Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    JC29856 said:
    "WE WILL PUT FORTH NO EVIDENCE HAVING TO DO WITH THE 2016 ELECTION"

    should I screen grab the court transcript or just trust $30M Maddow?

    Who thinks H2M scrambled to Google the woods procedures? Or is he such a partisan hack that he didn't even bother?
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    edited August 2018
    JC29856 said:
    "WE WILL PUT FORTH NO EVIDENCE HAVING TO DO WITH THE 2016 ELECTION"

    should I screen grab the court transcript or just trust $30M Maddow?

    Who thinks H2M scrambled to Google the woods procedures? Or is he such a partisan hack that he didn't even bother?


    JC, you are just not capable of seeing bias? You can read the 7.6.18 CNN excerpt below that OSC publicly said they would present evidence linking to Trump? BTW,it was regarding the transition, not the election

    You know it was the DEFENSE that wanted Gates to disclose election related testimony in court, the OSC OBJECTED


    ..... and the biased judge made them argue it out in front of the jury with a sound machine instead of in Chambers, as would have ordinarily been done? This made the OSC look like they were hiding election related testimony RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE JURY?

    Judicial bias in plain sight yet you don't see it? Red hats n facts, hmmmm.

    Don't forget M2Hs poster either, please ':-)
    ..

    "CNN)Prosecutors for special counsel Robert Mueller intend to present evidence at the trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort that a banking executive allegedly helped Manafort obtain loans of approximately $16 million while the banker sought a role in the Trump campaign."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/paul-manafort-trial-public/index.html
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    JC29856 said:
    "WE WILL PUT FORTH NO EVIDENCE HAVING TO DO WITH THE 2016 ELECTION"

    should I screen grab the court transcript or just trust $30M Maddow?

    Who thinks H2M scrambled to Google the woods procedures? Or is he such a partisan hack that he didn't even bother?


    JC, you are just not capable of seeing bias? You can read the 7.6.18 CNN excerpt below that OSC publicly said they would present evidence linking to Trump? BTW,it was regarding the transition, not the election

    You know it was the DEFENSE that wanted Gates to disclose election related testimony in court, the OSC OBJECTED


    ..... and the biased judge made them argue it out in front of the jury with a sound machine instead of in Chambers, as would have ordinarily been done? This made the OSC look like they were hiding election related testimony RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE JURY?

    Judicial bias in plain sight yet you don't see it? Red hats n facts, hmmmm.

    Don't forget M2Hs poster either, please ':-)
    ..

    "CNN)Prosecutors for special counsel Robert Mueller intend to present evidence at the trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort that a banking executive allegedly helped Manafort obtain loans of approximately $16 million while the banker sought a role in the Trump campaign."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/paul-manafort-trial-public/index.html
    Why does anyone bother? Dots. That’s why. Dots are fun! And they taste good too!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    JC29856 said:
    "WE WILL PUT FORTH NO EVIDENCE HAVING TO DO WITH THE 2016 ELECTION"

    should I screen grab the court transcript or just trust $30M Maddow?

    Who thinks H2M scrambled to Google the woods procedures? Or is he such a partisan hack that he didn't even bother?
    “Partisan hack.” That’s rich. That’s Marc Rich. You didn’t even know which side brought up the 2016 election before you breathlessly posted your misleading 3D post. Pass the sugar, butter, eggs and cream, along with the poster and rubles, please.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    "WE WILL PUT FORTH NO EVIDENCE HAVING TO DO WITH THE 2016 ELECTION"

    should I screen grab the court transcript or just trust $30M Maddow?

    Who thinks H2M scrambled to Google the woods procedures? Or is he such a partisan hack that he didn't even bother?


    JC, you are just not capable of seeing bias? You can read the 7.6.18 CNN excerpt below that OSC publicly said they would present evidence linking to Trump? BTW,it was regarding the transition, not the election

    You know it was the DEFENSE that wanted Gates to disclose election related testimony in court, the OSC OBJECTED


    ..... and the biased judge made them argue it out in front of the jury with a sound machine instead of in Chambers, as would have ordinarily been done? This made the OSC look like they were hiding election related testimony RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE JURY?

    Judicial bias in plain sight yet you don't see it? Red hats n facts, hmmmm.

    Don't forget M2Hs poster either, please ':-)
    ..

