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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    I just watched the full Helsinki press conference 

    People are still supporting this clown? Lol good God 
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,120
    Well Trump lost one of his titles....since he's now Putin's lap dog. He's no longer, *The Most Powerful Man In The World*.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited July 2018
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/president-trump-putin-visit-washington-white-house/index.html

    So nobody in our government knows what was talked about for 2 hours in private? Can we please remove this fucking traitor from office?
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    my2hands said:
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/politics/president-trump-putin-visit-washington-white-house/index.html

    So nobody in our government knows what was talked about for 2 hours in private? Can we please remove this fucking traitor from office?
    No one even knows what was talked about when he decided to host the Russians at the WH earlier this year..
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    Breaking precedent? Sure.
    You know what's also unprecedented? An American president acting like he's being blackmailed by Putin, who is still waging war on our democracy, agreeing to a one on one meeting with Putin with no one else in the room other than the interpreter. Putin has met with the previous 3 presidents, each of whom had incredibly more experience than Trump does and none of them agreed to a one on one meeting. Something's not right here. Desperate times call for desperate measures.....perhaps if the Dems take back the house, they might be able to talk to her.

    Yah.

    The 'exclusive one on one' meeting is way over the top and if you think about it longer than a few seconds... he structured it this way because he knew things being discussed were things he didn't want anyone else to hear about.

    He's obviously harbouring big items and his level of compromised is not ideal for his position to say the very least.

    Just think of the absurdity of it: newbie politician who's failing miserably in the world eye arranges private meeting with ruthless global king. Advisors had to be advising against it- they can't all be stupid? He insisted.

    It's really stinky.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,588
    edited July 2018
    unsung said:
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


    Did the cia report there were wmds at the time? My memory was they were open about the questionable source ( Chilabi?) and the yellow cake uranium crap was cooked up by the White House. Head of cia George Tenet was po’d that the office was being politicized at the time.  
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,482
    unsung said:
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


    Not if you never believed it in the first place and saw the full court press the bush administration put on to dupe the American public. I fathom a great many of them voted for Team Trump Treason as well.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,490
    my2hands said:
    Now this fucking murderer is being invited to our soil? 

    How many political opponents, dissidents, and journalists has this creep killed to maintain his stranglehold on power? 

    If Obama did this you rightwing folks in here still supporting this POS would be screaming treason and ready to pull out your AR, but now look at you, nothing but complicit lap dogs. Nothing but frauds and fake patriots


    I have zero problems with Obama or Trump meeting with Putin or any other despot.  It is what is discussed at these meetings and the actions that follow that I care about.  

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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,769
    Let justice prevail. If there is any criminal activity, let the sun shine on it and our legal system do what it's meant to do. That's no matter the person, no matter what organization, red or blue or green. Get the criminals out of our government. Then maybe criminals won't be invited to our White House. Just a few thoughts after I stopped laughing when I saw the headline. Have a great weekend all. :)
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    With the exception of endorsing child molester Roy Moore, this summit with Putin was the most pathetic moment of the Trump presidency (so far). Throwing your own intelligence agencies under the bus to side with the president of Russia? Maybe Trump didn't want to acknowledge Russian meddling because it would call into question the legitimacy of his election win. From Trump's perspective, I can understand that. But I think it really shows that the Russian government has something on Trump. Not a pee-pee tape or whatever, but some over-the-top shady business dealings. Cause otherwise, why would Trump act so cowardly towards Putin? One thing Trump's shown over the past two years is a willingness to disrespect anyone and everyone. So why back down to this guy? Unless it's in Trump's best interest to do so. 

    Besides all the obvious stuff that makes Trump terrible, there's something to be said about any American (let alone the President) that respects and gets along with the Russian President and North Korean Dictator, but can't get along with the German Chancellor or British and Canadian Prime Ministers. Hell he even found a way to disrespect Queen Elizabeth. What a sociopath. 
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited July 2018
    Charlottesville was my Trumpito low point, but that was eclipsed by #NATOOTAN and then the disaster of #TRUMPUTIN .
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  • Tiki said:
    Charlottesville was my Trumpito low point, but that was eclipsed by #NATOOTAN and then the disaster of #TRUMPUTIN .

