Silencing Opposing Speech

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,571
    edited April 11
    I think that might be referencing Facebook filtering out more pro-conservative news or apparently having a pro-liberal bias in the the little news feed that’s off to the right that I ignore. I think conservatives are upset that facebook is delivering content that correlates with their audience values. 
    I think you're 100% right... but also there is the fact that facebook made some changes that filters out fake news... they are probably noticing a major decline in right-wing content because of that as well, lol.

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  • dignindignin Posts: 6,402
    I think that might be referencing Facebook filtering out more pro-conservative news or apparently having a pro-liberal bias in the the little news feed that’s off to the right that I ignore. I think conservatives are upset that facebook is delivering content that correlates with their audience values. 
    I think they are upset that Facebook has been deleting their fake news stories that they have been propagating. The same fake news they have been fed by Russian troll farms.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,837
    unsung said:
    Time to get another AR15, Unsung?
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,380
    I’m hoping that unsung comes back to describe this discrimination. I can hardly wait. 
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 3,334
    I’m hoping that unsung comes back to describe this discrimination. I can hardly wait. 
    He's searching Facebook for another meme to post.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,167
    All of the pro Trump people I know personally in my life... are all HEAVY Facebook users... and have repeated many fake news stories... just like our boy Unsung

    #brainwashed
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 6,975
    my2hands said:
    All of the pro Trump people I know personally in my life... are all HEAVY Facebook users... and have repeated many fake news stories... just like our boy Unsung

    #brainwashed
    I have one who when I point out it’s fake, his response is something like ‘oh well I like it anyway’. He’s odd because he supports trump and what he says and does, but then also back pedals and says he doesn’t care what happens to him re: impeachment because he’s getting what he wants. He buys into the whole ha ha look at the upset liberals stuff. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,207
    I hope they destroy him in court. Absolute destruction.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/business/media/alex-jones-sandy-hook.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

    Three parents whose children were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 filed a defamation lawsuit on Tuesday against Alex Jones, the right-wing conspiracy theorist who has long claimed the shooting was “completely fake” and a “giant hoax” perpetrated by opponents of the Second Amendment.

    Mr. Jones, the popular radio show host who also operates the conspiracy theory website Infowars, has questioned for years whether 20 children and six adults died in the school massacre in Newtown, Conn. To bolster his false claims, he often cites news reports and video clips from the hours after the shooting that turned out to be incomplete or based on wrong information.

    Soon after they buried their children, many Sandy Hook parents started to come under fierce attack by conspiracy theorists who have said they are actors in an elaborate scheme to enact stricter gun control laws. The fringe theories still thrive in small forums online but have reached a far greater audience through Mr. Jones, the most vocal propagator.


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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 4,829
    If only there was a conspiracy in to the disappearance of Alex Jones...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,837
    Silencing Michelle Wolfe because she doesn’t conform to “the agenda?”
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,055
    Silencing Michelle Wolfe because she doesn’t conform to “the agenda?”
    Honestly, I thought she was out of bounds for the event.  She had a few very funny lines but a couple crossed the line in my opinion...for the event.  In the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal.  But I think it was bad press for the press.  Trump has been trying to undermine them everyday...and they gave him fuel for his fire.  This will embolden his base and even some middle of the round people will support trump on this issue.  Again, trump has gotten his "enemy" to stoop to his level....and he has proven to win those battles.  Unbelievable that we can't have any adults in the room.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,837
    Silencing Michelle Wolfe because she doesn’t conform to “the agenda?”
    Honestly, I thought she was out of bounds for the event.  She had a few very funny lines but a couple crossed the line in my opinion...for the event.  In the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal.  But I think it was bad press for the press.  Trump has been trying to undermine them everyday...and they gave him fuel for his fire.  This will embolden his base and even some middle of the round people will support trump on this issue.  Again, trump has gotten his "enemy" to stoop to his level....and he has proven to win those battles.  Unbelievable that we can't have any adults in the room.
    That event isn’t supposed to have any adults in the room and that’s the point. 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,207
    I didn't know who Michelle Wolfe was before waking up to the faux outrage campaign on Sunday morning and I don't care who she is a day later.
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  • Kev - Coat and KeysKev - Coat and Keys EarthPosts: 332
    There was the exact same nonsense outrage after Colbert's WHCD in 2006 and what happened to that dude's career? 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,055
    There was the exact same nonsense outrage after Colbert's WHCD in 2006 and what happened to that dude's career? 
    Right....and where was the outrage 2008-2016? ;)
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 15,837
    There was the exact same nonsense outrage after Colbert's WHCD in 2006 and what happened to that dude's career? 
    Right....and where was the outrage 2008-2016? ;)
    I don’t recall the outrage when a comedian used the N word in relation to Obama as he sat on the Dias. Tough guy Team Trump Treason is a snowflake.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,207
    It's another example of why the Right cannot be taken seriously. Alex Jones and Donald Trump are A-OK. Some random comedian though? Public Enemy #1.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,025
    She was a little crude at times* but she also showed the press a mirror and they didn't like what they saw...or, I should say, they did not like that she made them look. The line about how they pretend to hate Trump but they actually love him was spot on.  For the most part, this was honest and we're not really down with honesty any more.

