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non album tours are superior

NoCode_1NoCode_1 Posts: 44
edited July 2009 in The Porch
but you do have some on here that somehow think album tours are better. Me i'll take the 05 08 any day of the week.
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  • JK109224JK109224 Posts: 633
    Well I'm sure Canadians and South Americans think 2005 was way better than 2006.
    Come to send, not condescend...
  • TroubledSoulTroubledSoul Posts: 1,367
    and europe 2007.

    which somehow came and went... and wouldve provided a few of the best bootlegs in the last 5 yrs.
    Yeh I've seen Pearl Jam, too. But I can't remember the dates.
  • evanserevanser Posts: 152
    i agree - it allows them to experiment with some songs they have not played in a while and test out new music a la Gone - Borgata
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    a PJ show is a PJ show no matter what they're supporting or not supporting.... it's always amazing.
  • ZidaneZidane Ottawa Posts: 362
    JK109224 wrote:
    Well I'm sure Canadians and South Americans think 2005 was way better than 2006.

    Without any doubt! Ottawa 05 (who would've thought...!) was one of the best shows I've seen!!!
    You're not what you own - Ian MacKaye, Fugazi

    98 - Montreal
    00 - Montreal
    03 - Toronto, Montreal
    04 - Boston (Show #1)
    05 - Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
    06 - Toronto (Show #1)
    09 - Toronto, Philly (Show #3-4)
    10 - Cleveland
    11 - Montreal, Toronto (x2), Ottawa
    13 - London (ON), Philly (x2)
    16 - QC - Ottawa

  • YieldToNothingYieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    no such thing as a bad pj show but i wholeheartedly agree. this band is so much better when their only agenda is to melt our faces.

    05 tour pisses on everyone...in a good way!
    i have a paper here that entitles me to fast track status
  • einatshauleinatshaul Posts: 2,219
    Ah Ah...

    !PRE-Album tours ROCK!

    Bring on Euro 2009!!!!!! :D
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    einatshaul wrote:
    Ah Ah...

    !PRE-Album tours ROCK!

    Bring on Euro 2009!!!!!! :D
    please Einat..open the people eyes,,,please..there are blind.. :D
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • FatalFatal Posts: 821
    Well i'm working on a small sample size here, but yes the two shows i saw in 05 and the two i saw in 08 were FAR better than the 06 show.

    So technically is the Toronto 09 show an "album tour" show or "non album tour" show?
    Shows: Montreal 98, Barrie 98, Montreal 00, Montreal 03, Montreal 05, Ottawa 05, Toronto 06, Vancouver Night 1 08 (EV), Vancouver Night 2 08 (EV), MSG1 08, MSG2 08, Montreal Night 2 08 (EV), Toronto Night 1 08 (EV), Toronto 09, Hartford 11 (EV), Ottawa 11, Ottawa 16, Ottawa 22.


  • FatalFatal Posts: 821
    Zidane wrote:
    Without any doubt! Ottawa 05 (who would've thought...!) was one of the best shows I've seen!!!

    Of the 9 shows i've seen this one was the best!
    Shows: Montreal 98, Barrie 98, Montreal 00, Montreal 03, Montreal 05, Ottawa 05, Toronto 06, Vancouver Night 1 08 (EV), Vancouver Night 2 08 (EV), MSG1 08, MSG2 08, Montreal Night 2 08 (EV), Toronto Night 1 08 (EV), Toronto 09, Hartford 11 (EV), Ottawa 11, Ottawa 16, Ottawa 22.


  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,068
    JK109224 wrote:
    Well I'm sure Canadians and South Americans think 2005 was way better than 2006.

    don't think one can really compare the '05 and '06 tours, because both were strong on their own merits,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • YieldToNothingYieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    06 tour was kinda weak, pacer

    not weak for mortals, but weak for pearl jam
    i have a paper here that entitles me to fast track status
  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    I don't give a flying fuck!...as long as i have a show to go to i am happy!!
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,068
    YieldToNothing wrote:
    06 tour was kinda weak, pacer

    not weak for mortals, but weak for pearl jam

    can't argue against your opinion, but it definitely had some great moments and great shows,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • ZidaneZidane Ottawa Posts: 362
    Fatal wrote:
    Well i'm working on a small sample size here, but yes the two shows i saw in 05 and the two i saw in 08 were FAR better than the 06 show.

    So technically is the Toronto 09 show an "album tour" show or "non album tour" show?

    Hahaha!!! I was wondering about that too!!! Does that mean that because we haven't heard the album, it's a "non album tour" or because we know 2 songs already, plus the name of the album, it doesn't count...?! Still, I'm pretty sure the show will kick ass. Last time they were at the Molson Amp (2003), they ripped the place apart!!! Poor Santana; I think he was playing the night after or something like that!!!
    You're not what you own - Ian MacKaye, Fugazi

    98 - Montreal
    00 - Montreal
    03 - Toronto, Montreal
    04 - Boston (Show #1)
    05 - Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto
    06 - Toronto (Show #1)
    09 - Toronto, Philly (Show #3-4)
    10 - Cleveland
    11 - Montreal, Toronto (x2), Ottawa
    13 - London (ON), Philly (x2)
    16 - QC - Ottawa

  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    I don't give a flying fuck!...as long as i have a show to go to i am happy!!
    the man said it all,, :D end of the story..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Stephen Flow wrote:
    a PJ show is a PJ show no matter what they're supporting or not supporting.... it's always amazing.

    i'll agree with this. :mrgreen:

    i am soooo ready for some new material. it was great getting to hear some rare gems the past couple years, but even that.....go to a few shows and you heard the same rarities. :P don't get me wrong, no complaints.....always LOVe pearl jam live, but sure....guess i was very fortunate, saw them all these past few years, a few shows each year.....and yea....i am sooo ready for some new pearl jam music LIVE!
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  • MG79478MG79478 Posts: 1,677
    I prefer non-album tours also. Love hearing the rare gems that pop up. Granted, we did get Leash on the Avocado tour. So that is the best of both worlds, especially when you are at the show where they bring Leash back, debut Parachutes, and throw in smile for good measure!

    There is no way, we will get "no way" on this tour, so that sucks. I'll "settle" for Oceans, and the entire new album played over the Toronto and the Spectrum shows.
  • crowbarstomyheadcrowbarstomyhead Posts: 36
    100% agree. Loved the '08 tour
  • igotpjigotpj Posts: 187
    Stephen Flow wrote:
    a PJ show is a PJ show no matter what they're supporting or not supporting.... it's always amazing.
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Gorge '05 was the best show I have ever seen, and I have seen a lot. But the '06 run in SF was primo too.
  • over bendsover bends Posts: 1,568
    I think if you're a setlist lover, non album tours are the way to go, but I think they definitely sound tighter on album tours.
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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    einatshaul wrote:
    Ah Ah...

    !PRE-Album tours ROCK!

    Bring on Euro 2009!!!!!! :D

    +1
  • Tremor-ChrisTremor-Chris Posts: 233
    I'd have to agree and disagree somewhat that non album tours are better. Now I always have an amazing time at every PJ show I go to. But I'd have to agree that some of the best shows I've seen were in 'O5 and '08, and I like how it gives them a little more room to experiment with songs they don't usually play as they don't feel a need a play a bunch of songs of the new album. But every tour, even the ones promoting albums are great and always have a few really outstanding shows, Mansfiled (Boston) '03 for example.

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