Not reading the article but I'm wondering if anyone heard actual Native Americans get interviewed about this on NPR? They are all a wee bit upset at the whole thing.
Just read the article, man I can see why we can never get anything done. It's amazing that you can get 10 different answers from the same test and nothing is conclusive... Makes me wonder how people actually get committed from DNA testing for crimes.
Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
You know, I actually admire the way you stand your ground and fight for your opinions in these threads despite being so outnumbered. But come on, man. Obviously he's saying that you can't defend Trump who constantly lies and then get on Warren's case for this lie.
I can't believe the Dems are actually considering her as a possible 2020 candidate. And that has nothing to do with Native American Ancestry (or lack thereof). If Hillary, with all her power and money, couldn't win, how could a poor man's Hillary have a chance?
Agreed. Another fucking fossil on the ballot. (She'll be a septuagenarian in 2020.) And I actually like love Warren, but I'd never vote for her old ass.
I love my grandma, but I won't even get in a car that she's driving.
If that becomes a general issue then I really will be convinced that Hillary lost because she's a woman.
Speaking for myself: I'm not sexist; I'm ageist.
I like Hillary, too. And I would've voted for her over her dickhead husband a thousand times over in the nineties, but not in 2016.
I wasn't suggesting you're a sexist. It's just that Trump was over 70 when he won the election, and his age really wasn't an issue at all for either side. So if that age suddenly becomes an issue when it's a female candidate, that would tell me it is indeed a sexist thing in general.
Since we've sadly only had dicks running the show in the White House, I can only be informed by how much more awful those dicks have been in my lifetime when they're older dicks.
Gender (again) sadly doesn't, nay, can't inform my opinion based on past performance running the show in the White House.
Well, there have been a couple young dicks too.
And, for the most part, they did better jobs than the old dicks. For the most part.
Why would it even be a question whether or not women could perform
adequately btw? Why would one need to consider that there is a lack
of reference based on past performances? That suggests there really is a
thought process going on that is asking, "Could a woman really pull
this off?"
Not part of my process at all. In fact, if you read closely, I said that it actually (and sadly) can't be part of my process.
I was raised by women. Nearly everyone I look up to is a woman. If anything, I think women can do most things better than men. So maybe I am sexist, too--just not the way you might be implying.
If you're barking up my tree, you have simply picked the wrong tree. It actually couldn't be more wrong. Plenty of other squirrels to chase, though.
Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
You have shown us all that lying is normally okay with you because you spread lies on a regular basis, consume media that lies on a regular basis, and refuse to speak against what is probably the biggest liar on the face of the planet.
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Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
Oooooooo, code. I love it when you post in code. Oooooooooooo.
Trump Derangement Syndrome.
A known side effect is assuming anyone that disagrees with your radical leftist agenda supports him without question. Another is widespread screeching every time he sends a tweet. But seriously keep it up, keep up the riots, keep up the accusations without evidence, keep up the lunacy, you’ll just get another four years for your prize.
Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
Oooooooo, code. I love it when you post in code. Oooooooooooo.
Trump Derangement Syndrome.
A known side effect is assuming anyone that disagrees with your radical leftist agenda supports him without question. Another is widespread screeching every time he sends a tweet. But seriously keep it up, keep up the riots, keep up the accusations without evidence, keep up the lunacy, you’ll just get another four years for your prize.
I have never thought that you support Trump without question, nor that anyone who disagrees with my very reasonable liberal views is automatically a Trump supporter... But if you actually thought this about me, is that ever you, the pot, calling the kettle black, lol. Just that post alone shows that you're doing exactly what you're accusing me of.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Reagan was 69 when he took office. Trump is 70. But God forbid we have a 70 year old Democratic old woman run for president. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooo!!!
And Reagan's second term was a fucking shitshow, with poor old Nancy changing the goddamn diapers. And we know how Trump's faculties are holding up.
People age differently. I know or know of people well into there 70's who are sharp, smart as a tack and graced by years of wisdom.
Some examples:
Wendell Berry: A well known and respected long time bookseller recently told me, "Wendell Berry [who is 84 years old] is the greatest living writer in America today. Berry is still producing fine works.
