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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    BS44325 said:
    I guess Lorde isn’t the only one. Are you going to point out which ones are female and one hit wonders, Professor? Maybe quote some Fat White Family lyrics?

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/05/lordes-artistic-right-to-cancel-gig-in-tel-aviv

    It is her right...never argued it wasn’t...I only argued that she was bullied into the decision which i stand by. Interesting thing about that list though...no members of PJ. Hmmmm....

    More important then that list of 56 is what the leaders of the Arab world are saying

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/world/middleeast/egypt-jerusalem-talk-shows.html

    After all that is the only thing that matters. The Roger Waters All Star band will have minimal to no effect.
    You never argued her right, Professor! You belittled her! You questioned her talent! You tried to beat her down and stifle her free speech for an awakening against an apartheid state. Like Team Trump Treason and Charlottesville, you don’t get it, you’re too aligned.
     
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 13,738
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-arabs/arab-league-to-lobby-u-n-to-recognize-palestinian-state-idUSKBN1EV0PG?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5a51481104d30138618ac138&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

    Arab League to lobby U.N. to recognize Palestinian state

    Reuters Staff

    AMMAN (Reuters) - Arab states will soon embark on a diplomatic drive to persuade the United Nations to recognize a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital on territory captured by Israel in the 1967 war, Jordan’s Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi said.

    Six Arab foreign ministers met in Amman on Saturday to follow up on earlier decisions taken by the Arab League to counter U.S. President Donald Trump’s move in December to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a decision that overturned decades of U.S. policy on the Middle East.

    A committee made up of Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the Palestinians and headed by Jordan was set up after an emergency meeting of the Arab League in Cairo shortly after Trump’s decision that called on Washington to abandon its decision.

    The Arab League said at the time the move would spur violence throughout the region and described Trump’s announcement as a “dangerous violation of international law” which had no legal impact.

    Safadi said the ministers would recommend a series of moves to a full ministerial meeting of the Arab League due later this month.

    “We will confront the decision by seeking a (U.N.) resolution, an international one, to recognize a Palestinian state on 1967 borders with Jerusalem as its capital,” said Safadi.

    He did not elaborate on the timing of the diplomatic moves nor say whether he was referring to a U.N. Security Council or General Assembly resolution.

    Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Aboul Gheit said the ministerial meeting would also discuss Washington’s role in future Arab-Israeli peacemaking that members states said was now jeopardized by what they see as U.S. bias towards Israel.

    “We want to lessen any losses on the Palestinian side and lessen the Israeli gains,” Aboul Gheit added.

    Arab states would also discuss whether to convene an extraordinary summit of their leaders or wait until a scheduled summit in the Saudi capital Riyadh at the end of March, he added.

    Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem has infuriated the Arab world and upset Western allies, who say it is a blow to peace efforts and risks sparking more violence in the region.

    Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state. Israel regards Jerusalem as its eternal and indivisible capital.

    Most countries consider East Jerusalem, which Israel annexed after capturing it from Jordan in a 1967 war, to be occupied territory, and say the status of the city should be decided at future Israeli-Palestinian talks.

    On Dec. 18, the United States blocked a United Nations Security Council call for Trump’s declaration on Jerusalem to be withdrawn.

    Three days later, more than 120 countries defied Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

    In 2012, the U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of the sovereign state of Palestine in a resolution that said the status of Jerusalem should be resolved through negotiations.

    Reporting by Suleiman Al-Khalidi; Editing by Adrian Croft


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    mickeyrat said:
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-arabs/arab-league-to-lobby-u-n-to-recognize-palestinian-state-idUSKBN1EV0PG?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5a51481104d30138618ac138&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

    Arab League to lobby U.N. to recognize Palestinian state

    Reuters Staff

    AMMAN (Reuters) - Arab states will soon embark on a diplomatic drive to persuade the United Nations to recognize a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital on territory captured by Israel in the 1967 war, Jordan’s Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi said.

    Six Arab foreign ministers met in Amman on Saturday to follow up on earlier decisions taken by the Arab League to counter U.S. President Donald Trump’s move in December to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a decision that overturned decades of U.S. policy on the Middle East.

    A committee made up of Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the Palestinians and headed by Jordan was set up after an emergency meeting of the Arab League in Cairo shortly after Trump’s decision that called on Washington to abandon its decision.

    The Arab League said at the time the move would spur violence throughout the region and described Trump’s announcement as a “dangerous violation of international law” which had no legal impact.

    Safadi said the ministers would recommend a series of moves to a full ministerial meeting of the Arab League due later this month.

    “We will confront the decision by seeking a (U.N.) resolution, an international one, to recognize a Palestinian state on 1967 borders with Jerusalem as its capital,” said Safadi.

    He did not elaborate on the timing of the diplomatic moves nor say whether he was referring to a U.N. Security Council or General Assembly resolution.

    Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Aboul Gheit said the ministerial meeting would also discuss Washington’s role in future Arab-Israeli peacemaking that members states said was now jeopardized by what they see as U.S. bias towards Israel.

    “We want to lessen any losses on the Palestinian side and lessen the Israeli gains,” Aboul Gheit added.

