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Brand New - Science Fiction

Has anyone picked up the new Brand New album, Science Fiction, that dropped unexpectadly this week? It's phenomenal and really meant to be listen to as a full album.

This has been one of my favorite bands since I used to see them at Sports Plus out on Long Island back in the day. I still get disappointed when they are referred to as emo-rockers when that really isn't fair because of the era they came up in.

Nonetheless, I highly recommend the new album.

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    Daron OshayDaron Oshay Middletown, NJ Posts: 2,492
    Diving in now 
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    goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,271
    edited November 2017
    I just listened to Science Fiction, Daisy, and Devil & God this morning. Then I read this news this evening.

    The victim was 15 when it started. What a piece of shit.

    http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2017/11/13/brand-new-sexual-assault-allegations/

    "In an effort to address recent events and the public conversation currently happening, I feel it is important to make a clear and personal statement.

    The actions of my past have caused pain and harm to a number of people, and I want to say that I am absolutely sorry. I do not stand in defense of myself nor do I forgive myself. I was selfish, narcissistic, and insensitive in my past, and there are a number of people who have had to shoulder the burden of my failures. I apologize for the hurt I have caused, and hope to be able to take the correct actions to earn forgiveness and trust. 

    Early on in my life, I developed a dependent and addictive relationship with sex. I was scared of it, ashamed, and unwilling or unable to admit it, and so it grew into a consistent and terrible problem. Years ago, after admitting my habits and cheating to my then soon to be wife, I began to approach my problem in a serious way. I entered professional treatment, both in group therapy and individual counseling, and revealed the realities of what a terrible place I had gotten to in my life, and what a terrible impact my actions had on people. 

    Lust, sex, love, and arousal were coping tools for me, and I returned to them repeatedly. I detached my own feelings and emotions from most of my sexual interactions. I hid, or lied about my behavior to escape reproach. I was a habitual cheater. I have been unfaithful in many, if not most of my relationships, including the relationship with my wife, who has with all of her might, patience, and grace, tried to hold our marriage together, despite having to endure the pain of the revelations of my past. It is heart wrenching that the most important changes in my life have come at the expense of others.

    I am sorry for how I have hurt people, mistreated them, lied, and cheated. I am sorry for ignoring the way in which my position, status, and power as a member of a band affected the way people viewed me or their approach to their interactions with me. And I am sorry for how often I have not afforded women the respect, support, or honesty that they deserved, and which is their right. I believe in the equality and autonomy of all, but in my life I have been more of a detriment to these ideals than an advocate.

    I am working to shed all my narcissism and my self obsession, and to be better. In sobriety I have changed my life and my mind in real and important ways. I have also revealed the truth of my behaviors to myself and to others. I do not have words to express the patience and help my wife has offered me. I love my family with an intensity and realness that I have never felt before, and as a husband and a father I have been granted the opportunity to wake up each day with the intent to serve my family and the people around me, and to feel, for the first time that I have purpose.

    The fact remains that none of us get to put a wall up between who we are and who we were. I need to earn forgiveness. Concepts like repentance, compassion, and love, are made real through actions, and it’s through my actions that I need to prove change. I hope I can show humility, and that the pain I have caused people can heal. I am not above reproach, and no one should be.

    Jesse Lacey"

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    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,513
    edited November 2017
    This is a pretty damn good album - I'm really enjoying it. "Lit Me Up" is particularly awesome IMO.

    Too bad about the singer being a creep. I guess that is probably the end of the band.
    .... I am wondering what the end game is with all the accusations of sexual misconduct, when the law isn't involved? Is the mob planning on forgiving any of these people? If so, how will the ones worthy of forgiveness be chosen? What does it take to find redemption I wonder? When is redemption not an option no matter what? I'm very curious about how this will all pan out.
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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    Daron OshayDaron Oshay Middletown, NJ Posts: 2,492
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is a pretty damn good album - I'm really enjoying it. "Lit Me Up" is particularly awesome IMO.

    Too bad about the singer being a creep. I guess that is probably the end of the band.
    .... I am wondering what the end game is with all the accusations of sexual misconduct, when the law isn't involved? Is the mob planning on forgiving any of these people? If so, how will the ones worthy of forgiveness be chosen? What does it take to find redemption I wonder? When is redemption not an option no matter what? I'm very curious about how this will all pan out.
    Who said they aren't?
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    PJ_Soul said:
    This is a pretty damn good album - I'm really enjoying it. "Lit Me Up" is particularly awesome IMO.

    Too bad about the singer being a creep. I guess that is probably the end of the band.
    .... I am wondering what the end game is with all the accusations of sexual misconduct, when the law isn't involved? Is the mob planning on forgiving any of these people? If so, how will the ones worthy of forgiveness be chosen? What does it take to find redemption I wonder? When is redemption not an option no matter what? I'm very curious about how this will all pan out.
    Why should you forgive or support someone who chooses to groom and demand pictures/video etc of sexual nature from underage girls.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,140
    Wow what the f.  I still haven’t even gotten my black preorder vinyl that I ordered about 4 months back but now I’m thinking about cancelling it.  What a scumbag.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,513
    PJ_Soul said:
    This is a pretty damn good album - I'm really enjoying it. "Lit Me Up" is particularly awesome IMO.

    Too bad about the singer being a creep. I guess that is probably the end of the band.
    .... I am wondering what the end game is with all the accusations of sexual misconduct, when the law isn't involved? Is the mob planning on forgiving any of these people? If so, how will the ones worthy of forgiveness be chosen? What does it take to find redemption I wonder? When is redemption not an option no matter what? I'm very curious about how this will all pan out.
    Why should you forgive or support someone who chooses to groom and demand pictures/video etc of sexual nature from underage girls.
    I have no idea. I'm just wondering, not suggesting I'm gearing up to forgive anyone. But I assume there must be some people out there who did bad shit and then realized their wrongs and became good people over many proceeding years. You know, rehabilitation. It happens sometimes... I think? 
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,513
    I just remembered that this album exists again and am listening for the first time since I last posted here I guess ... It's still awesome. I actually got halfway through the album before I remembered there were accusations against that guy...... Am I supposed to not enjoy the album or what? I never even knew who Brand New were before this album dropped, and I had never heard of the Jesse guy. I have literally zero sense of attachment to the artists of this album....
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    RoeDawg13RoeDawg13 Posts: 246
    I struggled for a little while listening to Brand New after the accusations dropped but I've made peace with it and am able to enjoy the music again. When I hit play I'm looking for good music, not a friend. He may very well be a terrible human being but the music is still well done.
    I am wired and fading...
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