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,482
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    unsung said:
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


    More tough talk, I'm not impressed. You talk a good game, until a foreign power owns the White House

    I have a healthy distrust for the USA defense & intelligence apparatus, but I definitely trust them a lot more than this POS.

    So you're saying they didnt hack state election systems and a major political party? 

    Fake patriot
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    With the exception of endorsing child molester Roy Moore, this summit with Putin was the most pathetic moment of the Trump presidency (so far). Throwing your own intelligence agencies under the bus to side with the president of Russia? Maybe Trump didn't want to acknowledge Russian meddling because it would call into question the legitimacy of his election win. From Trump's perspective, I can understand that. But I think it really shows that the Russian government has something on Trump. Not a pee-pee tape or whatever, but some over-the-top shady business dealings. Cause otherwise, why would Trump act so cowardly towards Putin? One thing Trump's shown over the past two years is a willingness to disrespect anyone and everyone. So why back down to this guy? Unless it's in Trump's best interest to do so. 

    Besides all the obvious stuff that makes Trump terrible, there's something to be said about any American (let alone the President) that respects and gets along with the Russian President and North Korean Dictator, but can't get along with the German Chancellor or British and Canadian Prime Ministers. Hell he even found a way to disrespect Queen Elizabeth. What a sociopath. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    With the exception of endorsing child molester Roy Moore, this summit with Putin was the most pathetic moment of the Trump presidency (so far). Throwing your own intelligence agencies under the bus to side with the president of Russia? Maybe Trump didn't want to acknowledge Russian meddling because it would call into question the legitimacy of his election win. From Trump's perspective, I can understand that. But I think it really shows that the Russian government has something on Trump. Not a pee-pee tape or whatever, but some over-the-top shady business dealings. Cause otherwise, why would Trump act so cowardly towards Putin? One thing Trump's shown over the past two years is a willingness to disrespect anyone and everyone. So why back down to this guy? Unless it's in Trump's best interest to do so. 

    Besides all the obvious stuff that makes Trump terrible, there's something to be said about any American (let alone the President) that respects and gets along with the Russian President and North Korean Dictator, but can't get along with the German Chancellor or British and Canadian Prime Ministers. Hell he even found a way to disrespect Queen Elizabeth. What a sociopath. 
    You know he even called Un "Little Rocket man"....but nothing on Putin.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    unsung said:
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


    "I'm liking this Guccifer guy."
    Traitor. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141

    my2hands said:
    unsung said:
    You wouldn't know what a Patriot is.

    I guess wmd in iraq due to our intellegence agencies is now forgiven.  They can do no wrong.


    More tough talk, I'm not impressed. You talk a good game, until a foreign power owns the White House

    I have a healthy distrust for the USA defense & intelligence apparatus, but I definitely trust them a lot more than this POS.

    So you're saying they didnt hack state election systems and a major political party? 

