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THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
edited July 2009 in The Porch
If they released Got Some as the first single and had The Fixer as a non -album B-side, everyone on this board would be saying that the Fixer is the best song ever and that it should have been on the record. Instead, people here are pissing and moaning that PJ has lost it and that they will never listen again and that Target wrote the song and that Pj is just performing it. Relax people, its just a song...2 minutes of drum, guitar and voice. Not the end all be all that some of you put in a PJ release. Relax, the sun will rise again and the fixer is not gonna fix all your problems and pull America out of the economic downturn. Lets all breath and listen to Yield. God Speed.
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  • over bendsover bends Posts: 1,568
    And if U had been just released, it would have been awesome.
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    and Sad and All night...come on people, its a catchy tune when played loud. Try it.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    THEBIBLEISTEN wrote:
    If they released Got Some as the first single and had The Fixer as a non -album B-side, everyone on this board would be saying that the Fixer is the best song ever and that it should have been on the record.


    You can't really be serious about this. You really think it matters to people what the single is? what the b-side is? what's popular? what's not? what gets radio play? what has a music video? If the song is good I like it and if the song isn't good I don't like it. I don't like The Fixer.
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  • over bendsover bends Posts: 1,568
    Hey, I love it. I just don't see people would be psychological loving this but are prewired to hate lead singles. If it was released as a b-side the haters would still hate the song, because they don't like it.
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  • evanserevanser Posts: 152
    Agreed, its an ok song. Its not Imagine by Lennon but it is not hanging tough NKOTB

    Its a rework of unemployable and it is who PJ is today. Not great but not dog meat.
  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    Touchy, touchy ledbetter, relax, its just a song, not the end of the world. you sound let down? Its not the gospel. Its gunna be ok,
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    THEBIBLEISTEN wrote:
    Touchy, touchy ledbetter, relax, its just a song, not the end of the world. you sound let down? Its not the gospel. Its gunna be ok,

    Read this:
    over bends wrote:
    Hey, I love it. I just don't see people would be psychological loving this but are prewired to hate lead singles. If it was released as a b-side the haters would still hate the song, because they don't like it.

    That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about you and your thinking that it being a single matters.
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    edited July 2009
    violins are playing in the background. i got a shoulder too. And I am serious. People here and maybe not everyone but some would love the Fixer if it was a b side. Cmon, you dont agree just a little?
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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    its just people's opinions... we should just get on with it. Personally I love the track regardless of what anyone else thinks.
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    Zoso wrote:
    its just people's opinions... we should just get on with it. Personally I love the track regardless of what anyone else thinks.

    Thats all that matters, everyone is not going to like everything. I like it, and I am OK with people that don't.
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  • yokeyoke Posts: 1,440
    evanser wrote:
    Agreed, its an ok song. Its not Imagine by Lennon but it is not hanging tough NKOTB

    Its a rework of unemployable and it is who PJ is today. Not great but not dog meat.



    for the record... hanging tough ruled back in the day
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    Thats not the point of the post, its the fact some fans on here would like it more if it was a non album b side...thats the argument.
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    the fact (of my opinion) is, when I first heard it, it was a bit of a letdown. But to say that PJ fans dislike something merely because it is a first single is insulting to the fanbase. We're a bit more intelligent than that. Give the general PJ fan a bit more credit, thebible. Comments like yours are a cancer on message boards.
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    you gotta be kidding. Cancer on the board. hahahahah. people here bitch that the shirts fit too small and that the song sounds too much like Devo and that Ed has gotten chubby..please
  • evanserevanser Posts: 152
    yoke wrote:
    evanser wrote:
    Agreed, its an ok song. Its not Imagine by Lennon but it is not hanging tough NKOTB

    Its a rework of unemployable and it is who PJ is today. Not great but not dog meat.



    for the record... hanging tough ruled back in the day


    you are right, I should have said Milli Vanilli
  • IamBETELIamBETEL Posts: 110
    Really wouldn't matter what Pearl Jam did. Isn't going to make everyone happy. There's some that like/really like this song and there's some that hate/really hate this song. No point in fighting over it.

    Can't please everyone!

    But yeah, I liked Got Some more but I don't really hate this song I enjoy practically any new Pearl Jam music (especially when it's different). :)
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    yeah, that kind of sarcasm and negativity. it's annoying to say the least. And just to clarify, I didn't say YOU were, I said your COMMENTS were.
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    Well said Mate but thats not the point. the point is PJ fans would like this song more if it was a b side. im telling ya. its true. U would have been a bust but because its a b side..its a rare gem
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    THEBIBLEISTEN wrote:
    you gotta be kidding. Cancer on the board. hahahahah. people here bitch that the shirts fit too small and that the song sounds too much like Devo and that Ed has gotten chubby..please

    And yes, I completely agree with your regarding the comments about Ed's supposed weight gain. I thought that was childish and stupid. Completely agreed.
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    yeah, that kind of sarcasm and negativity. it's annoying to say the least. And just to clarify, I didn't say YOU were, I said your COMMENTS were.


    Please, your avoiding the question. You know I have a point. Just think about it. No personal jabs, just think about it. its all good relax
  • evanserevanser Posts: 152
    What if Santa Cruz made the cut and was released the first single - what would we be saying today?
  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,398
    The Fixer would have been appropriate as a B-Side, probably even a track on the album that's NOT a single. But by god, a single? To me it screams DON'T BUY THE ALBUM!
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    my point is proven. thanks
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    I'm quite relaxed, dude, and I didn't hit you with a personal jab. And I already answered your question. I said I didn't much care for the song, but it has nothing to do with it being the first single. I have actually LOVED the first single released on most of the albums. So there goes that theory.

    I think you might have a point if you were referring to the casual PJ fan. Most PJ fans that I know, couldn't give a rats ass if a song is a first single or an unreleased b side. It's judged on the merits of the song alone, not the status the band or its management gives it.
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    sorry, but you can't claim victory from one other person's opinion, dude. that's lame.
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    scroll up, oceansjenny proved my point. thats all i was getting at. I was right.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    THEBIBLEISTEN wrote:
    my point is proven. thanks

    no dude, you say that people who don't like the song would like it if it was a b-side. OceansJenny said it would be appropriate to be a b-side because it's not a good song.
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  • THEBIBLEISTENTHEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 1,940
    Sure i can, i just did.

    I proved my point. Im telling ya. Its true. lets all go back and listen again and re con vene in 10. whose down?
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    I don't think you totally understand the concept of an opinion. It cannot be proven.
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    THEBIBLEISTEN wrote:
    scroll up, oceansjenny proved my point. thats all i was getting at. I was right.

    that's what I was referring to when I said "one other person's opinion".
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