    Arab states would also discuss whether to convene an extraordinary summit of their leaders or wait until a scheduled summit in the Saudi capital Riyadh at the end of March, he added.

    Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem has infuriated the Arab world and upset Western allies, who say it is a blow to peace efforts and risks sparking more violence in the region.

    Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state. Israel regards Jerusalem as its eternal and indivisible capital.

    Most countries consider East Jerusalem, which Israel annexed after capturing it from Jordan in a 1967 war, to be occupied territory, and say the status of the city should be decided at future Israeli-Palestinian talks.

    On Dec. 18, the United States blocked a United Nations Security Council call for Trump’s declaration on Jerusalem to be withdrawn.

    Three days later, more than 120 countries defied Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

    In 2012, the U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of the sovereign state of Palestine in a resolution that said the status of Jerusalem should be resolved through negotiations.

    Reporting by Suleiman Al-Khalidi; Editing by Adrian Croft


    Hey but yo! BS says it ain’t so!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    mickeyrat said:
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-arabs/arab-league-to-lobby-u-n-to-recognize-palestinian-state-idUSKBN1EV0PG?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5a51481104d30138618ac138&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

    Arab League to lobby U.N. to recognize Palestinian state

    Reuters Staff

    AMMAN (Reuters) - Arab states will soon embark on a diplomatic drive to persuade the United Nations to recognize a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital on territory captured by Israel in the 1967 war, Jordan’s Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi said.

    Six Arab foreign ministers met in Amman on Saturday to follow up on earlier decisions taken by the Arab League to counter U.S. President Donald Trump’s move in December to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a decision that overturned decades of U.S. policy on the Middle East.

    A committee made up of Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the Palestinians and headed by Jordan was set up after an emergency meeting of the Arab League in Cairo shortly after Trump’s decision that called on Washington to abandon its decision.

    The Arab League said at the time the move would spur violence throughout the region and described Trump’s announcement as a “dangerous violation of international law” which had no legal impact.

    Safadi said the ministers would recommend a series of moves to a full ministerial meeting of the Arab League due later this month.

    “We will confront the decision by seeking a (U.N.) resolution, an international one, to recognize a Palestinian state on 1967 borders with Jerusalem as its capital,” said Safadi.

    He did not elaborate on the timing of the diplomatic moves nor say whether he was referring to a U.N. Security Council or General Assembly resolution.

    Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Aboul Gheit said the ministerial meeting would also discuss Washington’s role in future Arab-Israeli peacemaking that members states said was now jeopardized by what they see as U.S. bias towards Israel.

    “We want to lessen any losses on the Palestinian side and lessen the Israeli gains,” Aboul Gheit added.

    Arab states would also discuss whether to convene an extraordinary summit of their leaders or wait until a scheduled summit in the Saudi capital Riyadh at the end of March, he added.

    Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem has infuriated the Arab world and upset Western allies, who say it is a blow to peace efforts and risks sparking more violence in the region.

    Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state. Israel regards Jerusalem as its eternal and indivisible capital.

    Most countries consider East Jerusalem, which Israel annexed after capturing it from Jordan in a 1967 war, to be occupied territory, and say the status of the city should be decided at future Israeli-Palestinian talks.

    On Dec. 18, the United States blocked a United Nations Security Council call for Trump’s declaration on Jerusalem to be withdrawn.

    Three days later, more than 120 countries defied Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

    In 2012, the U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of the sovereign state of Palestine in a resolution that said the status of Jerusalem should be resolved through negotiations.

    Reporting by Suleiman Al-Khalidi; Editing by Adrian Croft


    Hey but yo! BS says it ain’t so!
    I remember when a poster on here thought the tide had shifted. The Palestinians were forgotten. That Lorde’s demise marked the beginning of the realignment of the Arab world for the benefit of the apartheid state of Israel and its Sunni brethren.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    BS44325 said:


    Your first link professor is an opinion piece, spouting how the big bad Iranians will drive the Saudis into Israel's arms as the region's superpower. Do you really believe the Saudis will hide behind the Israelis? Are you serious? The keepers of Islam's most holy sites are going to rely on, partner with, open full diplomatic relations, etc. (or what?) with Israel? Wishful thinking without Israel doing something in return, something they'll never do: give up their nukes, make peace with Palestine in a two state solution, or allow full civil rights for Palestinians within Israel. The threat of Iran will not be enough to sway the masses. 

    Your second link states that Honduras, Sudan, Romania and the Philippines (and 6 others that Zipi refused to name, wonder why?) are considering moving their embassies to Jerusalem. Congratulations, must be proud to have dictators and despots embrace your apartheid state. Hey, but legitimacy is legitimacy, right professor? What was the Arab League's response to Team Trump Treason's announcement and why do you dismiss it?

    Your last link is regarding lame duck Chris Christie's administration severing ties with a Danish bank for its severing business or black listing two Israel defense contractors. So explain to me how the actions of the Israeli-American Coalition for Action is different from the BDS movement in squashing free speech and association? The IACA is a Fascist organization, I take it. Also, is blacklisting Israeli defense contractors, contractors who most likely make weapons systems that kill Palestinians the same as pressuring Lorde to cancel her concert in Israel? Is that your moral equivalency? Gee, the Jewish lobby is more powerful and better funded than BDS, who knew? Israel's tact seems to be to silence and punish anyone or any entity that is critical of Israeli policy. Is that democracy? Not surprising how the Israeli's throw elections in East Jerusalem. Israel must really fear BDS to be so against it.

