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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    State Run Media vs. State Run Media...
    (Some seriously scarey  shit)

  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    edited June 2018
    mace1229 said:

    Much of the accusations towards fox are true, but they equally apply to most of the other news networks too, but I don’t see multiple threads complaining about then.
    All "news" stations are the same!


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    charles krauthammer ... probably one of the most pragmatic person I’ve observed.  And I respect that. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,121
    Echo chamber... no one gives a poop until this last week.  Interesting psychology. More human than human. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    hippiemom = goodness
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,936
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,425
    this is how an ignorant person "wins" an argument
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    Hey @Ledbetterman10 , this relates to what I said in the other thread. Some food for thought. :)
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,956
    edited July 2018
    Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    edited July 2018
    mace1229 said:
    Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.
    “Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of. 
     
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,956
    mace1229 said:
    Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.
    “Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of. 
     
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
    I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.
    “Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of. 
     
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
    I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.
    No, if you look at the origin, it implies that being dirty is bad. 

    As for the cotton picking remark, I agree it wasn’t likely a deliberately racist remark but it was sure a startlingly stupid remark to make when speaking to an African American.  You have to be at least somewhat mindful of history. 
     
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,956
    mace1229 said:
    Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.
    “Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of. 
     
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
    I just googled the origin of the saying before reading your link and actually read the same one. It seems you’re right, the origin doesn’t have any racial meaning. But I found it funny it points out people often avoid that phrase for thinking it does. So at least I wasn’t the only one who has been told that.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    I get this thread confused with the "Idiots" thread.....

  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,517
    He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview.  He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.


  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    Smellyman said:
    He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview.  He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.



    Exactly. This was for his hundredth day in office. Then he did the Lester Holt interview a few weeks later where he basically admitted to obstructing justice and then I don't believe he has done any other non friendly interviews (unless I'm forgetting a GMA one with Stephanopoulus?). Plus he has not given a proper press conference since his second month in office.

    They try to make it seem like he is really accessible by having the pool shout questions to him when he's walking to Marine One or something but the reality is he is scared to death of actual journalists.

    Someone should ask Sarah Sanders, on a daily basis, what the president is so scare of.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,479
    Smellyman said:
    He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview.  He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.



    Exactly. This was for his hundredth day in office. Then he did the Lester Holt interview a few weeks later where he basically admitted to obstructing justice and then I don't believe he has done any other non friendly interviews (unless I'm forgetting a GMA one with Stephanopoulus?). Plus he has not given a proper press conference since his second month in office.

    They try to make it seem like he is really accessible by having the pool shout questions to him when he's walking to Marine One or something but the reality is he is scared to death of actual journalists.

    Someone should ask Sarah Sanders, on a daily basis, what the president is so scare of.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Smellyman said:
    He wouldn't last 1 minute in a real interview.  He'd throw a temper tantrum and walk out.



    Exactly. This was for his hundredth day in office. Then he did the Lester Holt interview a few weeks later where he basically admitted to obstructing justice and then I don't believe he has done any other non friendly interviews (unless I'm forgetting a GMA one with Stephanopoulus?). Plus he has not given a proper press conference since his second month in office.

    They try to make it seem like he is really accessible by having the pool shout questions to him when he's walking to Marine One or something but the reality is he is scared to death of actual journalists.

    Someone should ask Sarah Sanders, on a daily basis, what the president is so scare of.

    the media in the daily briefings need to band together and start taking this admin to task. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.
    “Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of. 
     
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
    I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.
    No, if you look at the origin, it implies that being dirty is bad. 

    As for the cotton picking remark, I agree it wasn’t likely a deliberately racist remark but it was sure a startlingly stupid remark to make when speaking to an African American.  You have to be at least somewhat mindful of history. 
     
    I agree. this is seemingly another one of those "the left gets outraged by everything" that tends to make everyone take us less seriously. it was a stupid mistake, but not necessarily racially motivated. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited July 2018
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.
    “Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of. 
     
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
    I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.
    Anyone using the phrase "out of your cotton picking mind" without recognizing its racist roots needs to be way more self aware. That term is so blatantly racist. How common it is is irrelevant. That just means that a LOT of people are comfortable using a blatantly racist term, or are at least way too oblivious about the words coming out of their mouths (as was already pointed out, the pot calling the kettle black has no racist overtone whatsoever).
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    Being a Trump supporter means having to find excuses for racist nonsense on a daily basis...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,479
    Being a Trump supporter means having to find excuses for racist nonsense on a daily basis...
    The lengths to which they go to defend the obviously wrong. Sad really.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,956
    edited July 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Poor choice of words for sure. But I don’t think it was racially motivated, at least I have no reason the assume it was. that’s a common phrase that has lost its racial roots long ago. Sort of like “the pot calling the kettle black.” People say it all the time not even realizing the meaning has racial roots. I’ve heard both said many, many times and rarely ever towards anyone black.
    “Pot calling the kettle black” does not have racist roots that I am aware of. 
     
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/22/the_pot_calling_the_kettle_black_is_the_idiom_offensive_racist_or_fair_game.html?via=gdpr-consent
    I was always told it did, it implies that being black is bad. But I’ve never looked it up myself. But that doesn’t change my point, cotton oickin mind is a common phrase, and my guess is more likely a lack of judgement that an intentional racial remark.
    Anyone using the phrase "out of your cotton picking mind" without recognizing its racist roots needs to be way more self aware. That term is so blatantly racist. How common it is is irrelevant. That just means that a LOT of people are comfortable using a blatantly racist term, or are at least way too oblivious about the words coming out of their mouths (as was already pointed out, the pot calling the kettle black has no racist overtone whatsoever).
    I get what your saying, but I think it’s completey understandable how and why people don’t think or realize it’s racist. And how common it is plays a big factor. If such phrases are common it’s easy to never even consider the origin. There are hundreds of every day sayings that I’ve never given 2 seconds as to where they came from. Yes, if I stop for a second to think about “cotton pickin” it’s easy to see the racial origins, but there’s so many of these little sayings it is understandable and easy to believe someone doesn’t take the 2 seconds to think about it.
    I was talking to a friend about this earlier today, racist things we say that many don’t know are racist. “ getting gypped” (many spell it jipped because they don’t know it’s about Gypsies), “no can do,” “long time no see” “sold down the river” are all sayings I grew up hearing and didn’t realize they were racist until someone told me they were. My friend also told me where she grew up they called peep holes “Jewholes” and never knew it had anything to do with Jews because she always thought of it as “Joo-hole” until as an adult someone pointed it out to her. How many sayings do you have that you have no idea of the origin? I imagine just like everyone else there’s a lot.
    So I can’t come down on someone too hard for not knowing one if they unintentionally use one.
    i also imagine most here have used one of those examples I just gave not knowing their racial origins.
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