apply for temporary status under the act.
The legislation would create a pathway for workers to get a green card by paying a $1,000 fine and engaging in additional agricultural work depending on how long they have worked in agriculture in the USA.
The bill would streamline the process to get an H-2A visa, which allows foreign citizens into the country for temporary agricultural work.
I will say this about Peru. Things are not going too well down there during this Covid thing. My cousin just asked for donations from a few of us to help his wifes family whom are struggling to feed themselves.
I can see why there is a mass exodus here. What I am deeply concerned about is all the unaccompanied children coming in.
Across Central America, dangerous levels of violence, corruption, poverty, and extreme weather driven by climate change have been among the root causes driving a broader regional challenge that has led families and unaccompanied children to leave their homes in Central America.
These factors pre-date COVID-19, but the health and economic impacts of the pandemic have only exacerbated the challenge. For example:
In Guatemala and Honduras, half the country lives in poverty. The COVID-19 pandemic doubled the number of people facing hunger in Guatemala. In all three countries in Central America, there are close to 16 million people under the age of 24 – and nearly one-third of the youth are unemployed.
Countries in the “Northern Triangle” in Central America are experiencing some of the highest murder rates in the world, with El Salvador having the highest homicide rate in the world
Studies have found a striking correlation: for every 10 murders in Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala, 6 children sought safety in the United States.
As many as 2.1 million people in Central America, approximately 1% of the population, will likely be forced from their homes due to factors related to climate change by 2050, according to a World Bank Study.
U.S. foreign assistance catalyzes regional investments and drives results
In 2014, the United States launched the “Alliance for Prosperity” – a regional initiative grounded in tough U.S. diplomatic engagement and sustained, targeted development investments. An initial U.S. commitment of $750 million catalyzed more than $5.4 billion in funding from the Northern Triangle countries – more than seven times the initial American commitment– to help their own people. By 2017, American assistance helped improve conditions throughout the region, and border-crossing apprehensions fell to their lowest point since 1971. Yet this commitment was not sustained, and U.S. foreign assistance to Central America was suspended and decreased by nearly 30% from 2016 to 2019, when assistance to the Northern Triangle was just 0.035% of the current federal budget. When U.S. foreign assistance is integrated into a comprehensive approach to the challenge, these investments improve safety and stability across the region.
Declining Homicide Rates: Homicide rates dropped by 42% in El Salvador, 13% in Guatemala, and 23% in Honduras from 2015 to 2017 with even higher declines of up to 66% in El Salvador and 78% in Honduras in at risk neighborhoods where USAID and the State Department targeted their programs.
Fighting Corruption: The United States supports the Mission to Support the Fight Against Corruption and Impunity in Honduras (MACCIH), an independent, international anti-corruption body that has enabled the work of judges, prosecutors, and investigators. The United States also supported a United Nations anti- corruption body set up in Guatemala 2007 to fight corruption, the International Commission Against Impunity in Guatemala (CICIG), which was terminated by the country in 2019.
Promoting Economic Development: In the Western Highlands region of Guatemala, an area especially prone to migration based on data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, USAID agricultural programming helped increase rural farmers’ sales by 51% and created 20,000 jobs in agriculture.
Rebuilding After Natural Disasters: Following back-to-back hurricanes in Central America in 2020 that caused severe flooding, landslides, and extensive damages to infrastructure, USAID deployed a Disaster-Assistance Response Team and allocated millions of dollars in life-saving aid to provide food, shelter, protection, and additional relief supplies to those affected.
OVERVIEW OF U.S. ASSISTANCE IN CENTRAL AMERICA
Approximately 1% of all U.S. foreign assistance goes to Central America, the vast majority of which supports effective and accountable partnerships with vetted non-profit and civil society organizations.
These groups run programs promoting economic and agricultural development, combating violence and empower youth, and fighting corruption.
Only about 2% of American assistance is provided as direct budget support to foreign governments around the world, according to the Congressional Research Service. Programs that support the efforts of Central American governments largely focus on strengthening law enforcement and security.