John Muir: Muir was still doing great writing into his 70's
Judi Dench: still doing great work at 83
I know this very well, Brian. But I'm not taking that chance with the leader of the free world, especially when the 25th Amendment was apparently just written for shits and giggles.
I'm just ageist when it comes down to something like this. I own it. I think it's pragmatic more than anything.
Reagan was 69 when he took office. Trump is 70. But God forbid we have a 70 year old Democratic old woman run for president. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooo!!!
And Reagan's second term was a fucking shitshow, with poor old Nancy changing the goddamn diapers. And we know how Trump's faculties are holding up.
People age differently. I know or know of people well into there 70's who are sharp, smart as a tack and graced by years of wisdom.
Some examples:
Wendell Berry: A well known and respected long time bookseller recently told me, "Wendell Berry [who is 84 years old] is the greatest living writer in America today. Berry is still producing fine works.
John Muir: Muir was still doing great writing into his 70's
Judi Dench: still doing great work at 83
I know this very well, Brian. But I'm not taking that chance with the leader of the free world, especially when the 25th Amendment was apparently just written for shits and giggles.
I'm just ageist when it comes down to something like this. I own it. I think it's pragmatic more than anything.
Well... it's just ageist. I'm sure sexists think they're being pragmatic too.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
Oooooooo, code. I love it when you post in code. Oooooooooooo.
Here I'll translate...
Oh Jared dear boy, where are you Jared? Jared? It's time for cookies and milk. Now Jared dear boy, where ave I ever said lying is ok? Go get your wife and get back to me on that. You'll find her if you follow the $ all the way to impeachment and a PTape. And dear Jared, I know you are upset, but please do not take your being upset at something else to project you anger on me....Jared dear boy that would be unfair.
"Ms. Warren defended herself by saying she was not claiming to be
eligible for membership in the Cherokee Nation — and she isn’t, given
that her ancestors do not appear on the Dawes Rolls, early-20th-century
government documents that form the basis of the Cherokee citizenship
process. She said she was simply corroborating the family stories of
Native American lineage that she has often recounted."
If she did put her ancestry down as Native-American in any resumes or school applications than it's end game for her as a Presidential candidate. They'll find it if it exists too.
Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
Oooooooo, code. I love it when you post in code. Oooooooooooo.
Trump Derangement Syndrome.
A known side effect is assuming anyone that disagrees with your radical leftist agenda supports him without question. Another is widespread screeching every time he sends a tweet. But seriously keep it up, keep up the riots, keep up the accusations without evidence, keep up the lunacy, you’ll just get another four years for your prize.
Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
You know, I actually admire the way you stand your ground and fight for your opinions in these threads despite being so outnumbered. But come on, man. Obviously he's saying that you can't defend Trump who constantly lies and then get on Warren's case for this lie.
That would require having at least one foot in reality. Ain’t happening.
Reagan was 69 when he took office. Trump is 70. But God forbid we have a 70 year old Democratic old woman run for president. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooo!!!
And Reagan's second term was a fucking shitshow, with poor old Nancy changing the goddamn diapers. And we know how Trump's faculties are holding up.
People age differently. I know or know of people well into there 70's who are sharp, smart as a tack and graced by years of wisdom.
Some examples:
Wendell Berry: A well known and respected long time bookseller recently told me, "Wendell Berry [who is 84 years old] is the greatest living writer in America today. Berry is still producing fine works.
John Muir: Muir was still doing great writing into his 70's
Judi Dench: still doing great work at 83
I know this very well, Brian. But I'm not taking that chance with the leader of the free world, especially when the 25th Amendment was apparently just written for shits and giggles.
I'm just ageist when it comes down to something like this. I own it. I think it's pragmatic more than anything.
Well... it's just ageist. I'm sure sexists think they're being pragmatic too.
Ignoring you once again (or trying to anyway) tagging anything I've written with sexism--apparently, I'm not communicating well, so I'll stop after this--but I'll just ask, where's our dreamy, cool-sock-wearing young-ish person who would have a chance on the presidential ticket (for either party)?