    I didn't need the shots at McConnell's and Christie's appearance (I want to be above that) but this focus on the eye-shadow line being an insult about Sanders's looks is silly.  She called her out for being a liar, something the "real media" won't do.  Her biggest mistake was not recognizing that many people would be to lazy to actually understand what she was doing.

    *Only the current president is supposed to speak that way.  We elected this guy in large part because we were "sick of political correctness" and he's thin-skinned as hell and the "Fuck Your Feelings" crowd is offended now.  The hypocrisy.  
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,055
    OnWis97 said:
    She was a little crude at times* but she also showed the press a mirror and they didn't like what they saw...or, I should say, they did not like that she made them look. The line about how they pretend to hate Trump but they actually love him was spot on.  For the most part, this was honest and we're not really down with honesty any more.

    I didn't need the shots at McConnell's and Christie's appearance (I want to be above that) but this focus on the eye-shadow line being an insult about Sanders's looks is silly.  She called her out for being a liar, something the "real media" won't do.  Her biggest mistake was not recognizing that many people would be to lazy to actually understand what she was doing.

    *Only the current president is supposed to speak that way.  We elected this guy in large part because we were "sick of political correctness" and he's thin-skinned as hell and the "Fuck Your Feelings" crowd is offended now.  The hypocrisy.  
    Certainly there are a lot of hypocrites being upset when they've been doing the same thing.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,167
    JimmyV said:
    It's another example of why the Right cannot be taken seriously. Alex Jones and Donald Trump are A-OK. Some random comedian though? Public Enemy #1.

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,167
    I've seen roasts on comedy central of B-list celebrities that were MUCH harsher then this week shit

    What a joke, literally 


  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,055
    my2hands said:
    I've seen roasts on comedy central of B-list celebrities that were MUCH harsher then this week shit

    What a joke, literally 


    Right an actual roast.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 5,996
    Fuck this faux outrage against Michelle Wolfe. She did what she was hired to do. They knew who she was and what her style was before she was hired for the gig, which by the way is a celebration of the freedom of the press and speech. Sounds like she did exactly what she was hired to do. And the outrage is simply hypocritical given the GOPs silence and complicity with Trump's years of inappropriate comments, bullying, insults, racism, misogyny and lies. Until the GOP calls out and censures Trump for his inappropriate actions and speech, this Wolfe drama is a nothingburger. A total smokescreen and a distraction.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,055
    jeffbr said:
    Fuck this faux outrage against Michelle Wolfe. She did what she was hired to do. They knew who she was and what her style was before she was hired for the gig, which by the way is a celebration of the freedom of the press and speech. Sounds like she did exactly what she was hired to do. And the outrage is simply hypocritical given the GOPs silence and complicity with Trump's years of inappropriate comments, bullying, insults, racism, misogyny and lies. Until the GOP calls out and censures Trump for his inappropriate actions and speech, this Wolfe drama is a nothingburger. A total smokescreen and a distraction.