The following is a high-level summary of U.S. foreign aid investments by country:
El Salvador: Strengthening Citizen Security and the Rule of Law
As part of El Salvador’s national security plan, USAID and State Department security programs targeted 50 municipalities by integrating law enforcement with community-level prevention. In neighborhoods where USAID worked in El Salvador, homicides declined by an average of 45% from 2015 to 2017.
Through a $5 million USAID investment to reform El Salvador’s tax system, the El Salvadorian government increased its annual revenue by $350 million and its annual social spending by $160 million between 2005 and 2013.
El Salvador successfully completed a five-year $461 million compact with the Millennium Challenge Corporation (MCC) focused on education, energy, agriculture, rural business development, and infrastructure that is expected to benefit more than 700,000 people over 20 years – including more than 33,000 households gaining access to electricity.
A second MCC compact of $277 million entered into force in 2015 and seeks to improve the competitiveness of the country’s labor force, strengthen regulatory policies, and improve transportation infrastructure, with the El Salvadorian government contributing $88 million to the five-year compact.
USAID and WFP partnered to provide food assistance in El Salvador’s Dry Corridor, a region plagued by extreme droughts and particularly vulnerable to climate change, which was hit hard by the COVID-19 pandemic and tropical storms Iota and Eta.
Guatemala: Promoting Economic Development and Fighting Poverty
USAID agricultural programming helped increase rural farmers’ sales by 51% and created 20,000 jobs in the agriculture sector. American assistance is helping to transform Guatemala into an economic partner, with U.S. agricultural exports to Guatemala increasing by 60% over the last decade.
U.S. assistance in Guatemala leveraged more than $7 million in private investment, reaching 230,000 children under the age of 5 with nutritional support.
Guatemala is a partner in a $28 million threshold program with the MCC that seeks to improve tax administration, stimulate private funding for infrastructure, and train Guatemalan youth in valuable vocational skills.
In response to Hurricane Iota’s impact in Guatemala, USAID provided $7 million to provide life-saving resources like emergency shelter, food, hygiene supplies, and critical relief items.
Honduras: Promoting Security and Fighting Corruption
USAID and State Department community policing and youth programs helped reduce homicide rates in at risk communities up to 73% between 2013 and 2016.
Through Feed the Future, USAID investments in agriculture have helped lift 89,000 people out of extreme poverty while also encouraging a $56 million co-investment by the Honduran government in the program.
Honduras is a partner in a threshold program with the MCC that seeks to develop the capacity of small-holder farmers and is expected to benefit more than 350,000 people. In addition, the partnership aims to help rehabilitate key transportation systems.
Following the landfall of Hurricane Iota, USAID allocated new funding of up to $8.5 million to provide emergency shelter, food, hygiene supplies, critical relief items, and protection for the most vulnerable people.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Anyone here go down and visit that big, beautiful wall? That Mexico will pay for? Seen it with your own eyes? Post pics if you have them, can’t trust lamestream media. Project Veritas should have documented the success of POOTWH, right? Suckers.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if that number is wrong because it’s so outrageous.
Well what about the first part of the post? The CNN link that says it’s the highest number of migrants in that timeframe in five years.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
Cleverly written WaPo article. Comparing the total number of migrants instead of focusing on what I think most people are concerned about clearly works for some. The “crisis” is the fact that there are a record number of unaccompanied migrant CHILDREN being held in facilities designed for adults.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
Thanks, but I can find myself around in the dark. And a continuation of a policy from the Obama and POOTWH administrations results in “crisis” or “fauxrage” or “change” or some other lack of understanding of why. Got it. Is the light powered by renewables? It matters, you know?
PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
Thanks, but I can find myself around in the dark. And a continuation of a policy from the Obama and POOTWH administrations results in “crisis” or “fauxrage” or “change” or some other lack of understanding of why. Got it. Is the light powered by renewables? It matters, you know?
PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
You dismissed facts without doing research whether the one article was poorly written or not. This is one instance of how misinformation spreads by people that think they know the truth but aren't willing to do any research before running their keyboards. The facts matter, you know?
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
Thanks, but I can find myself around in the dark. And a continuation of a policy from the Obama and POOTWH administrations results in “crisis” or “fauxrage” or “change” or some other lack of understanding of why. Got it. Is the light powered by renewables? It matters, you know?
PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
Like the WaPo article that completely ignores the actual “crisis” that was referenced and spins the topic for the convenience of its readers?
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
Thanks, but I can find myself around in the dark. And a continuation of a policy from the Obama and POOTWH administrations results in “crisis” or “fauxrage” or “change” or some other lack of understanding of why. Got it. Is the light powered by renewables? It matters, you know?
PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
You dismissed facts without doing research whether the one article was poorly written or not. This is one instance of how misinformation spreads by people that think they know the truth but aren't willing to do any research before running their keyboards. The facts matter, you know?
Like the dismissal of the sources and reporting that I’ve linked to that very clearly illustrate that nothing has really “changed” under Biden, that AOC has suddenly stopped voicing her opposition or that the press hasn’t reported on, or been allowed access to, the “crisis.” You mean that fucking misinformation? Blah, blah, blah.
Funny how a dem POTUS brings out the keyboard warriors. Hit the light, will ya?
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
Thanks, but I can find myself around in the dark. And a continuation of a policy from the Obama and POOTWH administrations results in “crisis” or “fauxrage” or “change” or some other lack of understanding of why. Got it. Is the light powered by renewables? It matters, you know?
PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
You dismissed facts without doing research whether the one article was poorly written or not. This is one instance of how misinformation spreads by people that think they know the truth but aren't willing to do any research before running their keyboards. The facts matter, you know?
Like the dismissal of the sources and reporting that I’ve linked to that very clearly illustrate that nothing has really “changed” under Biden, that AOC has suddenly stopped voicing her opposition or that the press hasn’t reported on, or been allowed access to, the “crisis.” You mean that fucking misinformation? Blah, blah, blah.
Funny how a dem POTUS brings out the keyboard warriors. Hit the light, will ya?
So do you not believe that record numbers of children are crossing alone? Do you not believe that these are record numbers for this time of year? And that if this trend continues will be about 35% higher than the highest peak in a few months? Because all those things are true, and have been verified several times. Those are the things that have changed. I'm not sure what about that is misinformation.
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
Thanks, but I can find myself around in the dark. And a continuation of a policy from the Obama and POOTWH administrations results in “crisis” or “fauxrage” or “change” or some other lack of understanding of why. Got it. Is the light powered by renewables? It matters, you know?
PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
You dismissed facts without doing research whether the one article was poorly written or not. This is one instance of how misinformation spreads by people that think they know the truth but aren't willing to do any research before running their keyboards. The facts matter, you know?
Like the dismissal of the sources and reporting that I’ve linked to that very clearly illustrate that nothing has really “changed” under Biden, that AOC has suddenly stopped voicing her opposition or that the press hasn’t reported on, or been allowed access to, the “crisis.” You mean that fucking misinformation? Blah, blah, blah.
Funny how a dem POTUS brings out the keyboard warriors. Hit the light, will ya?
So do you not believe that record numbers of children are crossing alone? Do you not believe that these are record numbers for this time of year? And that if this trend continues will be about 35% higher than the highest peak in a few months? Because all those things are true, and have been verified several times. Those are the things that have changed. I'm not sure what about that is misinformation.
Then clearly you haven’t looked at the information that I posted. You seem to believe that it’s all Biden’s fault and that the press isn’t reporting on the crisis and that AOC suddenly doesn’t care, despite links to information to the contrary. That’s the misinformation that I’m countering.
You, and others, also seem to ignore or dismiss the facts of the previous administration’s radical change in policy that got us where we are today and after 4 years expect Biden to solve it in less than 65 days. Otherwise he’s failed at handling a “crisis.”
