Knowing What You Know Now, Would You Still Support Trump for President?

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TXPosts: 4,180
    Well yeah, that’s what the local news would always call them, cooked illegals.  Because they would pack a truck full of people for usually 10k a pop, drive em over the border into El Paso, San Antonio, Brownsville, Austin, and then get spooked leave them locked up in there.  It’s like 150 degrees in the back of the truck in the summer, so they’d all die and basically cook in there.  Shit was nasty, and you’d hear about it all the time.

    shit, while we’re on the subject, my local paper which is called Community Impact printed a few weeks ago in my zip code (78749) the population is 47% illegal.  Stats for the whole city of Austin and the state were in there... I was shocked!
    Were you shocked because even with a lot of illegals, the city was able to function pretty normal? 
    No I was just shocked the number was so high! I would have figured like 1/4, not 1/2
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 16,157
    The u.s. added over 300,000 jobs last month and trump is going to meet with Kim jong un, Not bad in my book. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,242
    mcgruff10 said:
    The u.s. added over 300,000 jobs last month and trump is going to meet with Kim jong un, Not bad in my book. 
    if it was all about what he's done, you're right, it wouldn't be as terrible as everyone says (much of it still bad, but I digress). but a good part of it is how he conducts himself. he just called a journalist a "sleepy eyed son of a bitch". what kind of shithead president says something like that in public?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,727
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    Also, I wouldn't be so quick to think of this meeting with Kim Jong Un as a good thing...... The chances of Trump making everything worse are extremely high.

    One must also look at the bad things Trump has done. So 300,000 jobs last month (what kind of jobs? And how many were lost at the same time? Such numbers are very misleading more often or not), I mean besides the daily shithead stuff he pulls and the sinister anti-media, fascist stuff. Saying "not bad in my book" ignores a LOT of things.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 16,157

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/09/investing/jobs-report-sector-gains/index.html

    There is a lot to like about the stellar February jobs report. But its most impressive takeaway is that people in traditionally blue collar and white collar industries got new jobs last month. 

    Of the 313,000 jobs that were added last month, 92,000 were in the construction and manufacturing sectors. Another 50,000 were from retailers that were hiring. 

    "Blue-collar sectors drove these gains, led by mining and construction. Manufacturing is now outpacing the economy overall, and even retail had a strong February," said Jed Kolko, chief economist with job search site Indeed, in a note titled "Almost Nobody Left Behind in February's Jobs Report.


    and with the meeting with Kim Jong Un, it could go bad or it could go really well, time will tell.


    Hugh I agree that President Trump is a complete ass as a person but adding a lot of jobs and meeting with the world's worst dictator in a face to face meeting is something positive.

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,727
    Yay! At this rate, Trump is a shoe-in for 2020! :joy: This is how these guys always win.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,396
    mcgruff10 said:
    The u.s. added over 300,000 jobs last month and trump is going to meet with Kim jong un, Not bad in my book. 
    if it was all about what he's done, you're right, it wouldn't be as terrible as everyone says (much of it still bad, but I digress). but a good part of it is how he conducts himself. he just called a journalist a "sleepy eyed son of a bitch". what kind of shithead president says something like that in public?
    He also called NFL players who were protesting SOB’s ... 


  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,357
    mcgruff10 said:

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/09/investing/jobs-report-sector-gains/index.html

    There is a lot to like about the stellar February jobs report. But its most impressive takeaway is that people in traditionally blue collar and white collar industries got new jobs last month. 

    Of the 313,000 jobs that were added last month, 92,000 were in the construction and manufacturing sectors. Another 50,000 were from retailers that were hiring. 

    "Blue-collar sectors drove these gains, led by mining and construction. Manufacturing is now outpacing the economy overall, and even retail had a strong February," said Jed Kolko, chief economist with job search site Indeed, in a note titled "Almost Nobody Left Behind in February's Jobs Report.


    and with the meeting with Kim Jong Un, it could go bad or it could go really well, time will tell.


    Hugh I agree that President Trump is a complete ass as a person but adding a lot of jobs and meeting with the world's worst dictator in a face to face meeting is something positive.