    So wait, since the republicans are hypocrites and expressing “faux outrage” against Michelle Wolfe....then it’s ok to ignore Michelle Wolfe and people like her actions? This is the same old “he hit me first” bullshit.  Bunch of hypocrites is right.

    of course trump is an asshat and him name-calling and saying the press are liars is wrong....what’s that again about 2 wrongs?

    and again the worst part is the media has again stooped to trumps level, given his hypocritical base more ammo. Stupid play. We’ve seen this game before and it’s a game trump has been winning. He can’t win with brains and ideas, he need name calling and diversions. 
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 5,996
    I didn't say two wrongs make a right, or that she's excused from anything she might ever say because of Trump's history. I said that the GOP's outrage is completely phony and hypocritical. And I honestly didn't find Wolfe's routine over the top. Look back at politicians getting roasted at these events previously. Last year Hasan Minjah was told not to go after Trump, but did anyway. Seth Meyers completely roasted Trump when Trump was a shitty reality TV host and the chief birther conspiracy propagator. In 2006 at the same event Stephen Colbert roasted G.W. Bush's ass. This stuff is nothing new. The only difference this year is that the GOP are hyper sensitive and are trying to turn this into some sort of scandal to take heat and focus away from their corrupt supreme leader. 
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,167
    One is a comedian... one is the friggin POTUS 

    Just a little bit of a difference there 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 12,207
    my2hands said:
    One is a comedian... one is the friggin POTUS 

    Just a little bit of a difference there 
    Exactly. The two wrongs don't make a right argument flies in the face of that fact. Republicans elected the worst person imaginable. That isn't any comedian's fault.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,055
    JimmyV said:
    my2hands said:
    One is a comedian... one is the friggin POTUS 

    Just a little bit of a difference there 
    Exactly. The two wrongs don't make a right argument flies in the face of that fact. Republicans elected the worst person imaginable. That isn't any comedian's fault.
    Well that is certainly true.  Doesn't really fly in the face of that fact.  But certainly the POTUS doing crap like that is way worse.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 42,571
    jeffbr said:
    Fuck this faux outrage against Michelle Wolfe. She did what she was hired to do. They knew who she was and what her style was before she was hired for the gig, which by the way is a celebration of the freedom of the press and speech. Sounds like she did exactly what she was hired to do. And the outrage is simply hypocritical given the GOPs silence and complicity with Trump's years of inappropriate comments, bullying, insults, racism, misogyny and lies. Until the GOP calls out and censures Trump for his inappropriate actions and speech, this Wolfe drama is a nothingburger. A total smokescreen and a distraction.

    So wait, since the republicans are hypocrites and expressing “faux outrage” against Michelle Wolfe....then it’s ok to ignore Michelle Wolfe and people like her actions? This is the same old “he hit me first” bullshit.  Bunch of hypocrites is right.

    of course trump is an asshat and him name-calling and saying the press are liars is wrong....what’s that again about 2 wrongs?

    and again the worst part is the media has again stooped to trumps level, given his hypocritical base more ammo. Stupid play. We’ve seen this game before and it’s a game trump has been winning. He can’t win with brains and ideas, he need name calling and diversions. 
    Context is everything. She was literally taking part in a roast. That is pretty much the only time when such jokes ARE appropriate... I don't understand why people suddenly forgot what roasts are. :confused: How anyone is confusing that with how the POTUS acts on a day to day basis is beyond me. This is not a situation of two wrongs at all. It's one wrong (POTUS and friends) and one right (Michelle Wolfe).
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    MORE APPROPRIATE WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENTS’ ASSOCIATION DINNER JOKES FOR 2019

     

    Good evening, and welcome to the 2019 White House Correspondents’ Association dinner. After last year’s uproar, I’ve been instructed to use only dignified language and humor considered appropriate for our current cultural discourse.

    Low-IQ crazy Kellyanne Conway is here tonight. Kellyanne came to Mar-a-Lago three nights in a row around New Year’s Eve, and insisted on joining me. She was bleeding badly from a face-lift. I said no!

    Sarah Huckabee Sanders has also graced us with her presence. She gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem.

    I see Fox News in the back, which is a failing pile of garbage and the enemy of the American people. I never watch Sean Hannity, who I once called “the dumbest man on television!”

    A few members of the Trump cabinet showed up this year, such as Liddle Jeff Sessions, who lied to Congress under oath. He is an untruthful slimeball. And there’s Mike Pence, who is weak, both physically and mentally. Don’t threaten gay people, Mike!

    I’m so glad to see the Trump family represented. Let’s see, there’s Crooked Don Jr., who embarrassed himself and the country with his email lies. I refuse to call Ivanka Trump a bimbo, because that is not politically correct. And let’s not forget Eric, who should be forced to take an IQ testNot very bright.

    As for the First Lady, I did try and fuck Melania. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

    In closing, I will reserve my most civil words for the president himself, who has finally made an appearance at this dinner. Bad (or sick) guy!


    https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/more-appropriate-white-house-correspondents-association-dinner-jokes-for-2019

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