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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    edited July 2018
    Let's not forget one thing.  Trump won and Hillary lost.  Mic drop.
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    Edved82Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,251
    PJ_Soul said:
    Edved82 said:
    Surely what he said today amounts to treason? 
    Just saying something like that isn't actually treason, is it?? I think you have to do more than that to commit that crime. I'm not saying he's not a traitor, just that him making a comment about America like that doesn't amount to it legally as far as I know. He can trash talk America and praise Russia all he wants without committing a crime, no?
    treason
    ˈtriːz(ə)n/
    noun
    the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

    I dont know of the legalities of it, but I'm not sure how any right-minded American, Republican or Democrat, could stand behind what Trump did today. There should be an immediate bi-partisan backlash in Congress. He should be impeached.
    "...though my problems are meaningless....that don't make them go away...."
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,597
    edited July 2018
    vaggar99 said:
    Let's not forget one thing.  Trump won and Hillary lost.  Mic drop.
    With an assist from putin on the ritz. Not fair and square but then again, when has Team Trump Treason ever been fair and square?
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    Edved82Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,251
    Even Fox News are turning on Trump, or at least Shepard Smith is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rJ9LCHxi8o
    "...though my problems are meaningless....that don't make them go away...."
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,542
    Remember  when Russia was the enemy and commies were bad guys?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,597
    vaggar99 said:
    Me thinks there’s going to be a subpoena with Wayn’s name on it soon enough. Bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger.
     
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,542
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,533
    Edved82 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Edved82 said:
    Surely what he said today amounts to treason? 
    Just saying something like that isn't actually treason, is it?? I think you have to do more than that to commit that crime. I'm not saying he's not a traitor, just that him making a comment about America like that doesn't amount to it legally as far as I know. He can trash talk America and praise Russia all he wants without committing a crime, no?
    treason
    ˈtriːz(ə)n/
    noun
    the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

    I dont know of the legalities of it, but I'm not sure how any right-minded American, Republican or Democrat, could stand behind what Trump did today. There should be an immediate bi-partisan backlash in Congress. He should be impeached.
      Yes, of course. I think anyone who supports Trump now, or at any point in the past, is a complete asshole and stupid as hell. But so far he has not committed an act of treason........ that we know of, factually. Of course that doesn't mean he hasn't committed treason at some point. I was just responding to the comments about his words today amounting to an act of treason. They did not...... I actually really really wish they did, lol. Maybe then he'd actually get impeached.
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    Edved82Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,251
    PJ_Soul said:
    Edved82 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Edved82 said:
    Surely what he said today amounts to treason? 
    Just saying something like that isn't actually treason, is it?? I think you have to do more than that to commit that crime. I'm not saying he's not a traitor, just that him making a comment about America like that doesn't amount to it legally as far as I know. He can trash talk America and praise Russia all he wants without committing a crime, no?
    treason
    ˈtriːz(ə)n/
    noun
    the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

    I dont know of the legalities of it, but I'm not sure how any right-minded American, Republican or Democrat, could stand behind what Trump did today. There should be an immediate bi-partisan backlash in Congress. He should be impeached.
      Yes, of course. I think anyone who supports Trump now, or at any point in the past, is a complete asshole and stupid as hell. But so far he has not committed an act of treason........ that we know of, factually. Of course that doesn't mean he hasn't committed treason at some point. I was just responding to the comments about his words today amounting to an act of treason. They did not...... I actually really really wish they did, lol. Maybe then he'd actually get impeached.
    I'm not American but have been following this closely. I'm really interested to see what Mueller comes up with next, after the indictment of the Russians. I'm guessing that he'll move against their likely US contacts next, and if any of them are connected to Trump's campaign, he'll be in serious trouble, especially after the shit show of today. He's building a good case against himself, and why he keeps going on about this "witch hunt", I can only guess that he has something serious to hide. Watch this space! :)
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    g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,122
    Hillary said it first, *Russian Putin Puppet*

    https://youtu.be/LP-uhX0hCpY

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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,261
    vaggar99 said:

    I wonder which Russian troll farm these "people" are from.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:
    I'd like to hear spinmeister @BS44325 take on his bowing and scraping today.
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    vaggar99 said:
    The brains of pliable easily manipulated republicans is why there may be no hope even after volumes of evidence.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Edved82 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Edved82 said:
    Surely what he said today amounts to treason? 
    Just saying something like that isn't actually treason, is it?? I think you have to do more than that to commit that crime. I'm not saying he's not a traitor, just that him making a comment about America like that doesn't amount to it legally as far as I know. He can trash talk America and praise Russia all he wants without committing a crime, no?
    treason
    ˈtriːz(ə)n/
    noun
    the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

