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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    "Space Force"...LMFAO...
    I don't find this whole "space force" thing funny at all, because the American government is looking to "rule" in space, and that is a scary idea, not an outrageous one. It's a fantastical idea like Star Wars here - there are very real considerations related to weapons in orbit, as well as telecommunication satellites. Nations "fighting" over space is a realistic possibility, and I think the world needs to get a lot more hard core about preventing this kind of militaristic, "us vs them" thinking when it comes to space exploration and technology NOW. Space exploration and space technology has to proceed in a cooperative, shared, global way, not in a space race kind of way. I'm not surprised in the least that Trump and friends are aiming at trying to build some kind of power in this context - I hope they and any other nation who is aiming to do the same are stopped in their tracks somehow.
    I understand what you are saying.  Me LMFAO is the picture of the space force that trump has in his head ... he compared the space force to the Air Force.  I wouldn't be surprised if his vision of the space force is a fleet of single pilot aircraft patrolling.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,482
    edited June 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    "Space Force"...LMFAO...
    I don't find this whole "space force" thing funny at all, because the American government is looking to "rule" in space, and that is a scary idea, not an outrageous one. It's a fantastical idea like Star Wars here - there are very real considerations related to weapons in orbit, as well as telecommunication satellites. Nations "fighting" over space is a realistic possibility, and I think the world needs to get a lot more hard core about preventing this kind of militaristic, "us vs them" thinking when it comes to space exploration and technology NOW. Space exploration and space technology has to proceed in a cooperative, shared, global way, not in a space race kind of way. I'm not surprised in the least that Trump and friends are aiming at trying to build some kind of power in this context - I hope they and any other nation who is aiming to do the same are stopped in their tracks somehow.
    I understand what you are saying.  Me LMFAO is the picture of the space force that trump has in his head ... he compared the space force to the Air Force.  I wouldn't be surprised if his vision of the space force is a fleet of single pilot aircraft patrolling.
    You know the joint chiefs of staff wish Team Trump Treason would accept their invitation to Iraq or Afghanistan so they could fragg him. Not that I’m advocating that but I bet they detest him, after all, he’s smarter than all of them.
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    "Space Force"...LMFAO...
    I don't find this whole "space force" thing funny at all, because the American government is looking to "rule" in space, and that is a scary idea, not an outrageous one. It's a fantastical idea like Star Wars here - there are very real considerations related to weapons in orbit, as well as telecommunication satellites. Nations "fighting" over space is a realistic possibility, and I think the world needs to get a lot more hard core about preventing this kind of militaristic, "us vs them" thinking when it comes to space exploration and technology NOW. Space exploration and space technology has to proceed in a cooperative, shared, global way, not in a space race kind of way. I'm not surprised in the least that Trump and friends are aiming at trying to build some kind of power in this context - I hope they and any other nation who is aiming to do the same are stopped in their tracks somehow.
    I understand what you are saying.  Me LMFAO is the picture of the space force that trump has in his head ... he compared the space force to the Air Force.  I wouldn't be surprised if his vision of the space force is a fleet of single pilot aircraft patrolling.
    Same here.

    I picture him envisioning the space force like a child might. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,474
    PJ_Soul said:
    "Space Force"...LMFAO...
    I don't find this whole "space force" thing funny at all, because the American government is looking to "rule" in space, and that is a scary idea, not an outrageous one. It's a fantastical idea like Star Wars here - there are very real considerations related to weapons in orbit, as well as telecommunication satellites. Nations "fighting" over space is a realistic possibility, and I think the world needs to get a lot more hard core about preventing this kind of militaristic, "us vs them" thinking when it comes to space exploration and technology NOW. Space exploration and space technology has to proceed in a cooperative, shared, global way, not in a space race kind of way. I'm not surprised in the least that Trump and friends are aiming at trying to build some kind of power in this context - I hope they and any other nation who is aiming to do the same are stopped in their tracks somehow.
    I understand what you are saying.  Me LMFAO is the picture of the space force that trump has in his head ... he compared the space force to the Air Force.  I wouldn't be surprised if his vision of the space force is a fleet of single pilot aircraft patrolling.
    Fair enough, I'm sure you're right.... It really makes me angry thinking about how he thinks America should have some kind of ultimate role of power in space. Also, he said at his latest rally that he's "reopening NASA". That fucking idiot. :angry:
    That said... It also sounds like he might want to give more funding to NASA to work on asteroid defense, in case we're threatened by a big one, and that is, IMO, a very worthy project. I think that is exactly the kind of thing NASA ought to be working on (aside from figuring out warp speed travel, obvi!). Asteroid threats to Earth are real, and even if moron Trump has a child's idea of a "Space Force", if that fantasy involves awesome machines that will redirect asteroids with Earth in their path, then it's not ALL bad. But fuck, that all should be an international effort. Trump seems to think it's a job that just the US can handle, which is idiotic in the extreme.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Kat said:
    Good news! Our fraud president made the cover of Time again!