    "CNN)Prosecutors for special counsel Robert Mueller intend to present evidence at the trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort that a banking executive allegedly helped Manafort obtain loans of approximately $16 million while the banker sought a role in the Trump campaign."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/paul-manafort-trial-public/index.html
    I read the court transcripts, I don't need CNNs analysis.
    If you read them you would know a few more things that Gates testified to, specifically having to do with Ukraine.

    I'm any case what's this have to do with Russia Russia Russia and election "influence and meddling"?
    Manafort was no longer on the trump campaign after August so I'm not sure what you think happened?
    He tried to leverage his role in the campaign to secure a loan? That's the least of his troubles.

    I hope Manafort never sees the light of day, I wish somehow for every Manafort guilty verdict 10 more electoral votes go into Hillary's column.

    My advice, don't get caught up in this Manafort trial, the next one will be much more interesting. 

    If you're so convinced of judicial bias then the prosecution can and will easily win on appeal.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    "WE WILL PUT FORTH NO EVIDENCE HAVING TO DO WITH THE 2016 ELECTION"

    should I screen grab the court transcript or just trust $30M Maddow?

    Who thinks H2M scrambled to Google the woods procedures? Or is he such a partisan hack that he didn't even bother?


    JC, you are just not capable of seeing bias? You can read the 7.6.18 CNN excerpt below that OSC publicly said they would present evidence linking to Trump? BTW,it was regarding the transition, not the election

    You know it was the DEFENSE that wanted Gates to disclose election related testimony in court, the OSC OBJECTED


    ..... and the biased judge made them argue it out in front of the jury with a sound machine instead of in Chambers, as would have ordinarily been done? This made the OSC look like they were hiding election related testimony RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE JURY?

    Judicial bias in plain sight yet you don't see it? Red hats n facts, hmmmm.

    Don't forget M2Hs poster either, please ':-)
    ..

    "CNN)Prosecutors for special counsel Robert Mueller intend to present evidence at the trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort that a banking executive allegedly helped Manafort obtain loans of approximately $16 million while the banker sought a role in the Trump campaign."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/paul-manafort-trial-public/index.html
    I read the court transcripts, I don't need CNNs analysis.
    If you read them you would know a few more things that Gates testified to, specifically having to do with Ukraine.

    I'm any case what's this have to do with Russia Russia Russia and election "influence and meddling"?
    Manafort was no longer on the trump campaign after August so I'm not sure what you think happened?
    He tried to leverage his role in the campaign to secure a loan? That's the least of his troubles.

    I hope Manafort never sees the light of day, I wish somehow for every Manafort guilty verdict 10 more electoral votes go into Hillary's column.

    My advice, don't get caught up in this Manafort trial, the next one will be much more interesting. 

    If you're so convinced of judicial bias then the prosecution can and will easily win on appeal.
    Prosecution can’t appeal a verdict, unless it’s a hung jury, in which case they need to have a compelling reason to retry the case. Double jeopardy, yo. However, 3Xs the evidence in a different venue with a different judge looms. If it’s so unimportant to you and to Team Trump Treason, why do you keep spinning it?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    Gates’s testimony regarding the Ukraine is relevant to the known associations with Russians, Russians, Russians and how money flowed and was hidden. It’s always been all about following the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Microsoft claims new evidence Russia tried to hack U.S. politics

    The alleged hackers, Fancy Bear, were named in Robert Mueller's indictment of 12 Russian officials for alleged interference in the 2016 election.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/microsoft-claims-new-evidence-russia-tried-hack-u-s-politics-n902411
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    "Fancy Bear". LOL what are they, a group of really flamboyant rooskies? 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303

    Author of Trump-Russia dossier wins libel case in US court

    Suit against Christopher Steele by three Russian oligarchs thrown out by judge

    But the judge concluded that it was covered by the US first amendment, which protects free speech. He ruled that the oligarchs had failed to prove a key part of their case: that Steele knew that some information in the dossier was inaccurate, and had acted “with reckless disregard as to its falsity”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/21/author-of-trump-russia-dossier-wins-libel-case-in-us-court-christopher-steele
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    dignin said:

    Author of Trump-Russia dossier wins libel case in US court

    Suit against Christopher Steele by three Russian oligarchs thrown out by judge

    But the judge concluded that it was covered by the US first amendment, which protects free speech. He ruled that the oligarchs had failed to prove a key part of their case: that Steele knew that some information in the dossier was inaccurate, and had acted “with reckless disregard as to its falsity”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/21/author-of-trump-russia-dossier-wins-libel-case-in-us-court-christopher-steele
    And the hits just keep coming. So, which parts of the Steele Dossier are false? Team Mueller will figure it out.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited August 2018
    Speaking of polls and polling, how about we giddy on up with Gallop

    • 58% say it's more important to try to improve relations
    • 36% think U.S. should take strong diplomatic or economic steps
    • Those closely following story on Russia and the 2016 election prefer sanctions

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/241124/favor-diplomacy-sanctions-russia.aspx
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    JC29856 said:
    Speaking of polls and polling, how about we giddy on up with Gallop

    • 58% say it's more important to try to improve relations
    • 36% think U.S. should take strong diplomatic or economic steps
    • Those closely following story on Russia and the 2016 election prefer sanctions

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/241124/favor-diplomacy-sanctions-russia.aspx
    Why isn’t there a percentage attached to “those following?” And why isn’t there a Missoula poster on its way to M2H?
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    "WE WILL PUT FORTH NO EVIDENCE HAVING TO DO WITH THE 2016 ELECTION"

    should I screen grab the court transcript or just trust $30M Maddow?

    Who thinks H2M scrambled to Google the woods procedures? Or is he such a partisan hack that he didn't even bother?


    JC, you are just not capable of seeing bias? You can read the 7.6.18 CNN excerpt below that OSC publicly said they would present evidence linking to Trump? BTW,it was regarding the transition, not the election

    You know it was the DEFENSE that wanted Gates to disclose election related testimony in court, the OSC OBJECTED


    ..... and the biased judge made them argue it out in front of the jury with a sound machine instead of in Chambers, as would have ordinarily been done? This made the OSC look like they were hiding election related testimony RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE JURY?

    Judicial bias in plain sight yet you don't see it? Red hats n facts, hmmmm.

    Don't forget M2Hs poster either, please ':-)
    ..

    "CNN)Prosecutors for special counsel Robert Mueller intend to present evidence at the trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort that a banking executive allegedly helped Manafort obtain loans of approximately $16 million while the banker sought a role in the Trump campaign."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/paul-manafort-trial-public/index.html
    I read the court transcripts, I don't need CNNs analysis.
    If you read them you would know a few more things that Gates testified to, specifically having to do with Ukraine.

    I'm any case what's this have to do with Russia Russia Russia and election "influence and meddling"?
    Manafort was no longer on the trump campaign after August so I'm not sure what you think happened?
    He tried to leverage his role in the campaign to secure a loan? That's the least of his troubles.

    I hope Manafort never sees the light of day, I wish somehow for every Manafort guilty verdict 10 more electoral votes go into Hillary's column.

    My advice, don't get caught up in this Manafort trial, the next one will be much more interesting. 

    If you're so convinced of judicial bias then the prosecution can and will easily win on appeal.

    Thanks Hal for answering the double jeopardy...

    You may be right that this has nothing to do with  Russian election interference but it  don't sure dont look that way. Dont forget Gates was involved with Trump through the inauguration. Anything potentially questionable Manafort set up could have been managed by Gates after Manafort was let go.

    And there is something possibly significant they have placed under seal.

    The defense sure wanted to know what Gates said to the OSC, and the judge did everything he could to make the prosecution look dishonest while deciding whether to allow this testimony.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    Cohen implicated the Baffoon on campaign finance violations how many pardons can the Baffoon issue in one term ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    Cohens lawyer on Maddow right now calling the Baffoon a total liar lol 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,600
    Cohens lawyer on Maddow right now calling the Baffoon a total liar lol 
    It's fascinating that both Cohen and trump have PR lawyers on TV all day,  not litigators.  They both seem to believe they need to win the court of public opinion. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,139
     Cohen appears multiple times in the supposedly fake dossier. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
     Cohen appears multiple times in the supposedly fake dossier. 
    You do mean the sweet fruit from the poisonous tree, do you not? Brilliant brilliance of brilliancy in disappearing headlines. It’ll all blow over in a day or two, into the dust bin of history.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
     Cohen appears multiple times in the supposedly fake dossier. 
    You do mean the sweet fruit from the poisonous tree, do you not? Brilliant brilliance of brilliancy in disappearing headlines. It’ll all blow over in a day or two, into the dust bin of history.
    Thanks for being right about the Manafort decision.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
     Cohen appears multiple times in the supposedly fake dossier. 
    You do mean the sweet fruit from the poisonous tree, do you not? Brilliant brilliance of brilliancy in disappearing headlines. It’ll all blow over in a day or two, into the dust bin of history.
    Thanks for being right about the Manafort decision.
    Thank Team Mueller and the jury. I just went with my gut.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    Cohens lawyer on Maddow right now calling the Baffoon a total liar lol 


