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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,299
    PJPOWER said:
    Do houses with fences around them never get broken into?
    Usually not if they have a big brown dog behind them, lol
    Ha wrong yes they do specially if the would be robbers are carrying their legal guns = Dead Dog 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Do houses with fences around them never get broken into?
    Usually not if they have a big brown dog behind them, lol
    ^scary brown dog.
    Yes, even better, lol
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,606
    edited January 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    edited January 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

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    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here aren’t looney and making up bullshit 
    Sheesh,  all the anti-trump sentiments I read on here seem pretty spot on and neither looney nor bullshit. Ask for clarification and posters freak out. Stop being so sensitive. And yea, walls can be erected to keep people and things in just as well as out, Great Wall of China, Berlin Wall are some examples. The bottom line, Team Trump Treason’s demand for Wall funding and shutting down government is bull shit as are the reasons he gave in his “very interesting” Oval Office address lacking details.
     
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,299
    Everything is Baffoons fault just like it was under Obama !
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    you inferred tempo was a racist for making a comparison of a black person to a dog
    this was YOUR comparison
    when this was pointed out, did you acknowledge it? 
    nope. you deflect it with stuff about trump being a racist. 

    exactly cincy's point. 

    it's getting ridiculous around here. add to that the constant "stop being so sensitive' and passive aggressive 'I was just asking for clarification'  from halifax, and people are rightly getting annoyed with this place. 
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    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    you inferred tempo was a racist for making a comparison of a black person to a dog
    this was YOUR comparison
    when this was pointed out, did you acknowledge it? 
    nope. you deflect it with stuff about trump being a racist. 

    exactly cincy's point. 

    it's getting ridiculous around here. add to that the constant "stop being so sensitive' and passive aggressive 'I was just asking for clarification'  from halifax, and people are rightly getting annoyed with this place. 
    I was. Sorry that bothers you. I explained why I was asking for clarification. I’m surprised you didn’t accuse me of making you out to be a dog kicker though. Goes both ways there.
     
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here aren’t looney and making up bullshit 
    Sheesh,  all the anti-trump sentiments I read on here seem pretty spot on and neither looney nor bullshit. Ask for clarification and posters freak out. Stop being so sensitive. And yea, walls can be erected to keep people and things in just as well as out, Great Wall of China, Berlin Wall are some examples. The bottom line, Team Trump Treason’s demand for Wall funding and shutting down government is bull shit as are the reasons he gave in his “very interesting” Oval Office address lacking details.
     
    It didn’t even address what I was talking about at all. Just pivoting to trump and his wall.

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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    You are looney as shit. You made up the terms, made the comparison and then blamed someone else and attacked them as a racist. Looney as hell.

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,539
    edited January 2019
    Now now... let's not get the thread locked. 
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    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    You are looney as shit. You made up the terms, made the comparison and then blamed someone else and attacked them as a racist. Looney as hell.

    Would you agree that there is a small, medium, large or none at all element of racism behind Team Trump Treason’s demand for a wall?
     
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    You are looney as shit. You made up the terms, made the comparison and then blamed someone else and attacked them as a racist. Looney as hell.

    Would you agree that there is a small, medium, large or none at all element of racism behind Team Trump Treason’s demand for a wall?
     
    What does that have to do with what we are talking about? Other than people projecting trumps views onto other people if they won’t just demonize everything?

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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    PJ_Soul said:
    Now now... let's not get the thread locked. 
    Yeah calling someone else a racist when you make all the shit up is ok...but pointing it out gets the thread locked? Screw that.
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    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    You are looney as shit. You made up the terms, made the comparison and then blamed someone else and attacked them as a racist. Looney as hell.

    Would you agree that there is a small, medium, large or none at all element of racism behind Team Trump Treason’s demand for a wall?
     
    What does that have to do with what we are talking about? Other than people projecting trumps views onto other people if they won’t just demonize everything?

    Thread integrity, trying to stay on topic?
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    You are looney as shit. You made up the terms, made the comparison and then blamed someone else and attacked them as a racist. Looney as hell.

    Would you agree that there is a small, medium, large or none at all element of racism behind Team Trump Treason’s demand for a wall?
     
    What does that have to do with what we are talking about? Other than people projecting trumps views onto other people if they won’t just demonize everything?

    Thread integrity, trying to stay on topic?
    I think for trump the wall and immigration is probably at least a little racist though more likely looking down on poor people. I think the lack of immigration reform for years is because the republicans like to use it to drive voters and the democrats like to use it to manipulate their voters as well. 