    I dont know of the legalities of it, but I'm not sure how any right-minded American, Republican or Democrat, could stand behind what Trump did today. There should be an immediate bi-partisan backlash in Congress. He should be impeached.
    I don’t like anything he said today but this is stupid. Stick with rational criticism. Don’t overplay your hand.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:
    Edved82 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Edved82 said:
    Surely what he said today amounts to treason? 
    Just saying something like that isn't actually treason, is it?? I think you have to do more than that to commit that crime. I'm not saying he's not a traitor, just that him making a comment about America like that doesn't amount to it legally as far as I know. He can trash talk America and praise Russia all he wants without committing a crime, no?
    treason
    ˈtriːz(ə)n/
    noun
    the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill or overthrow the sovereign or government.

    I dont know of the legalities of it, but I'm not sure how any right-minded American, Republican or Democrat, could stand behind what Trump did today. There should be an immediate bi-partisan backlash in Congress. He should be impeached.
      Yes, of course. I think anyone who supports Trump now, or at any point in the past, is a complete asshole and stupid as hell. But so far he has not committed an act of treason........ that we know of, factually. Of course that doesn't mean he hasn't committed treason at some point. I was just responding to the comments about his words today amounting to an act of treason. They did not...... I actually really really wish they did, lol. Maybe then he'd actually get impeached.
    Totally agree with you on “treason” but not on support. I am not stupid as hell or a complete asshole. The alternative choice matters. The alternative choice is not better.
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    SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,520
    vaggar99 said:
    Putin owns Trump.  Trump is the least alpha male on the planet.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Smellyman said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Putin owns Trump.  Trump is the least alpha male on the planet.
    The results will determine whether you are correct...
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    Smellyman said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Putin owns Trump.  Trump is the least alpha male on the planet.
    Unbelievable.  Trump never misses an opportunity to insult someone.  Never insulted Putin. 
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    His presidency is a circus and he is the clown-in-chief. 
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    vaggar99 said:
    Smellyman said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Putin owns Trump.  Trump is the least alpha male on the planet.
    Unbelievable.  Trump never misses an opportunity to insult someone.  Never insulted Putin. 
    It’s smart not to insult Putin at this stage.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,711
    A fine lyric of advice for our Trump supporters.

    "Mutiny in Jonestown"by Minutemen

    Pavarotti, take one

    Cast off!
    Me in these ropes?
    I'm one knot
    Tangled in the heap

    I know it's paradox
    With my dreams
    I know it's paradox
    With my dreams

    Ship's creaking
    Taking on bullshit
    I fucking scream:
    Jump ship!
    Jump ship!

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    brianlux said:
    A fine lyric of advice for our Trump supporters.

    "Mutiny in Jonestown"by Minutemen

    Pavarotti, take one

    Cast off!
    Me in these ropes?
    I'm one knot
    Tangled in the heap

    I know it's paradox
    With my dreams
    I know it's paradox
    With my dreams

    Ship's creaking
    Taking on bullshit
    I fucking scream:
    Jump ship!
    Jump ship!

    Jump ship to what? The Democratic Socialists? I thought we are trying to get away from Russia?
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    vaggar99 said:
    Hahahhahahahaha

    The best part is the sigh at the end.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,426
    BS44325 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Smellyman said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Putin owns Trump.  Trump is the least alpha male on the planet.
    Unbelievable.  Trump never misses an opportunity to insult someone.  Never insulted Putin. 
    It’s smart not to insult Putin at this stage.
    yeah, i've never had to chose between life in prison and death by poisoning.  hard to empathize.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,711
    BS44325 said:
    brianlux said:
    A fine lyric of advice for our Trump supporters.

    "Mutiny in Jonestown"by Minutemen

    Pavarotti, take one

    Cast off!
    Me in these ropes?
    I'm one knot
    Tangled in the heap

    I know it's paradox
    With my dreams
    I know it's paradox
    With my dreams

    Ship's creaking
    Taking on bullshit
    I fucking scream:
    Jump ship!
    Jump ship!

    Jump ship to what? The Democratic Socialists? I thought we are trying to get away from Russia?
    You are comparing Democratic Socialism to Russia?
    :rofl:

    Jump ship, baby, jump ship!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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