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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,205
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Israeli Spokesperson Michal Maayan on why the IDF are shooting and killing protestors: "well you cant put them all in jail, there are hundreds of them, I can tell you they were attacking the fence"
    The fence must be protected at all cost, the fence! the fence!
    Jail the jail-less! Shoot the legless while you're at it!


    That's awful man what a fucked up world , there will be no peace this administration made sure of it ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 11,887
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Israeli Spokesperson Michal Maayan on why the IDF are shooting and killing protestors: "well you cant put them all in jail, there are hundreds of them, I can tell you they were attacking the fence"
    The fence must be protected at all cost, the fence! the fence!
    Jail the jail-less! Shoot the legless while you're at it!


    That's awful man what a fucked up world , there will be no peace this administration made sure of it ...
    So fuking pissed off.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 11,887
    benjs said:
    i think the time is long overdue when not only  israel is made a pariah, but also the united states and any other country(which includes my own) that chooses to stand with them. israel has continually shown for the past 70 years that they have no intention(nor have they ever) of living peacefully with the palestinians. instead they  burn their crops,  bulldoze their houses,  raze their villages, deny them the same amenities as the jews, separate families, restrict movement, require palestinians to have ID cards, subject  palestinians to checkpoints, commit midnight raids complete with and physical torture, murder with impunity as well as jail and kill their children.. and have convinced the world that they are the victim. ISRAEL HAS NEVER BEEN A VICTIM... IT IS AN APARTHEID STATE WHO CONTINUALLY ABUSES THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. 
    I find it sad that a group of people (the jews) who were victims of the holocaust have not learned from that experience and are now the evil, committing atrocities against the Palestinians. The jews would be the last group of people you'd  expect to commit atrocities in the world.
    I find it insulting and dangerous that people refer to Israelis and Jews like they’re one and the same. We’re not. Many of us have vehement opposition to Israeli actions or inactions, are outspoken in advocating for justice and peace, but since we are not Israelis, have no rights to produce any change there. 

    The practice of conflating these groups is very real, and I have had to defend myself against angry people who assumed that because I’m Jewish, I  and other Jews will blindly follow Israeli talking points. That’s likely why it’s after Israeli attacks on Palestinians, three times now in Toronto I can remember we’ve had swastikas graffitied on synagogues.

    Apologies for this semi-rant, but you hit a sore spot.

    No need to apologize Benjs. People have been hating on The Jews for centuries. There are many people  in the world, and a few on here, who blame The Jews for many bad things. And also believe that The Jews are in control.of the world' financial systems and the weather.
    All of this is based solely on fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy,  and lies.

    Shalom 

    I hope you're not having a dig at me there?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 13,744
    benjs said:
    i think the time is long overdue when not only  israel is made a pariah, but also the united states and any other country(which includes my own) that chooses to stand with them. israel has continually shown for the past 70 years that they have no intention(nor have they ever) of living peacefully with the palestinians. instead they  burn their crops,  bulldoze their houses,  raze their villages, deny them the same amenities as the jews, separate families, restrict movement, require palestinians to have ID cards, subject  palestinians to checkpoints, commit midnight raids complete with and physical torture, murder with impunity as well as jail and kill their children.. and have convinced the world that they are the victim. ISRAEL HAS NEVER BEEN A VICTIM... IT IS AN APARTHEID STATE WHO CONTINUALLY ABUSES THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. 
    I find it sad that a group of people (the jews) who were victims of the holocaust have not learned from that experience and are now the evil, committing atrocities against the Palestinians. The jews would be the last group of people you'd  expect to commit atrocities in the world.
    I find it insulting and dangerous that people refer to Israelis and Jews like they’re one and the same. We’re not. Many of us have vehement opposition to Israeli actions or inactions, are outspoken in advocating for justice and peace, but since we are not Israelis, have no rights to produce any change there. 

    The practice of conflating these groups is very real, and I have had to defend myself against angry people who assumed that because I’m Jewish, I  and other Jews will blindly follow Israeli talking points. That’s likely why it’s after Israeli attacks on Palestinians, three times now in Toronto I can remember we’ve had swastikas graffitied on synagogues.

    Apologies for this semi-rant, but you hit a sore spot.

    No need to apologize Benjs. People have been hating on The Jews for centuries. There are many people  in the world, and a few on here, who blame The Jews for many bad things. And also believe that The Jews are in control.of the world' financial systems and the weather.
    All of this is based solely on fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy,  and lies.