    Fake patriot
    See, I think you're giving Rambo too much credit here. It seems as if he doesn't mind a foreign power owning the White House. 
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  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,892
    I'm reading a book called "Prisoners of Geography" and the first chapter details the geography of Russia.  It is a great discussion of how the geography of Russia informs every decision that country makes both now and in the past, for defense and trade purposes.  Why did Putin annex Crimea?  To regain a warm water port (defense and trade). Why hasn't Ukraine been admitted to  NATO?  Because we fear war with Russia (rightly so).  Why does Putin support Assad in Syria (in part)? To have a naval presence in the Mediterranean.  All this being said, while I think Trumps' advisors understand a lot of Putin's motivations, I don't think Trump has ANY understanding and, even worse, he refuses to be briefed and to educate himself on any of this.  He thinks he can strong arm people and win.  This is not the way geopolitics work.  This is why Trump should never be allowed to meet alone with any leader.  I can't support any president that doesn't even TRY to learn.  I detested GW Bush but he at least had an understanding of issues.  Trump supporters need to quit worrying about Hillary and start worrying about the coming storm.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    riotgrl said:
    I'm reading a book called "Prisoners of Geography" and the first chapter details the geography of Russia.  It is a great discussion of how the geography of Russia informs every decision that country makes both now and in the past, for defense and trade purposes.  Why did Putin annex Crimea?  To regain a warm water port (defense and trade). Why hasn't Ukraine been admitted to  NATO?  Because we fear war with Russia (rightly so).  Why does Putin support Assad in Syria (in part)? To have a naval presence in the Mediterranean.  All this being said, while I think Trumps' advisors understand a lot of Putin's motivations, I don't think Trump has ANY understanding and, even worse, he refuses to be briefed and to educate himself on any of this.  He thinks he can strong arm people and win.  This is not the way geopolitics work.  This is why Trump should never be allowed to meet alone with any leader.  I can't support any president that doesn't even TRY to learn.  I detested GW Bush but he at least had an understanding of issues.  Trump supporters need to quit worrying about Hillary and start worrying about the coming storm.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    With the exception of endorsing child molester Roy Moore, this summit with Putin was the most pathetic moment of the Trump presidency (so far). Throwing your own intelligence agencies under the bus to side with the president of Russia? Maybe Trump didn't want to acknowledge Russian meddling because it would call into question the legitimacy of his election win. From Trump's perspective, I can understand that. But I think it really shows that the Russian government has something on Trump. Not a pee-pee tape or whatever, but some over-the-top shady business dealings. Cause otherwise, why would Trump act so cowardly towards Putin? One thing Trump's shown over the past two years is a willingness to disrespect anyone and everyone. So why back down to this guy? Unless it's in Trump's best interest to do so. 

    Besides all the obvious stuff that makes Trump terrible, there's something to be said about any American (let alone the President) that respects and gets along with the Russian President and North Korean Dictator, but can't get along with the German Chancellor or British and Canadian Prime Ministers. Hell he even found a way to disrespect Queen Elizabeth. What a sociopath. 
    You know he even called Un "Little Rocket man"....but nothing on Putin.
    And I like how the queen found a way to quietly disrespect him, by wearing jewellery that Obama gave her when she met with Trump. 
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  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,892
    Tiki said:
    riotgrl said:
    I'm reading a book called "Prisoners of Geography" and the first chapter details the geography of Russia.  It is a great discussion of how the geography of Russia informs every decision that country makes both now and in the past, for defense and trade purposes.  Why did Putin annex Crimea?  To regain a warm water port (defense and trade). Why hasn't Ukraine been admitted to  NATO?  Because we fear war with Russia (rightly so).  Why does Putin support Assad in Syria (in part)? To have a naval presence in the Mediterranean.  All this being said, while I think Trumps' advisors understand a lot of Putin's motivations, I don't think Trump has ANY understanding and, even worse, he refuses to be briefed and to educate himself on any of this.  He thinks he can strong arm people and win.  This is not the way geopolitics work.  This is why Trump should never be allowed to meet alone with any leader.  I can't support any president that doesn't even TRY to learn.  I detested GW Bush but he at least had an understanding of issues.  Trump supporters need to quit worrying about Hillary and start worrying about the coming storm.
    He had adult supervision.
    That he listened to at least some of the time.  Trump listens to no one and nothing will sway him because he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room which he is not.  I may not like or agree with some of the people Trump surrounds himself with but at least some of them are telling him that the things he does are not good for the country.  And he doesn't care...
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    edited July 2018
    Hey! Here's some good news that should surprise no one...Happy Friday!


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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    What a PATRIOT.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    Tiki said:
    Hey! Here's some good news that should surprise no one...Happy Friday!


    Why is it “breaking news” that he’s going golfing? Seems more like business as usual. 
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