    Yes silver linings are present but look who’s representing us at the negotiating table a total moron , and his totally under Putin’s thumb ...
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,357
    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/03/16/retired-4-star-general-says-trump-is-serious-threat-to-national-security/
    So tell me who’s assessment do you trust more a 4 star general or bafoon ?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,221
    Treason used to get you hung in this country 
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,221
    mcgruff10 said:

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/09/investing/jobs-report-sector-gains/index.html

    There is a lot to like about the stellar February jobs report. But its most impressive takeaway is that people in traditionally blue collar and white collar industries got new jobs last month. 

    Of the 313,000 jobs that were added last month, 92,000 were in the construction and manufacturing sectors. Another 50,000 were from retailers that were hiring. 

    "Blue-collar sectors drove these gains, led by mining and construction. Manufacturing is now outpacing the economy overall, and even retail had a strong February," said Jed Kolko, chief economist with job search site Indeed, in a note titled "Almost Nobody Left Behind in February's Jobs Report.


    and with the meeting with Kim Jong Un, it could go bad or it could go really well, time will tell.


    Hugh I agree that President Trump is a complete ass as a person but adding a lot of jobs and meeting with the world's worst dictator in a face to face meeting is something positive.

    It's been a bull market with job growth for 9 years running now... why do people actually think Trump turned around an economy? I don't understand it

    Horrible leaders have had good economies before, that doesn't change the fact that they are horrible leaders
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 5,303
    mcgruff10 said:
    The u.s. added over 300,000 jobs last month and trump is going to meet with Kim jong un, Not bad in my book. 
    if it was all about what he's done, you're right, it wouldn't be as terrible as everyone says (much of it still bad, but I digress). but a good part of it is how he conducts himself. he just called a journalist a "sleepy eyed son of a bitch". what kind of shithead president says something like that in public?
    An immature,  petulant,  spoiled narcissistic "president" who only thinks about, and is worried about, one person and one person only.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,642
    The hypocrisy of republicans being happy about Trump agreeing to meet with Kim Jong Un is on another level

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-trump-obama_us_5aab5c5ee4b05b2217fd9ee3
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,208
    The hypocrisy of republicans being happy about Trump agreeing to meet with Kim Jong Un is on another level

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-trump-obama_us_5aab5c5ee4b05b2217fd9ee3
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,971
    The hypocrisy of republicans being happy about Trump agreeing to meet with Kim Jong Un is on another level

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-trump-obama_us_5aab5c5ee4b05b2217fd9ee3
    Particularly without conditions and railing against such a meeting because it would give Kim Jong Un what he craved most, legitimacy by a “superpower.” But that is the current state of the repube party, principleless.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,971
    500+ days. Any defenders?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,150
    500+ days. Any defenders?
    There are lots of them out there in the real world....less so in here.  
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,033
    500+ days. Any defenders?
    There are lots of them out there in the real world....less so in here.  
    Oh yeah; they are all over the place.  Anecdotally it seems like very few people have gone from like-to-hate or hate-to-like.  

    For many of them, it was never about "issues" and I think it stopped being about the good of the country long ago.  This is about pissing off their greatest enemy.  This is also known as "owning libs."  This is not about issues, the economy, abortion, the environment or even immigration, walls, religion, or homophobia.  This is a big, thousand-foot-scale cultural war.  Some of those issues I mentioned (immigration, religion, etc.) play a role in this war but for the most part, this is about sticking it to whoever they're sticking it to...the "elite" I guess.  

    And they're winning the war.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,971
    OnWis97 said:
    500+ days. Any defenders?
    There are lots of them out there in the real world....less so in here.  
    Oh yeah; they are all over the place.  Anecdotally it seems like very few people have gone from like-to-hate or hate-to-like.  

    For many of them, it was never about "issues" and I think it stopped being about the good of the country long ago.  This is about pissing off their greatest enemy.  This is also known as "owning libs."  This is not about issues, the economy, abortion, the environment or even immigration, walls, religion, or homophobia.  This is a big, thousand-foot-scale cultural war.  Some of those issues I mentioned (immigration, religion, etc.) play a role in this war but for the most part, this is about sticking it to whoever they're sticking it to...the "elite" I guess.  