    This was da bomb  on Maddow last nite...

    "Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel, and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows," 

    Don't go on me. Lanny.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    Cohens lawyer on Maddow right now calling the Baffoon a total liar lol 


    This was da bomb  on Maddow last nite...

    "Mr. Cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel, and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows," 

    Don't go on me. Lanny.
    I saw Lanny and Avanatti last night and Dershowitz. The former came across as calm and confident while the latter was shrill and more interested in discussing legal theory. Team Trump Treason’s charade is going to crash down around him. The best part was hearing how White House staffers are shocked and demoralized. Do they know who the fuck they’re working for? Suckers.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,600
     Cohen appears multiple times in the supposedly fake dossier. 
    You do mean the sweet fruit from the poisonous tree, do you not? Brilliant brilliance of brilliancy in disappearing headlines. It’ll all blow over in a day or two, into the dust bin of history.
    Thanks for being right about the Manafort decision.
    I was getting a bit concerned when the jury was taking so long to deliberate.  Now we know it was hanging on certain charges.  My guess is they don't refile.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    mrussel1 said:
     Cohen appears multiple times in the supposedly fake dossier. 
    You do mean the sweet fruit from the poisonous tree, do you not? Brilliant brilliance of brilliancy in disappearing headlines. It’ll all blow over in a day or two, into the dust bin of history.
    Thanks for being right about the Manafort decision.
    I was getting a bit concerned when the jury was taking so long to deliberate.  Now we know it was hanging on certain charges.  My guess is they don't refile.  
    They really don’t need to on the remaining 10 as they have the September trial to look forward to. I thought it was telling that Manafort’s attorney didn’t state that they immediately be filing an appeal but rather, “we're considering our options.” Who here will be surprised when Team Trump Treason pardons Manafort?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    mrussel1 said:
     Cohen appears multiple times in the supposedly fake dossier. 
    You do mean the sweet fruit from the poisonous tree, do you not? Brilliant brilliance of brilliancy in disappearing headlines. It’ll all blow over in a day or two, into the dust bin of history.
    Thanks for being right about the Manafort decision.
    I was getting a bit concerned when the jury was taking so long to deliberate.  Now we know it was hanging on certain charges.  My guess is they don't refile.  
    They really don’t need to on the remaining 10 as they have the September trial to look forward to. I thought it was telling that Manafort’s attorney didn’t state that they immediately be filing an appeal but rather, “we're considering our options.” Who here will be surprised when Team Trump Treason pardons Manafort?
    I will be surprised... I don't see how Trump could survive the backlash to that... If he is clinging on to any hope of winning in 2020, which he seems to be, I can't see how pardoning Manafort would be something he'd actually go through with, even if he starts babbling about how he can on Twitter. But hey, it's fucking Trump. You never know! I would definitely never bet any money against Trump doing something insane and stupid.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/us/politics/bruce-ohr-trump-justice-department.html

    Laughable, did they mention in the article how many times Bruce was interviewed by the FBI? How many times he met with Steele?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,476
    JC29856 said:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/us/politics/bruce-ohr-trump-justice-department.html

    Laughable, did they mention in the article how many times Bruce was interviewed by the FBI? How many times he met with Steele?
    Bruce Ohr has a long history of prosecuting Russian mobsters. Gee, wonder why he’s under scrutiny. Oh well, Team Mueller and states’ AGs will sort it out. Seven ways to Sunday.

    Follow the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment. Oh, and charitable foundations and slush funds, oh my!
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    Michael Cohen

    Alexander Pereepilichny

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