     -
    A brilliant cover. 
    I agree
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    PJ_Soul said:
    "Space Force"...LMFAO...
    I don't find this whole "space force" thing funny at all, because the American government is looking to "rule" in space, and that is a scary idea, not an outrageous one. It's a fantastical idea like Star Wars here - there are very real considerations related to weapons in orbit, as well as telecommunication satellites. Nations "fighting" over space is a realistic possibility, and I think the world needs to get a lot more hard core about preventing this kind of militaristic, "us vs them" thinking when it comes to space exploration and technology NOW. Space exploration and space technology has to proceed in a cooperative, shared, global way, not in a space race kind of way. I'm not surprised in the least that Trump and friends are aiming at trying to build some kind of power in this context - I hope they and any other nation who is aiming to do the same are stopped in their tracks somehow.
    Will Trump build a Death Star?
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Some people do believe whatever happens to be on their mind at the time, regardless of whether it contradicts what they believed ten minutes ago or when it contradicts the new thought ten minutes from now. It doesn’t necessarily mean he’s dementing. It has more to do with personality and capacity for reflection and self awareness, or lack thereof. 
    If it were just that I wouldn't think he's got some form of dementia at all. But combine this stuff with the true incoherence going on when when he speaks and just some of the really zany behaviour he's exhibited over time... I think there is something wrong with him mentally. That doesn't mean I don't also know he's a psychopath with a complete inability for self-reflection and a total lack of empathy. Of course he is those things too. He's a walking, incoherently talking, psychological disaster.
    Sociopath... 
    He ticks a few boxes for narcissistic personality disorder.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I wonder if this is a not so subtle message from her husband?


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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I read a comment on social media regarding Melania that made me nearly spit out my morning coffee...
    "Ofdonald"
    :lol:

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    "Space Force"...LMFAO...
    I don't find this whole "space force" thing funny at all, because the American government is looking to "rule" in space, and that is a scary idea, not an outrageous one. It's a fantastical idea like Star Wars here - there are very real considerations related to weapons in orbit, as well as telecommunication satellites. Nations "fighting" over space is a realistic possibility, and I think the world needs to get a lot more hard core about preventing this kind of militaristic, "us vs them" thinking when it comes to space exploration and technology NOW. Space exploration and space technology has to proceed in a cooperative, shared, global way, not in a space race kind of way. I'm not surprised in the least that Trump and friends are aiming at trying to build some kind of power in this context - I hope they and any other nation who is aiming to do the same are stopped in their tracks somehow.
    I understand what you are saying.  Me LMFAO is the picture of the space force that trump has in his head ... he compared the space force to the Air Force.  I wouldn't be surprised if his vision of the space force is a fleet of single pilot aircraft patrolling.
    Fair enough, I'm sure you're right.... It really makes me angry thinking about how he thinks America should have some kind of ultimate role of power in space. Also, he said at his latest rally that he's "reopening NASA". That fucking idiot. :angry:
    That said... It also sounds like he might want to give more funding to NASA to work on asteroid defense, in case we're threatened by a big one, and that is, IMO, a very worthy project. I think that is exactly the kind of thing NASA ought to be working on (aside from figuring out warp speed travel, obvi!). Asteroid threats to Earth are real, and even if moron Trump has a child's idea of a "Space Force", if that fantasy involves awesome machines that will redirect asteroids with Earth in their path, then it's not ALL bad. But fuck, that all should be an international effort. Trump seems to think it's a job that just the US can handle, which is idiotic in the extreme.
    Space exploration and research definitely needs to be an international effort.  The asteroid threat to earth and how to deflect would have to be an international effort for sure.  I think space should stay weapon free.  Human free would be a good idea as well.  I'm sure the brass at the pentagon were just rolling their eyes at the of a space force...before he builds a space force America must first be able to start manned flights to the ISS again...but I'm not a huge supporter of space travel.  
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    If you think brass at the pentagon are laughing at space force you've got another thing coming