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
Thanks, but I can find myself around in the dark. And a continuation of a policy from the Obama and POOTWH administrations results in “crisis” or “fauxrage” or “change” or some other lack of understanding of why. Got it. Is the light powered by renewables? It matters, you know?
PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
You dismissed facts without doing research whether the one article was poorly written or not. This is one instance of how misinformation spreads by people that think they know the truth but aren't willing to do any research before running their keyboards. The facts matter, you know?
Like the dismissal of the sources and reporting that I’ve linked to that very clearly illustrate that nothing has really “changed” under Biden, that AOC has suddenly stopped voicing her opposition or that the press hasn’t reported on, or been allowed access to, the “crisis.” You mean that fucking misinformation? Blah, blah, blah.
Funny how a dem POTUS brings out the keyboard warriors. Hit the light, will ya?
So do you not believe that record numbers of children are crossing alone? Do you not believe that these are record numbers for this time of year? And that if this trend continues will be about 35% higher than the highest peak in a few months? Because all those things are true, and have been verified several times. Those are the things that have changed. I'm not sure what about that is misinformation.
Then clearly you haven’t looked at the information that I posted. You seem to believe that it’s all Biden’s fault and that the press isn’t reporting on the crisis and that AOC suddenly doesn’t care, despite links to information to the contrary. That’s the misinformation that I’m countering.
You, and others, also seem to ignore or dismiss the facts of the previous administration’s radical change in policy that got us where we are today and after 4 years expect Biden to solve it in less than 65 days. Otherwise he’s failed at handling a “crisis.”
Agree people seem to think there were no kids at the border before 1/20/20 ! This is a crisis no doubt but folks have to realistic that this can’t be fixed in a month or one year or even one term!
I was curious how long it would be before this thread was active again.
Well at this point even NBC editorials are calling it a “crisis” so it’s not like the people that may want dismiss it as a right-wing talking point can even call it that.
Sorry, not buying it. Appears to me to be fraudulent reporting via “yahoo” via “business insider” and a government master agreement for “hotels along the border.” Jeesh was POOTWH Dim!
For $86 mil no less? We’ll leave the light on for ya.
Is this supposed to concern me because some on here might be, maybe? Same old same old, same as it ever was? Does anyone read what they post? Like I’ve previously posted, it was worse before but now it’s an issue. Please explain what’s “changed.”
You said you didn't believe the article you read about the 86 million because of fraudulent reporting. I am just showing a couple more articles from other sources showing that you are wrong. We'll leave the light on for you.
Thanks, but I can find myself around in the dark. And a continuation of a policy from the Obama and POOTWH administrations results in “crisis” or “fauxrage” or “change” or some other lack of understanding of why. Got it. Is the light powered by renewables? It matters, you know?
PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
You dismissed facts without doing research whether the one article was poorly written or not. This is one instance of how misinformation spreads by people that think they know the truth but aren't willing to do any research before running their keyboards. The facts matter, you know?
Like the dismissal of the sources and reporting that I’ve linked to that very clearly illustrate that nothing has really “changed” under Biden, that AOC has suddenly stopped voicing her opposition or that the press hasn’t reported on, or been allowed access to, the “crisis.” You mean that fucking misinformation? Blah, blah, blah.
Funny how a dem POTUS brings out the keyboard warriors. Hit the light, will ya?
Was I dismissing any of the sources or reporting that you linked to about how things have or have not changed? No.
You can't stay on subject. One minute you're talking about what you falsely consider to be fake news and then you are talking about renewable energy and now keyboard warriors.
I was pointing out that what you said was a fake story was not a fake story, that's all. All you want to do is argue so have fun with that.
Please forgive me for not recalling an Obama era policy that was continued during the POOTWH administration and how it’s relevant to the “changes” the Biden Administration has made regarding the “crisis” on the border. The yahoo link looked amateur at best and I don’t give faux news clicks. So I was wrong. Thanks for your fair and balanced fact checking though. Much appreciated. And no, you didn’t comment on the links I provided but neither did you fact check the other BS that was posted. Oh well.
