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    Good job, law enforcement, for resisting the urge to kick the shit out of this maggot:


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    Holy F**k.

    I just saw videos from the inside. Absolutely terrifying for those people inside that building.

    AR15 doin exactly what it was designed to do and doing it very well.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    Holy F**k.

    I just saw videos from the inside. Absolutely terrifying for those people inside that building.

    AR15 doin exactly what it was designed to do and doing it very well.
    Del, that video hit my hard. Been hunting and shooting guns for thirty years and what I saw in that classroom shook me bad.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    edited February 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    Holy F**k.

    I just saw videos from the inside. Absolutely terrifying for those people inside that building.

    AR15 doin exactly what it was designed to do and doing it very well.
    Del, that video hit my hard. Been hunting and shooting guns for thirty years and what I saw in that classroom shook me bad.  
    I haven't seen the video but it should be shared.

    I think people really need to see the hard truth about these things. I also think they should release pictures of the aftermaths of all these massacres....maybe then some people would come to their senses.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Holy F**k.

    I just saw videos from the inside. Absolutely terrifying for those people inside that building.

    AR15 doin exactly what it was designed to do and doing it very well.
    Del, that video hit my hard. Been hunting and shooting guns for thirty years and what I saw in that classroom shook me bad.  
    I haven't seen the video but it should be shared.

    I think people really need to see the hard truth about these things. I also think they should release pictures of the aftermaths of all these massacres....maybe then some people would come to their senses.
    I honestly think that it was that specific video that finally changed my mind.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Can’t manage your financial affairs and work and rely on gubmint assistance to survive but Team Trump Treason thinks you should own a gun. Brilliant!

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/15/politics/trump-gun-legislation-mental-health/index.html
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,736
    edited February 2018
    It's easier to buy an AR-15 than it is to buy a handgun in Florida. I just don't get it...


     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    It's easier to buy an AR-15 than it is to buy a handgun in Florida. I just don't get it...


     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html
    IT is the same in nj.  I can go and buy 100 ar s today but only one hand gun a month. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,736
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's easier to buy an AR-15 than it is to buy a handgun in Florida. I just don't get it...


     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html
    IT is the same in nj.  I can go and buy 100 ar s today but only one hand gun a month. 

    Absolutely insane.  
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,819
    edited February 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's easier to buy an AR-15 than it is to buy a handgun in Florida. I just don't get it...


     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html
    IT is the same in nj.  I can go and buy 100 ar s today but only one hand gun a month. 
    that's GOT to be the gun lobby. Fuck them. 
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's easier to buy an AR-15 than it is to buy a handgun in Florida. I just don't get it...


     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html
    IT is the same in nj.  I can go and buy 100 ar s today but only one hand gun a month. 
    that's GOT to be the result of some manufacturer of AR-15's wanting to get looser reg's on their product and paying off the right (wrong) people. Fuck them. 
    Handguns are still used in the bigger portion of homicides and their concealability is undeniable.
    AR's are rifles and they benefit from the lack of suitability for murder that characterize a huge portion of the rifle market.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's easier to buy an AR-15 than it is to buy a handgun in Florida. I just don't get it...


     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html
    IT is the same in nj.  I can go and buy 100 ar s today but only one hand gun a month. 
    that's GOT to be the gun lobby. Fuck them. 
    Actually no. I live in a deep blue state. That is all democrat, they are clueless as well. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    That fucking president of "ours." God forbid you bring up tightening fucking gun laws. Just want to talk about mental health. 

    Fuck all of you for being against assault rifle bans. Why the fuck do any of you need guns with that kind of firing capacity? Protection? Yea, sure. The government? Fuck off. It's time that these crimes go back to becoming a shock. Stop allowing people to have these weapons. They ARE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!! Nobody outside of the military needs these guns.
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    edited February 2018

    Is it the drinking water? The lack of parents in the rearing of some children? Easy access to weapons? What is with the shooting up of schools down there? I can't understand the guy who lost his job going nuts. Better yet children who take a gun to school to settle some score that they obviously think has to be taken care of violently. According to the news...7th biggest school shoot up. Do they really need to add that to the news cast?

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    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Holy F**k.

    I just saw videos from the inside. Absolutely terrifying for those people inside that building.

    AR15 doin exactly what it was designed to do and doing it very well.
    Del, that video hit my hard. Been hunting and shooting guns for thirty years and what I saw in that classroom shook me bad.  
    I haven't seen the video but it should be shared.

    I think people really need to see the hard truth about these things. I also think they should release pictures of the aftermaths of all these massacres....maybe then some people would come to their senses.
    I agree! After Congress did nothing after Sandy hook, I wanted pictures of those children released to change the mind of these hardliners
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,819
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's easier to buy an AR-15 than it is to buy a handgun in Florida. I just don't get it...