  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    my2hands said:
    If you think brass at the pentagon are laughing at space force you've got another thing coming


    Please explain...I mean he is directing these people to invest in a space force...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,482
    mcgruff10 said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    What a joke, we're pulling out of the UN Human Rights coalition because of other countries bias against Israel while we're creating kiddie prisons at the borders. Fuck you USA.

    US leaving UN Human Rights Council -- "a cesspool of political bias."

    I would normally be appalled...but after giving it thought, post 9/11 America does not deserve a seat on the human rights council 
    Have you seen who is on that council?

    yes, why?
    You still think the US doesn’t belong on the list with Saudi Arabia, Cuba, and a few others there?  The US is the worst of that list....or would you remove more?
    I could certainly argue other nations should not be on the council... but i've had a nice front row seat here in America post 9/11, and yes, we might just take the cake... off the top of my head, in no particular order

    1. Iraq invasion based on lies slaughtered 1+ million 
    2. Widespread torture authorized by the oval office
    3. Black rendition sights, literally kidnapping and disappearing people
    4. Guantanomo, people held YEARS without charge or trial, which still has prisoners there
    5. Mass incarceration with worlds highest prison rate
    6. Widespread police brutality
    7. Trump administration policies towards refugees & immigrants
    8. Unjust laws targeting LGBTQ community
    9. Warrantless wiretapping and widespread privacy violations
    10. Do I really need to keep going?

    Can you top that?
    one million deaths for the Iraqi invasion seems very very high. 

    No biggie, right? Kind of like gun deaths. Nobody talks about the survivors and those who have to live on. Meh, in the historical context of armed conflict, maybe a mere drop in the bucket?
     
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,482
    What’s the ruckus?
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,120
    Kat said:
    Good news! Our fraud president made the cover of Time again!

     -
    A brilliant cover. 
    I guarantee you THAT cover is NOT going up on his wall of Time magazine covers. 

    He likes to frame and post up his Time covers, maybe it makes him feel far more important than he really is.

    Did anyone catch the cover a week or two ago where the title was KING ME? The image was him looking at himself in a mirror as the reflected image is him dressed up as a king.

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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,357
    I read a comment on social media regarding Melania that made me nearly spit out my morning coffee...
    "Ofdonald"
    :lol:

    Excellent
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,259
    Racist in chief if you support him you are supporting an admitted supremacist and his minions will come out in full force to vote for him come 2020 ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    What’s the ruckus?
    The haves have not a clue
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    Racist in chief if you support him you are ssupporting an admitted supremacist and his minions will come out in full force to vote for him come 2020 ...
    When you are a supporter of a racist, any racist,  including the Racist-in-Chief, you are a racist as well.
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    Donald Trump, the Deal Maker!!

     
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    He is fucking delusional.
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    I'm not defending Trump at all with the policy but I hate fake news.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-says-little-honduran-girl-time-cover-not-024329900.html

    Father says little Honduran girl on Time cover was not taken from mother

    Time Magazine cover shows Trump looking down on crying migrant toddler

    By Gustavo Palencia

    TEGUCIGALPA (Reuters) - The Honduran toddler pictured sobbing in a pink jacket before U.S. President Donald Trump on an upcoming cover of Time magazine was not separated from her mother at the U.S. border, according to a man who says he is the girl's father.

    The powerful original photograph, taken at the scene of a border detention by Getty Images photographer John Moore, became one of the iconic images in the flurry of media coverage about the separation of families by the Trump administration.

    Dozens of newspapers and magazines around the globe published the picture, swelling the tide of outrage that pushed Trump to back down Wednesday and say families would no longer be separated.