    Shalom 

    I hope you're not having a dig at me there?
    doubt it. havent seenyou subscribe to any of whats stated above.

    so other than mistakenly casting the wide net snaring the whole ,when I believe you really meant the certain few , the above statement doesnt apply to you, does it?
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 11,887
    mickeyrat said:
    benjs said:
    i think the time is long overdue when not only  israel is made a pariah, but also the united states and any other country(which includes my own) that chooses to stand with them. israel has continually shown for the past 70 years that they have no intention(nor have they ever) of living peacefully with the palestinians. instead they  burn their crops,  bulldoze their houses,  raze their villages, deny them the same amenities as the jews, separate families, restrict movement, require palestinians to have ID cards, subject  palestinians to checkpoints, commit midnight raids complete with and physical torture, murder with impunity as well as jail and kill their children.. and have convinced the world that they are the victim. ISRAEL HAS NEVER BEEN A VICTIM... IT IS AN APARTHEID STATE WHO CONTINUALLY ABUSES THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. 
    I find it sad that a group of people (the jews) who were victims of the holocaust have not learned from that experience and are now the evil, committing atrocities against the Palestinians. The jews would be the last group of people you'd  expect to commit atrocities in the world.
    I find it insulting and dangerous that people refer to Israelis and Jews like they’re one and the same. We’re not. Many of us have vehement opposition to Israeli actions or inactions, are outspoken in advocating for justice and peace, but since we are not Israelis, have no rights to produce any change there. 

    The practice of conflating these groups is very real, and I have had to defend myself against angry people who assumed that because I’m Jewish, I  and other Jews will blindly follow Israeli talking points. That’s likely why it’s after Israeli attacks on Palestinians, three times now in Toronto I can remember we’ve had swastikas graffitied on synagogues.

    Apologies for this semi-rant, but you hit a sore spot.

    No need to apologize Benjs. People have been hating on The Jews for centuries. There are many people  in the world, and a few on here, who blame The Jews for many bad things. And also believe that The Jews are in control.of the world' financial systems and the weather.
    All of this is based solely on fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy,  and lies.

    Shalom 

    I hope you're not having a dig at me there?
    doubt it. havent seenyou subscribe to any of whats stated above.

    so other than mistakenly casting the wide net snaring the whole ,when I believe you really meant the certain few , the above statement doesnt apply to you, does it?
    Which is why I am asking. Who knows what he/she is thinking.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 11,887
    Don't like the tone of your post btw...
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 13,744
    Don't like the tone of your post btw...
    point being if you dont think it applies, why should you really care what they think?

    you go ahead and have a day.

    btw, my tone suggested I dont believe it applied to you.  but whatever.
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 11,887
    mickeyrat said:
    Don't like the tone of your post btw...
    point being if you dont think it applies, why should you really care what they think?

    you go ahead and have a day.

    btw, my tone suggested I dont believe it applied to you.  but whatever.
    "the above statement doesnt apply to you, does it?"

    I am referring to the above, it sounds like you're annoyed....
    Why are you always like this towards me?
    Anyways, peace.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 4,692
    benjs said:
    i think the time is long overdue when not only  israel is made a pariah, but also the united states and any other country(which includes my own) that chooses to stand with them. israel has continually shown for the past 70 years that they have no intention(nor have they ever) of living peacefully with the palestinians. instead they  burn their crops,  bulldoze their houses,  raze their villages, deny them the same amenities as the jews, separate families, restrict movement, require palestinians to have ID cards, subject  palestinians to checkpoints, commit midnight raids complete with and physical torture, murder with impunity as well as jail and kill their children.. and have convinced the world that they are the victim. ISRAEL HAS NEVER BEEN A VICTIM... IT IS AN APARTHEID STATE WHO CONTINUALLY ABUSES THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. 
    I find it sad that a group of people (the jews) who were victims of the holocaust have not learned from that experience and are now the evil, committing atrocities against the Palestinians. The jews would be the last group of people you'd  expect to commit atrocities in the world.
    I find it insulting and dangerous that people refer to Israelis and Jews like they’re one and the same. We’re not. Many of us have vehement opposition to Israeli actions or inactions, are outspoken in advocating for justice and peace, but since we are not Israelis, have no rights to produce any change there. 

    The practice of conflating these groups is very real, and I have had to defend myself against angry people who assumed that because I’m Jewish, I  and other Jews will blindly follow Israeli talking points. That’s likely why it’s after Israeli attacks on Palestinians, three times now in Toronto I can remember we’ve had swastikas graffitied on synagogues.

    Apologies for this semi-rant, but you hit a sore spot.

    No need to apologize Benjs. People have been hating on The Jews for centuries. There are many people  in the world, and a few on here, who blame The Jews for many bad things. And also believe that The Jews are in control.of the world' financial systems and the weather.
    All of this is based solely on fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy,  and lies.