So far, I've heard Trump, Warren, Biden, even Sanders. Holy shit! will those last two even be alive in 2020?
Is Kamala considering? Booker? Hickenlooper? Klobuchar? Cuomo?
Not reading the article but I'm wondering if anyone heard actual Native Americans get interviewed about this on NPR? They are all a wee bit upset at the whole thing.
Just read the article, man I can see why we can never get anything done. It's amazing that you can get 10 different answers from the same test and nothing is conclusive... Makes me wonder how people actually get committed from DNA testing for crimes.
Identifying someone based on DNA is infinitely more accurate than trying to identify exactly how far back heritage goes. Your DNA is yours, more unique than a fingerprint. But since each parent does not donate exactly half their DNA and is more or less random, its impossible to tell from DNA exactly how far back your heritage goes. You can get a statistical range, if you are 5% Jewish it is unlikely either parent was full Jewish, and also unlikely that it went back more than 5 or 6 generations. That's why they gave a range, based on amount. I think the estimate was 6-10 generations for Warren. That was based on how much Native American DNA was found and the acceptable range that it would take to dilute down to her levels.
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Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
Oooooooo, code. I love it when you post in code. Oooooooooooo.
Trump Derangement Syndrome.
A known side effect is assuming anyone that disagrees with your radical leftist agenda supports him without question. Another is widespread screeching every time he sends a tweet. But seriously keep it up, keep up the riots, keep up the accusations without evidence, keep up the lunacy, you’ll just get another four years for your prize.
More lies and more damn lies!
If you say so.
Want to bet if he gets the nom in 2020 that he wins re-election?
Are you going to show me where I ever said lying was ok or are you just going to project your TDS more?
Oooooooo, code. I love it when you post in code. Oooooooooooo.
Trump Derangement Syndrome.
A known side effect is assuming anyone that disagrees with your radical leftist agenda supports him without question. Another is widespread screeching every time he sends a tweet. But seriously keep it up, keep up the riots, keep up the accusations without evidence, keep up the lunacy, you’ll just get another four years for your prize.
More lies and more damn lies!
If you say so.
Want to bet if he gets the nom in 2020 that he wins re-election?
Why would I bet against the stupidity of the American voter? With or without a putin on the ritz assist?
Reagan was 69 when he took office. Trump is 70. But God forbid we have a 70 year old Democratic old woman run for president. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooo!!!
And Reagan's second term was a fucking shitshow, with poor old Nancy changing the goddamn diapers. And we know how Trump's faculties are holding up.
People age differently. I know or know of people well into there 70's who are sharp, smart as a tack and graced by years of wisdom.
Some examples:
Wendell Berry: A well known and respected long time bookseller recently told me, "Wendell Berry [who is 84 years old] is the greatest living writer in America today. Berry is still producing fine works.
John Muir: Muir was still doing great writing into his 70's
Judi Dench: still doing great work at 83
I know this very well, Brian. But I'm not taking that chance with the leader of the free world, especially when the 25th Amendment was apparently just written for shits and giggles.
I'm just ageist when it comes down to something like this. I own it. I think it's pragmatic more than anything.
Well... it's just ageist. I'm sure sexists think they're being pragmatic too.
Ignoring you once again (or trying to anyway) tagging anything I've written with sexism--apparently, I'm not communicating well, so I'll stop after this--but I'll just ask, where's our dreamy, cool-sock-wearing young-ish person who would have a chance on the presidential ticket (for either party)?
So far, I've heard Trump, Warren, Biden, even Sanders. Holy shit! will those last two even be alive in 2020?
Is Kamala considering? Booker? Hickenlooper? Klobuchar? Cuomo?
Wow. I have never once thought you're sexist, so I have no clue where you're getting that from. If I do happen to be referencing sexism in reply to your posts a lot, it's not deliberate or targeted in any way, and I'm truly not aware of it ... If that's how it's turning out, well, maybe shit you say warrants it, one way or another?
But in any case, I don't know what you mean by "tagging". I used the comparison because I thought it was apt.