    "My daughter has become a symbol of the ... separation of children at the U.S. border. She may have even touched President Trump's heart," Denis Valera told Reuters in a telephone interview.

    Valera said the little girl and her mother, Sandra Sanchez, have been detained together in the Texas border town of McAllen, where Sanchez has applied for asylum, and they were not separated after being detained near the border.

    Honduran deputy foreign minister Nelly Jerez confirmed Valera's version of events.

    Varela said he was awestruck and pained when he first saw the photo of his crying daughter on TV. "Seeing what was happening to her in that moment breaks anyone's heart," he said.

    The photo was used on a Facebook fundraiser that drew more than $17 million dollars in donations from close to half a million people for the Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services (RAICES), a Texas-based nonprofit that provides legal defense services to immigrants and refugees.

    The Trump administration's "zero-tolerance" immigration policy had led to the separation of 2,342 children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border between May 5 and June 9.

    Video footage of separated children sitting in cages, an audiotape of wailing children and Moore's photo had sparked worldwide anger over Trump's immigration policies.

    Sanchez and her daughter had left Puerto Cortes, a major Honduran port north of the capital city, Tegucigalpa, without telling Valera or the couple's three other children, he said.

    He said he imagined that Sanchez left with the little girl for the United States, where she has family, in search of better economic opportunities.

    "If they are deported, that is OK as long as they do not leave the child without her mother," Valera said. "I am waiting to see what happens with them."

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
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    g under p said:
    Kat said:
    Good news! Our fraud president made the cover of Time again!

     -
    A brilliant cover. 
    I guarantee you THAT cover is NOT going up on his wall of Time magazine covers. 

    He likes to frame and post up his Time covers, maybe it makes him feel far more important than he really is.

    Did anyone catch the cover a week or two ago where the title was KING ME? The image was him looking at himself in a mirror as the reflected image is him dressed up as a king.

    Peace


    I think he'd put that cover up on his wall in a heartbeat. From his perspective, what's wrong with it? He looks mean? No...he'd probably think he looks powerful.

    And you say he frames Time covers because "maybe it makes him feel far more important than he really is." The fact of the matter is that he's by far the most important person in the entire world right now. For better or worse. "Worse" for the most part.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Good news! Our fraud president made the cover of Time again!

     -
    The father of this girl says her and her mother were never separated and it "broke his heart" to see the images of her crying....

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-theyre-together-and-theyre-safe-father-of-honduran-two-year-old-who-became-the-face-of-the-family-separation-crisis-when-she-was-photographed-in-tears-as-her-mother-was-searched-by-us-border-control-speaks-out/ar-AAyYopn?ocid=spartanntp
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,603
    The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue.  It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump.  He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake".  But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they?  I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.  
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    mrussel1 said:
    The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue.  It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump.  He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake".  But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they?  I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.  
    I get that but it allows for Trump’s fake news narrative. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    mrussel1 said:
    The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue.  It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump.  He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake".  But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they?  I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.  
    True...BUT...it will now just be another Fake News item to Trump and his supporters.  The media HAS to be smarter than this.  Way to take away from the conversation.  Nevermind the thousands that were separated from their parents...it'll only be "See Fake News, that girl wasn't separated"

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,482
    Good news! Our fraud president made the cover of Time again!

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    The father of this girl says her and her mother were never separated and it "broke his heart" to see the images of her crying....

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-theyre-together-and-theyre-safe-father-of-honduran-two-year-old-who-became-the-face-of-the-family-separation-crisis-when-she-was-photographed-in-tears-as-her-mother-was-searched-by-us-border-control-speaks-out/ar-AAyYopn?ocid=spartanntp
    Because the father “heard” from family members that they were never separated is by no means definitive proof that weren’t.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    mrussel1 said:
    The little girl is a symbol of the overall issue.  It's not meant to be literal to this little girl or to Trump.  He obviously didn't see her or look at her, so by that narrow definition, both images are "fake".  But no one ever thought they came face to face, did they?  I'm sure no one is arguing that there aren't actual separations happening.  
    I get that but it allows for Trump’s fake news narrative. 
    agree. 
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