Why do major bands release e.p.'s?

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited June 2009 in Other Music
I understand why a small band or a band without a recording contract yet, would have e.p.'s as it allows them to show off to both music venues, potential record label suitors and have something for people to purchase after they play a show, but why do major bands create and release them?

Like, for example, one of the most anticipated albums of the summer, isnt even an album, its the new Modest Mouse e.p. Why would they release an e.p.? The songs I have heard on it, are stellar and as good as anything they have put out on full lengths, but I dont understand why they would bother with this and ot just focus on a LP?

Indeed in these times of the nonexistant profit bands recieve from cd's, its puzzling to me, why they would even bother releasing something that will make LESS money than a full length would, plus take into account what I mentioned above, the fact that few people actually buy cd's anymore, and fewer still buy e.p.'s.
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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    My guess would be that people can't always turn on inspiration like turning on the faucet.
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  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    justam wrote:
    My guess would be that people can't always turn on inspiration like turning on the faucet.


    and thats fine. But why not wait until you have enough material for a full length then? As I said, few people buy cd's anymore, and fewer still buy e.p.s, why waste time on making a record that isnt going to make any money and isnt going to be heard by many people.
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    i have a huge record collection. Thousands of records. And I cant think of a single one thats an e.p. maybe I am, unique in this fact, but when buying or downloading records I always skipped looking into stuff that was e.p. length. why spend 8 bucks or whatever on something with 6 songs? Why not just spend the 20 bucks or whatever for 12-14 songs?

    And it often seems that songs on e.p.s dont appear on full lengths. So maybe its a fan thing. That bands want to give the hard core fans something. It almost is like if a song appears on an e.p. it WONT appear on a full length.
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Play

    interesting read.

    "Alice in Chains is the first band to ever have an EP reach #1 on Billboard album chart. The EP, Jar of Flies was released January 25, 1994. Linkin Park and Jay-Z's collaboration EP, Collision Course, was the next and latest to have reached the #1 spot after Alice in Chains."
  • dustinparduedustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    maybe the songs on the EP just don't fit into the scheme of a previous album or one that is being worked on
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  • dustinparduedustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    for instance if PJ had 5 songs that just didn't quite "fit" the new record, then we would be elated with an EP next year
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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    Sigur Ros have a few EPs...one called "Rímur" and one called "Ba Ba Ti Ki Di Do".....they were released in between albums, but the band had a few songs and wanted to release them. Sometimes artists do a session, or write songs...and just want to release it as a stand-alone piece, without having the pressure of having to write an album.

    Or EPs can be made as an accompanying piece to an album soon to be released. ("BatCat" by Mogwai).

    There are plenty of bands who do this, be it with EPs or singles that dont appear on albums.

    There's lots of reasons, and why assume that it costs loads? It's more likely that it cost them much less, recorded it in far less time, & with far less effort than it takes to do a whole album.
  • lephtylephty Posts: 770
    i wouldnt care if a band i loved released 1 song at a time!

    if you could choose, would you rather wait 2ish years for a new pearl jam album with 12 new songs or would you want a new song every 2 months released?

    i think the later would be a good way to gain/regain exposure. songs would create a buzz and people would anticipate the new song in 2 months!
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    maybe the songs on the EP just don't fit into the scheme of a previous album or one that is being worked on
    One of my thoughts that answers the question posed by the original poster
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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    JordyWordy wrote:
    Sigur Ros have a few EPs...one called "Rímur" and one called "Ba Ba Ti Ki Di Do".....they were released in between albums, but the band had a few songs and wanted to release them. Sometimes artists do a session, or write songs...and just want to release it as a stand-alone piece, without having the pressure of having to write an album.

    Or EPs can be made as an accompanying piece to an album soon to be released. ("BatCat" by Mogwai).

    There are plenty of bands who do this, be it with EPs or singles that dont appear on albums.

    There's lots of reasons, and why assume that it costs loads? It's more likely that it cost them much less, recorded it in far less time, & with far less effort than it takes to do a whole album.


    the Brian Jonestown Massacre have a few EPs, as well.

    although, Ba Ba Ti Ki Di Do was written for a ballet or some dance group and then released as an EP

    sometimes they are b-sides, like Radiohead's My Iron Lung EP
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  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,633
    maybe the songs on the EP just don't fit into the scheme of a previous album or one that is being worked on

    I agree with this. Occasionally a collection of songs with a similar theme or feel are better together than lost on a full album. The best examples are "Jar Of Flies" and "Sap" by Alice In Chains. Both are amazing discs that would not have had the same impact if they had been part of a full album and provide an interesting snapshot of the band at that particular moment in time. John Frusciante's "DC ep", Afghan Whigs' "Uptown Avondale" and Foy Vance's eps are some of my favourite eps.

    I also agree with the guys that said an ep is something a little bit special while we wait for an album. If a full album isn't ready, but some songs are complete and sound good together, put out an ep. We didn't need PJ's "Live at Easy Street" but that doesn't stop it being a great record
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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    goldrush wrote:
    John Frusciante's "DC ep", Afghan Whigs' "Uptown Avondale" and Foy Vance's eps are some of my favourite eps.

    Wow, not often I see Foy Vance mentioned on here. Are you Irish or is he making a name for himself abroad?
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,633
    JordyWordy wrote:
    goldrush wrote:
    John Frusciante's "DC ep", Afghan Whigs' "Uptown Avondale" and Foy Vance's eps are some of my favourite eps.

    Wow, not often I see Foy Vance mentioned on here. Are you Irish or is he making a name for himself abroad?

    I'm Welsh but I 've been a huge fan since the first "Live Sessions..." ep. He's an absolute genius, a real poet. Indiscriminate Act of Kindness has some of the most amazing lyrics I've heard in years.

    I met him after one of his gigs in Oxford a few weeks ago, what an amazingly nice guy. I know he's got a decent sized fanbase in New York and Sydney too, I've got friends there who keep talking about him
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  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    There's no rule that recorded music needs to be presented in blocks that are CD length - when vinyl stopped being the dominant media, bands also got away from 'side 1' and 'side 2'. As media changes, presentation of work changes.
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,711
    JaneNY wrote:
    There's no rule that recorded music needs to be presented in blocks that are CD length - when vinyl stopped being the dominant media, bands also got away from 'side 1' and 'side 2'. As media changes, presentation of work changes.

    As soon as I saw JaneNY and e.p., I immediately thought you'd mention "Broken", by NIN.....great e.p. !!
  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,711
    JaneNY wrote:
    There's no rule that recorded music needs to be presented in blocks that are CD length - when vinyl stopped being the dominant media, bands also got away from 'side 1' and 'side 2'. As media changes, presentation of work changes.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    JaneNY wrote:
    There's no rule that recorded music needs to be presented in blocks that are CD length - when vinyl stopped being the dominant media, bands also got away from 'side 1' and 'side 2'. As media changes, presentation of work changes.

    As soon as I saw JaneNY and e.p., I immediately thought you'd mention "Broken", by NIN.....great e.p. !!

    Haha - I admit it was going through my mind. Broken is one of my favorite pieces of NIN work.
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