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    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    You are looney as shit. You made up the terms, made the comparison and then blamed someone else and attacked them as a racist. Looney as hell.

    Would you agree that there is a small, medium, large or none at all element of racism behind Team Trump Treason’s demand for a wall?
     
    What does that have to do with what we are talking about? Other than people projecting trumps views onto other people if they won’t just demonize everything?

    Thread integrity, trying to stay on topic?
    I think for trump the wall and immigration is probably at least a little racist though more likely looking down on poor people. I think the lack of immigration reform for years is because the republicans like to use it to drive voters and the democrats like to use it to manipulate their voters as well. 


    Repub owned businesses and corporations like the cheap sources of labor. That’s why a repub congress and administration didn’t vote to build a wall. Not to mention that repubs don’t think it’s a practical solution. Great campaign theme, not a great reality.
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    edited January 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    Now now... let's not get the thread locked. 
    Yeah calling someone else a racist when you make all the shit up is ok...but pointing it out gets the thread locked? Screw that.
    I was talking to everyone. That's why I didn't quote anybody. But you know how and why theads get locked as well as I do. Also, I didn't see anyone actually get called a racist. It more seemed like they were suggesting the words came off as racist, which isn't the same thing. But FWIW, calling a racist a racist (Tempo isn't one) is not the same as calling someone names because you're mad at them.
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    edited January 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    And then a big brown shark came...


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    mrussel1 said:
    And then a big brown shark came...


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    CM189191 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think the real point here is that a fence around someone's lawn has no fucking relation to the border wall situation at all.
    I think the real point is yet another person shitting on someone else just because they said something that wasn’t 100% anti-trump looney bullshit 
    What’s been said of Team Trump Treason that’s looney or bullshit?
    Not what I said. But whenever anyone says something that doesn’t fall in line with blaming trump for everything...or they criticize the people on “the other side” for anything or they criticize someone for making their own false equivalencies that try to make trump the devil himself...people jump all over them. 


    You used the terms “looney” and “bullshit” as they relate to anti-trump sentiment. I’m asking you, of which you refer, what was looney or bullshit?        
                                   
    Read what I just wrote. Sheesh. People are being looney and making up bullshit to attack people. The fucking “scary brown people” dog comparison bullshit. Not trumps. People here are looney and making up bullshit 

    edit: sorry you weren’t nasty in your question. Just frustrated. 

    • tRUmp literally began his  campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
    • In June 2017, tRUmp said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.
    • tRUmp called for less immigration from shit-holes like Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
    • Jr tweeted yesterday suggesting that zoos work because they have walls

    I'm not looney and making up shit.  tRUmp is a racist.  

    Anyone supporting tRUmp and wall, is supporting structural racism.  Stuff like this becomes ingrained in our society and becomes aprt of who we are.  See also : 2nd Amendment & Electoral College.  

    Where does the wall stop?  We are groped at the airport and everywhere within 100 miles of the border is already a secure zone where you are subject to search and seizure without probable cause.  And now being asked to pay for some stupid wall for some stupid manufactured emergency.
    You are looney as shit. You made up the terms, made the comparison and then blamed someone else and attacked them as a racist. Looney as hell.

    Would you agree that there is a small, medium, large or none at all element of racism behind Team Trump Treason’s demand for a wall?
     

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    brianlux said:
    Oh man that would truly be great I’d consider trying to attend , if only he could be there today performing it on the Mexico side ..
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793

    I think for trump the wall and immigration is probably at least a little racist though more likely looking down on poor people. I think the lack of immigration reform for years is because the republicans like to use it to drive voters and the democrats like to use it to manipulate their voters as well. 


    what is it with the constant 'both sides are bad' narrative?

    democrats have actually recently proposed and enacted immigration reform. (see : DREAM act & DACA)

    republicans only seem to be interested in stopping immigration entirely.

    to republicans there is no such thing as legal immigration, just illegal immigration that hasn't been stopped yet. 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,108
    CM189191 said:

    I think for trump the wall and immigration is probably at least a little racist though more likely looking down on poor people. I think the lack of immigration reform for years is because the republicans like to use it to drive voters and the democrats like to use it to manipulate their voters as well. 


    what is it with the constant 'both sides are bad' narrative?

    democrats have actually recently proposed and enacted immigration reform. (see : DREAM act & DACA)

    republicans only seem to be interested in stopping immigration entirely.

    to republicans there is no such thing as legal immigration, just illegal immigration that hasn't been stopped yet. 
    Not on every issue, but on immigration I believe both sides have been historically bad.
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