Anyway, I'm not sure how you'd like someone to respond to openly ageist posts. Don't get me wrong, some old people totally aren't fit for office, but if they actually make it far enough to be nominated, it's certainly not because they don't have all their faculties (normally - Trump is the exception to every rule). I think some old people aren't fit for the position just because their views are way outdated because they aren't the type of person who can absorb new ideas and concepts. They can't move with the times. But other older people can do that perfectly well, so it's not their actual age that I'm focusing on. It's the ability to be open to new things and ideas.
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I'm just against unstable, childish idiots running for president. Age is all relative. By all accounts, Trump should be dead based on his lifestyle. The only reason he isn't is because he has money.
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Not reading the article but I'm wondering if anyone heard actual Native Americans get interviewed about this on NPR? They are all a wee bit upset at the whole thing.
Just read the article, man I can see why we can never get anything done. It's amazing that you can get 10 different answers from the same test and nothing is conclusive... Makes me wonder how people actually get committed from DNA testing for crimes.
A completely different situation scientifically. Matching DNA from a crime scene to DNA from a suspect is far, far more precise than all the variables of trying to look at multiple different genes that may or may not be more or less associated with different ethnic groups.
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Given the alternatives we have so far, I would take EW as president WAY (that's "way" in massive sized font) more than what we have going now. I've never really heard much if anything negative about her and now all of the sudden all these disparaging comments coming out of the woodwork. Fickle Fucking America.
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I'm just against unstable, childish idiots running for president. Age is all relative. By all accounts, Trump should be dead based on his lifestyle. The only reason he isn't is because he has money.
Age is a factor because health is a factor. It's a tough job. Not saying an older person cannot do it and do it well....deal with the stress. But look at how much it aged recent presidents Obama, W, Clinton. It's a grind. So age is certainly a concern as it plays into health and capacity. Not the only factor however.
Age also comes into play as PJSoul mentioned due to willingness for new ideas. Again, being older doesn;t mean you can;t be open to new ideas....but it certainly means if you are, you are part of a minority.
I would think the perfect age for a president in late 40's or early to mid 50's. Time for experience and knowledge, but young enough for grind and open to new idea. All that said, everyone is different so you can;t only go off of age. I'd still vote for the 75 year old that I think has better ideas over a 48 year old in perfect health.
Not reading the article but I'm wondering if anyone heard actual Native Americans get interviewed about this on NPR? They are all a wee bit upset at the whole thing.
As they should be but they are missing the actual torpedo that hit North Dakota tribes being able to vote that’s what they should be up in arms about ! GOP has actually made it almost impossible for native Americans to vote in the state !
Not reading the article but I'm wondering if anyone heard actual Native Americans get interviewed about this on NPR? They are all a wee bit upset at the whole thing.
Just read the article, man I can see why we can never get anything done. It's amazing that you can get 10 different answers from the same test and nothing is conclusive... Makes me wonder how people actually get committed from DNA testing for crimes.
Identifying someone based on DNA is infinitely more accurate than trying to identify exactly how far back heritage goes. Your DNA is yours, more unique than a fingerprint. But since each parent does not donate exactly half their DNA and is more or less random, its impossible to tell from DNA exactly how far back your heritage goes. You can get a statistical range, if you are 5% Jewish it is unlikely either parent was full Jewish, and also unlikely that it went back more than 5 or 6 generations. That's why they gave a range, based on amount. I think the estimate was 6-10 generations for Warren. That was based on how much Native American DNA was found and the acceptable range that it would take to dilute down to her levels.
It was all tongue in cheek... Satire doesn't go over well via text.
Not reading the article but I'm wondering if anyone heard actual Native Americans get interviewed about this on NPR? They are all a wee bit upset at the whole thing.
Just read the article, man I can see why we can never get anything done. It's amazing that you can get 10 different answers from the same test and nothing is conclusive... Makes me wonder how people actually get committed from DNA testing for crimes.
A completely different situation scientifically. Matching DNA from a crime scene to DNA from a suspect is far, far more precise than all the variables of trying to look at multiple different genes that may or may not be more or less associated with different ethnic groups.