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WASHINGTON – Armed with hope for the first time in years that immigration legislation can pass through Congress, Democrats on Capitol Hill are moving forward this week on bills that could help create a pathway to citizenship for millions of individuals living in the USA without legal status.
The House will begin action on both the American Dream and Promise Act and the Farm Workforce Modernization Act, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's office said Thursday.
Congress has struggled for decades to pass a comprehensive immigration overhaul.
The last comprehensive bill, sponsored by a group of bipartisan senators, was brought up in 2013. That legislation, which included a path to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants and tighter border security, passed the Senate with bipartisan support but died in the House. It's been more than three decades since Congress last enacted broad immigration changes.
The bills the House will take up are separate from President Joe Biden’s comprehensive immigration plan – the U.S. Citizenship Act of 2021 – which would create an eight-year pathway to citizenship for nearly 11 million undocumented immigrants, with a shorter pathway available for farmworkers and recipients of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), a program that allows people brought to the country illegally as children to stay.
More:Biden restarts program to help migrant children fleeing violence in Central America
Biden’s immigration bill probably will face an uphill battle in Congress, particularly in a Senate split 50-50 where all Democrats and at least 10 Republicans would need to vote in favor of the bill to avoid a filibuster.
Democrats and activists expect the two standalone bills moving through the House have a better chance of passing the full Congress. The Dream Act and the Farm Workforce Modernization Act both passed in the House in 2019, but the legislation was never brought up in the Republican-controlled Senate.
Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., a co-sponsor of the Farm Workforce Modernization Act, said Thursday that she is "hopeful" about the legislation's chances in the Senate. She added that she's spoken with several senators working to move the legislation forward in that chamber.
"Is that a guarantee? Of course not," she said. "But there is strong interest to getting this done, both for employers and employees, Republicans and Democrats. We're not going to just vote on it and let it go. We're going to continue to engage with our friends on the other side of the building in the U.S. Senate, both Republicans and Democrats, and see if we can get this done."
Several activist groups have voiced support for these bills, pushing Democrats and the Biden administration to move quickly on offering protections for millions of undocumented immigrants.
“We want to achieve a breakthrough in the next few months," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, and the organization's “strategy is to push for the things that can pass in the House.” If those bills pass, it could create momentum to take up the full comprehensive immigration reform proposed by Biden, he said.
“If we succeed in legalizing millions of undocumented immigrants, but … there's some people who are left out … we'll celebrate and then get back to work to legalize the rest,” Sharry said.
More:Jen Psaki says surge of migrant children is 'heartbreaking,' brings difficult choices for Biden
Greisa Martínez Rosas, executive director for United We Dream, said the bills are part of multiple avenues Democrats are taking to get immigration reform through Congress.
Some activists urge lawmakers to include a pathway to legalization for DACA recipients, also called "Dreamers," farmworkers and essential workers in other legislation, such as the next package in Biden's COVID-19 recovery plan, which is likely to largely focus on infrastructure. A new bill has yet to be introduced in Congress for the next phase of recovery from the coronavirus pandemic.
“There's no way that we're leaving 2021 without permanent protections for millions of undocumented people,” Martínez Rosas said.
Here's what each of the bills moving through the House this week would cover:
American Dream and Promise Act
The American Dream and Promise Act would create a pathway to legal status for “Dreamers,” the term used to describe undocumented individuals who were brought to the USA as children. The legislation would grant conditional permanent resident status for 10 years and cancel removal proceedings if people meet certain requirements. Those requirements include being physically present in the USA on or before Jan. 1, 2021, being 18 years old or younger on the initial date of entry into the USA and not having been convicted of crimes such as domestic violence, sexual assault or human trafficking.
Under the legislation, "Dreamers" could gain full lawful permanent resident status by either acquiring a degree from a university or college, completing at least two years of military service or being employed for at least three years where they had employment authorization for 75% of the time they were employed.