    Shalom 

    I hope you're not having a dig at me there?
    Nope no dig at you.
    The people on here who subscribe to the conspiracy theories  I wrote about know exactly who they  are.
    And we know who they are as well.
    Hate cannot be hidden.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,080
    benjs said:
    i think the time is long overdue when not only  israel is made a pariah, but also the united states and any other country(which includes my own) that chooses to stand with them. israel has continually shown for the past 70 years that they have no intention(nor have they ever) of living peacefully with the palestinians. instead they  burn their crops,  bulldoze their houses,  raze their villages, deny them the same amenities as the jews, separate families, restrict movement, require palestinians to have ID cards, subject  palestinians to checkpoints, commit midnight raids complete with and physical torture, murder with impunity as well as jail and kill their children.. and have convinced the world that they are the victim. ISRAEL HAS NEVER BEEN A VICTIM... IT IS AN APARTHEID STATE WHO CONTINUALLY ABUSES THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. 
    I find it sad that a group of people (the jews) who were victims of the holocaust have not learned from that experience and are now the evil, committing atrocities against the Palestinians. The jews would be the last group of people you'd  expect to commit atrocities in the world.
    I find it insulting and dangerous that people refer to Israelis and Jews like they’re one and the same. We’re not. Many of us have vehement opposition to Israeli actions or inactions, are outspoken in advocating for justice and peace, but since we are not Israelis, have no rights to produce any change there. 

    The practice of conflating these groups is very real, and I have had to defend myself against angry people who assumed that because I’m Jewish, I  and other Jews will blindly follow Israeli talking points. That’s likely why it’s after Israeli attacks on Palestinians, three times now in Toronto I can remember we’ve had swastikas graffitied on synagogues.

    Apologies for this semi-rant, but you hit a sore spot.

    No need to apologize Benjs. People have been hating on The Jews for centuries. There are many people  in the world, and a few on here, who blame The Jews for many bad things. And also believe that The Jews are in control.of the world' financial systems and the weather.
    All of this is based solely on fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy,  and lies.

    Shalom 

    You think this conflation is an intentional racist act - I don’t. I see much more intention in the conflation from Israeli leaders to convince the world to shut up about egregious acts.

    With all due respect, the self-pitying Jewish identity from what some see as perpetual hatred aimed at us is not something I come close to believing.
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,981
    I can only remember one person ever making comments about Jewish conspiracies on this board, and they’ve been banned for quite a while.  So I’m not sure who you’re referring to, Bentley.  Pretty serious accusation to leave hanging like that.  If you’re not willing to name names, you’re enabling, no?
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 11,887
    benjs said:
    i think the time is long overdue when not only  israel is made a pariah, but also the united states and any other country(which includes my own) that chooses to stand with them. israel has continually shown for the past 70 years that they have no intention(nor have they ever) of living peacefully with the palestinians. instead they  burn their crops,  bulldoze their houses,  raze their villages, deny them the same amenities as the jews, separate families, restrict movement, require palestinians to have ID cards, subject  palestinians to checkpoints, commit midnight raids complete with and physical torture, murder with impunity as well as jail and kill their children.. and have convinced the world that they are the victim. ISRAEL HAS NEVER BEEN A VICTIM... IT IS AN APARTHEID STATE WHO CONTINUALLY ABUSES THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. 
    I find it sad that a group of people (the jews) who were victims of the holocaust have not learned from that experience and are now the evil, committing atrocities against the Palestinians. The jews would be the last group of people you'd  expect to commit atrocities in the world.
    I find it insulting and dangerous that people refer to Israelis and Jews like they’re one and the same. We’re not. Many of us have vehement opposition to Israeli actions or inactions, are outspoken in advocating for justice and peace, but since we are not Israelis, have no rights to produce any change there. 

    The practice of conflating these groups is very real, and I have had to defend myself against angry people who assumed that because I’m Jewish, I  and other Jews will blindly follow Israeli talking points. That’s likely why it’s after Israeli attacks on Palestinians, three times now in Toronto I can remember we’ve had swastikas graffitied on synagogues.

    Apologies for this semi-rant, but you hit a sore spot.

    No need to apologize Benjs. People have been hating on The Jews for centuries. There are many people  in the world, and a few on here, who blame The Jews for many bad things. And also believe that The Jews are in control.of the world' financial systems and the weather.
    All of this is based solely on fear, hate, ignorance, jealousy,  and lies.

    Shalom 

    I hope you're not having a dig at me there?
    Nope no dig at you.
    The people on here who subscribe to the conspiracy theories  I wrote about know exactly who they  are.
    And we know who they are as well.
    Hate cannot be hidden.
    Cool. 
    :)
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 5,981
    Anyone watch Killing Gaza yet?
    Dan Cohen and Max Blumenthal.
    Incredible work.  On the ground after the 2014 war/slaughter.  It’s heartbreakingly humanizing.  You rarely see an  unapologetically Palestinian point of view.  That’s what this is.  Gotta pay a couple bucks but it’s worth it.

    https://vimeo.com/ondemand/killinggaza
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