Not reading the article but I'm wondering if anyone heard actual Native Americans get interviewed about this on NPR? They are all a wee bit upset at the whole thing.
Just read the article, man I can see why we can never get anything done. It's amazing that you can get 10 different answers from the same test and nothing is conclusive... Makes me wonder how people actually get committed from DNA testing for crimes.
Identifying someone based on DNA is infinitely more accurate than trying to identify exactly how far back heritage goes. Your DNA is yours, more unique than a fingerprint. But since each parent does not donate exactly half their DNA and is more or less random, its impossible to tell from DNA exactly how far back your heritage goes. You can get a statistical range, if you are 5% Jewish it is unlikely either parent was full Jewish, and also unlikely that it went back more than 5 or 6 generations. That's why they gave a range, based on amount. I think the estimate was 6-10 generations for Warren. That was based on how much Native American DNA was found and the acceptable range that it would take to dilute down to her levels.
It was all tongue in cheek... Satire doesn't go over well via text.
Ha!
Well, that one didn’t, anyway
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I'll tell you one thing for sure- if I hear of any candidate who claims be be Amish or part Amish or has any Amish blood, no way in hell will I vote for them. Fuck the Amish.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I'll tell you one thing for sure- if I hear of any candidate who claims be be Amish or part Amish or has any Amish blood, no way in hell will I vote for them. Fuck the Amish.
I'll tell you one thing for sure- if I hear of any candidate who claims be be Amish or part Amish or has any Amish blood, no way in hell will I vote for them. Fuck the Amish.
What is your stance on Mennonites?
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I'll tell you one thing for sure- if I hear of any candidate who claims be be Amish or part Amish or has any Amish blood, no way in hell will I vote for them. Fuck the Amish.
What the hell did the Amish do to you?
Oh you know, it's those creepy black carts they run around in.
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I was raised by women. Nearly everyone I look up to is a woman. If anything, I think women can do most things better than men. So maybe I am sexist, too--just not the way you might be implying.
If you're barking up my tree, you have simply picked the wrong tree. It actually couldn't be more wrong. Plenty of other squirrels to chase, though.
A known side effect is assuming anyone that disagrees with your radical leftist agenda supports him without question. Another is widespread screeching every time he sends a tweet. But seriously keep it up, keep up the riots, keep up the accusations without evidence, keep up the lunacy, you’ll just get another four years for your prize.
I'm just ageist when it comes down to something like this. I own it. I think it's pragmatic more than anything.
Oh Jared dear boy, where are you Jared? Jared? It's time for cookies and milk. Now Jared dear boy, where ave I ever said lying is ok? Go get your wife and get back to me on that. You'll find her if you follow the $ all the way to impeachment and a PTape. And dear Jared, I know you are upset, but please do not take your being upset at something else to project you anger on me....Jared dear boy that would be unfair.
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So far, I've heard Trump, Warren, Biden, even Sanders. Holy shit! will those last two even be alive in 2020?
Is Kamala considering? Booker? Hickenlooper? Klobuchar? Cuomo?
Would anyone dare primary Trump? Haley? Sasse? Walker? Flake? Baker? McMaster?
But since each parent does not donate exactly half their DNA and is more or less random, its impossible to tell from DNA exactly how far back your heritage goes. You can get a statistical range, if you are 5% Jewish it is unlikely either parent was full Jewish, and also unlikely that it went back more than 5 or 6 generations. That's why they gave a range, based on amount. I think the estimate was 6-10 generations for Warren. That was based on how much Native American DNA was found and the acceptable range that it would take to dilute down to her levels.
Want to bet if he gets the nom in 2020 that he wins re-election?
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Age also comes into play as PJSoul mentioned due to willingness for new ideas. Again, being older doesn;t mean you can;t be open to new ideas....but it certainly means if you are, you are part of a minority.
I would think the perfect age for a president in late 40's or early to mid 50's. Time for experience and knowledge, but young enough for grind and open to new idea. All that said, everyone is different so you can;t only go off of age. I'd still vote for the 75 year old that I think has better ideas over a 48 year old in perfect health.
Well, that one didn’t, anyway
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