More:Immigration was a scorching topic at the Supreme Court last year. With Trump gone, that's changed.
The bill includes protections and a pathway to citizenship for individuals who were eligible for Temporary Protected Status (TPS) on or before Sept. 17, 2017, and individuals who had Deferred Enforced Departure (DED) status as of Jan. 20, 2021. Individuals who are beneficiaries of either of those programs and have been in the USA for three years before the act’s enactment are eligible for the protections and pathway to citizenship.
The Farm Workforce Modernization Act
This bill would create a process to earn temporary status as Certified Agricultural Workers for individuals who have worked at least 180 days in agriculture over the past 2 years. Spouses and children could also apply for temporary status under the act.
More:Gov. Greg Abbott in South Texas says Biden administration 'invites illegal immigration'
The legislation would create a pathway for workers to get a green card by paying a $1,000 fine and engaging in additional agricultural work depending on how long they have worked in agriculture in the USA.
The bill would streamline the process to get an H-2A visa, which allows foreign citizens into the country for temporary agricultural work.
Immigration bills on House agenda; Democrats hopeful for Senate votes (usatoday.com)
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I can see why there is a mass exodus here. What I am deeply concerned about is all the unaccompanied children coming in.
Across Central America, dangerous levels of violence, corruption, poverty, and extreme weather driven by climate change have been among the root causes driving a broader regional challenge that has led families and unaccompanied children to leave their homes in Central America.
These factors pre-date COVID-19, but the health and economic impacts of the pandemic have only exacerbated the challenge. For example:
U.S. foreign assistance catalyzes regional investments and drives results
In 2014, the United States launched the “Alliance for Prosperity” – a regional initiative grounded in tough U.S. diplomatic engagement and sustained, targeted development investments. An initial U.S. commitment of $750 million catalyzed more than $5.4 billion in funding from the Northern Triangle countries – more than seven times the initial American commitment– to help their own people. By 2017, American assistance helped improve conditions throughout the region, and border-crossing apprehensions fell to their lowest point since 1971.
Yet this commitment was not sustained, and U.S. foreign assistance to Central America was suspended and decreased by nearly 30% from 2016 to 2019, when assistance to the Northern Triangle was just 0.035% of the current federal budget.
When U.S. foreign assistance is integrated into a comprehensive approach to the challenge, these investments improve safety and stability across the region.
OVERVIEW OF U.S. ASSISTANCE IN CENTRAL AMERICA
Approximately 1% of all U.S. foreign assistance goes to Central America, the vast majority of which supports effective and accountable partnerships with vetted non-profit and civil society organizations.
These groups run programs promoting economic and agricultural development, combating violence and empower youth, and fighting corruption.
Only about 2% of American assistance is provided as direct budget support to foreign governments around the world, according to the Congressional Research Service. Programs that support the efforts of Central American governments largely focus on strengthening law enforcement and security.
The following is a high-level summary of U.S. foreign aid investments by country:
El Salvador: Strengthening Citizen Security and the Rule of Law
Guatemala: Promoting Economic Development and Fighting Poverty
Honduras: Promoting Security and Fighting Corruption
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See where the aid goes, who provides and what its for. Notice anything?
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There’s no migrant ‘surge’ at the U.S. southern border. Here’s the data
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/23/theres-no-migrant-surge-us-southern-border-heres-data/
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More than 100,000 migrants encountered at US-Mexico border in past 4 weeks, data shows - CNNPolitics
And what about this? How about some hotel rooms for the half million homeless Americans? And apparently this happened under Trump as well, but he then deported them all.
Biden is spending $86 million on hotel rooms for migrants as his administration struggles to handle the surge of families and kids trying to come to the US (yahoo.com)
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PS: that yahoo article was not only poorly written but appeared as a cut & paste website. I suggest better sources but that’s just me.
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Funny how a dem POTUS brings out the keyboard warriors. Hit the light, will ya?
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