    And they're winning the war.
    Against themselves, except they’re too stupid to realize  it.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,456
    OnWis97 said:
    500+ days. Any defenders?
    There are lots of them out there in the real world....less so in here.  
    Oh yeah; they are all over the place.  Anecdotally it seems like very few people have gone from like-to-hate or hate-to-like.  

    For many of them, it was never about "issues" and I think it stopped being about the good of the country long ago.  This is about pissing off their greatest enemy.  This is also known as "owning libs."  This is not about issues, the economy, abortion, the environment or even immigration, walls, religion, or homophobia.  This is a big, thousand-foot-scale cultural war.  Some of those issues I mentioned (immigration, religion, etc.) play a role in this war but for the most part, this is about sticking it to whoever they're sticking it to...the "elite" I guess.  

    And they're winning the war.
    Sticking it to the elite by trusting a guy who claims to be a billionaire. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,727
    OnWis97 said:
    500+ days. Any defenders?
    There are lots of them out there in the real world....less so in here.  
    Oh yeah; they are all over the place.  Anecdotally it seems like very few people have gone from like-to-hate or hate-to-like.  

    For many of them, it was never about "issues" and I think it stopped being about the good of the country long ago.  This is about pissing off their greatest enemy.  This is also known as "owning libs."  This is not about issues, the economy, abortion, the environment or even immigration, walls, religion, or homophobia.  This is a big, thousand-foot-scale cultural war.  Some of those issues I mentioned (immigration, religion, etc.) play a role in this war but for the most part, this is about sticking it to whoever they're sticking it to...the "elite" I guess.  

    And they're winning the war.
    Sticking it to the elite by trusting a guy who claims to be a billionaire. 
    And only associates with the elite, lol. Fucking brilliant.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,033
    OnWis97 said:
    500+ days. Any defenders?
    There are lots of them out there in the real world....less so in here.  
    Oh yeah; they are all over the place.  Anecdotally it seems like very few people have gone from like-to-hate or hate-to-like.  

    For many of them, it was never about "issues" and I think it stopped being about the good of the country long ago.  This is about pissing off their greatest enemy.  This is also known as "owning libs."  This is not about issues, the economy, abortion, the environment or even immigration, walls, religion, or homophobia.  This is a big, thousand-foot-scale cultural war.  Some of those issues I mentioned (immigration, religion, etc.) play a role in this war but for the most part, this is about sticking it to whoever they're sticking it to...the "elite" I guess.  

    And they're winning the war.
    Sticking it to the elite by trusting a guy who claims to be a billionaire. 
    An Ivy League-educated obscenely rich (at least at one time) guy who has spent much of his adult life hanging out in Manhattan with NYC elites is th guy who finally remembered the forgotten America.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,357
    If you still support this asshole you are demented ! 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,736
    500+ days. Any defenders?
    Probably few to none here, but out there? 

    Yes, where I live, the demented walk the streets!  They emblazon their vehicles with flags and bumper stickers.  Scary people! 

    Oddly, when I was visiting my step daughter in the in San Francisco's Castro district, there were none to be found!  It was refreshing! 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,971
    C’mon, the brilliant brilliance that was brilliantly on display today? Are you kidding me? There’s no one here willing to vote for Team Trump Treason knowing what they know now? No one?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,971
    Putin on the ritz would.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,736
    Putin on the ritz would.
    But only because he's crackers.

    Speaking of Putin on the Ritz...

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  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USAPosts: 2,789
    Trump=Jesus=Son of God=Dennis Rodman=Eddie Vedder
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 24,736
    vaggar99 said:
    Trump=Jesus=Son of God=Dennis Rodman=Eddie Vedder
    An orange man in flowing white robes, lip and nose piercing, screaming WHY GO?  ... would you let your daughter go out with such a man?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,221
    brianlux said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Trump=Jesus=Son of God=Dennis Rodman=Eddie Vedder
    An orange man in flowing white robes, lip and nose piercing, screaming WHY GO?  ... would you let your daughter go out with such a man?
    Yes!
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