     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html
    IT is the same in nj.  I can go and buy 100 ar s today but only one hand gun a month. 
    that's GOT to be the result of some manufacturer of AR-15's wanting to get looser reg's on their product and paying off the right (wrong) people. Fuck them. 
    Handguns are still used in the bigger portion of homicides and their concealability is undeniable.
    AR's are rifles and they benefit from the lack of suitability for murder that characterize a huge portion of the rifle market.
    gotcha. 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    rgambs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    It's easier to buy an AR-15 than it is to buy a handgun in Florida. I just don't get it...


     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/15/us/ar15-mass-shootings-guns.html
    IT is the same in nj.  I can go and buy 100 ar s today but only one hand gun a month. 
    that's GOT to be the result of some manufacturer of AR-15's wanting to get looser reg's on their product and paying off the right (wrong) people. Fuck them. 
    Handguns are still used in the bigger portion of homicides and their concealability is undeniable.
    AR's are rifles and they benefit from the lack of suitability for murder that characterize a huge portion of the rifle market.
    Correct. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,954
    dignin said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Holy F**k.

    I just saw videos from the inside. Absolutely terrifying for those people inside that building.

    AR15 doin exactly what it was designed to do and doing it very well.
    Del, that video hit my hard. Been hunting and shooting guns for thirty years and what I saw in that classroom shook me bad.  
    I haven't seen the video but it should be shared.

    I think people really need to see the hard truth about these things. I also think they should release pictures of the aftermaths of all these massacres....maybe then some people would come to their senses.
    Agreed....put those dead bodies on the screen and wake people the fuck up
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,087
    Did anyone see the cell phone video taken buy a kid in a room in the school as they all were under their desks. Hear gun shots and a haunting scream.

    if you can watch that and still think nothing needs to change. If you can watch that and think that changing gun access, bullet access isn’t part of the solution, fuck you.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,518
    edited February 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    maybe it's my own bias, but Trump's statement rings so hollow, and Obama's speaks from the heart. 
    Well Trump didn't write a word of it. You can tell, 100%. Anyone who thinks he had anything to do with those words is an idiot. He doesn't talk like that. Obama I'm sure wrote his himself or at least played a big hand in writing it. It's easy to tell the difference.
    of course he didn't. Not sure why the need for "anyone who thinks so is an idiot" though. 
    Because it's what I wanted to say. It's true, and I think it needs saying because there are millions of people who will say it was a sincere statement from him. They are idiots, and I think it's important to keep perspective of who everyone is dealing with when it comes to support of Trump.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,158
    THERE ARE NO TEARS AND PRAYS ANYMORE..ITS LIKE GO TO A SUPER MARKET.,,IS LIKE U GO TO THE MOVIES..IS LIKE BUY A CAR..IS LIKE U GO FO A WALK..SAME THING IS A MASSIVE SHOOTING IN THE USA..ITS A ROUTINE..
    KEEP PUT YOUR FINGER INFRONT OF YOUR FACE AND U THINK U CAN HIDE..BUT YOU CANT..
    ANYONE WHIT COMMON SENSE CAN EASILY UNDERSTAND AND ADMIT THERE IS A FUCKIN PROBLEM AND PEOPLE LOOSING THEIR LIFES ..
    BAN THOSE FUCKIN GUNS FOR FUCK SHAKE..WAKE THE FUCK UP!!
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Paul “Beholden” Ryan

    Ryan rejects call for special committee on gun violence, says House has passed bills to address the problem - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AjYfWSCExTG67CKLEpWJ1Xw
    Keep cashing those blood soaked checks, fucking coward
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    my2hands said:
    Paul “Beholden” Ryan

    Ryan rejects call for special committee on gun violence, says House has passed bills to address the problem - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AjYfWSCExTG67CKLEpWJ1Xw
    Keep cashing those blood soaked checks, fucking coward
    The only way to get anything accomplished is on a state level. Nothing is gonna get done federally. 
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    mcgruff10 said:
    my2hands said:
    Paul “Beholden” Ryan

    Ryan rejects call for special committee on gun violence, says House has passed bills to address the problem - USA TODAY https://apple.news/AjYfWSCExTG67CKLEpWJ1Xw
    Keep cashing those blood soaked checks, fucking coward
    The only way to get anything accomplished is on a state level. Nothing is gonna get done federally. 
    State reps are even more afraid to oppose the NRA. They don't typically have the fund raising prowess that house members do. The NRA can easily outspend them or support their primary or general opponent so that they get crushed. Its hopeless. Nothing can be done.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    KC138045 said:
    This was shaping up to be another mass killing at a school. I'm sure the grandmother went through some agony before calling authorities, but she saved lives, including the life of her grandson.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    jeffbr said:
    KC138045 said:
    This was shaping up to be another mass killing at a school. I'm sure the grandmother went through some agony before calling authorities, but she saved lives, including the life of her grandson.
    That’s the kind of information they can act on - specific target, specific plans.  
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