    Dankse, the largest bank in Denmark with a customer base of over 3.5 million people, blacklisted two Israeli defense companies, Aryt Industries and Elbit Systems, from its customer investments.

    Thomas Hyldahl Kjærgaard, the bank’s head of responsible investments, told the Post at the time that “Danske Bank does not boycott Israel or Israeli companies as such, and we do not take part in the so-called BDS campaign targeting Israel.”

    Aryt Industries Ltd is an Israel-based company primarily engaged in the manufacture of detonators. The Company produces electronic detonators for military market, including proximity and time fuses for ammunition artillery, mortars, tanks and artillery rockets. The Company’s portfolio consists of proximity fuse for mortars, electronic time fuse for mortars, electronic point detonating fuse for mortars, electronic time fuse for artillery, proximity fuse for artillery, electronic time and distance fuse for tank anti-personnel applications, electronic time fuse for artillery rockets, electronic point detonating fuse for artillery rockets and electronic time fuse for artillery. Additionally, the Company is active in the development of customized electronic detonators for military market.

    Elbit Systems Ltd. is an Israel-based international defense electronics company engaged in a wide range of programs throughout the world. The company, which includes Elbit Systems and its subsidiaries, operates in the areas of aerospace, land and naval systems, command, control, communications, computers, intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance ("C4ISR"), unmanned aircraft systems ("UAS"), advanced electro-optics, electro-optic space systems, Electronic warfare suites, signal intelligence ("SIGINT") systems, data links and communications systems and radios.

    The Company also focuses on the upgrading of existing military platforms, developing new technologies for defense, homeland security and commercial aviation applications and providing a range of support services, including training and simulation systems.

    In 2013, Elbit Systems had approximately 12,000 employees, the majority of whom are engaged in engineering, research and development, and other technical areas.

    Elbit Systems' shares are traded on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange and OTC in the United States (NASDAQ:ESLT).

    A bank with a social conscious, ehh gads!

    Shouldn't a Danish bank be allowed who or which companies it wants to invest their shareholders deposits in? Wouldn't a democracy and free market stipulate that the depositors can walk with their deposits? Not when it involves an apartheid state such as Israel, I guess? But BDS is bad, bad, bad, right professor?

    I couldn't access the Jerusalem Post link as it wouldn't load despite multiple attempts. But I'm guessing its more of the same, a far reach that supposedly backs your neocon claims as it relates to Jerusalem and Israel's legitimacy. More spin, spin, spin of BS.

    Happy now Benjs?


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,177
    BS44325 said:
    I guess Lorde isn’t the only one. Are you going to point out which ones are female and one hit wonders, Professor? Maybe quote some Fat White Family lyrics?

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/05/lordes-artistic-right-to-cancel-gig-in-tel-aviv

    It is her right...never argued it wasn’t...I only argued that she was bullied into the decision which i stand by. Interesting thing about that list though...no members of PJ. Hmmmm....

    More important then that list of 56 is what the leaders of the Arab world are saying

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/world/middleeast/egypt-jerusalem-talk-shows.html

    After all that is the only thing that matters. The Roger Waters All Star band will have minimal to no effect.
    Dude get it thru your head Pearl Jam will never play in an apartheid state ever how long have you been a fan 2yr
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,364
    BS44325 said:
    I guess Lorde isn’t the only one. Are you going to point out which ones are female and one hit wonders, Professor? Maybe quote some Fat White Family lyrics?

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/05/lordes-artistic-right-to-cancel-gig-in-tel-aviv

    It is her right...never argued it wasn’t...I only argued that she was bullied into the decision which i stand by. Interesting thing about that list though...no members of PJ. Hmmmm....

    More important then that list of 56 is what the leaders of the Arab world are saying

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/06/world/middleeast/egypt-jerusalem-talk-shows.html

    After all that is the only thing that matters. The Roger Waters All Star band will have minimal to no effect.
    Dude get it thru your head Pearl Jam will never play in an apartheid state ever how long have you been a fan 2yr
    Uhh...I know they won’t play there. They also won’t sign petitions to support the BDS movement. Clearly they have decided not to choose sides. After watching the abuse Radiohead took who could blame them.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,364
    mickeyrat said:
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-arabs/arab-league-to-lobby-u-n-to-recognize-palestinian-state-idUSKBN1EV0PG?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5a51481104d30138618ac138&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

    Arab League to lobby U.N. to recognize Palestinian state

    Reuters Staff

    AMMAN (Reuters) - Arab states will soon embark on a diplomatic drive to persuade the United Nations to recognize a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital on territory captured by Israel in the 1967 war, Jordan’s Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi said.

    Six Arab foreign ministers met in Amman on Saturday to follow up on earlier decisions taken by the Arab League to counter U.S. President Donald Trump’s move in December to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, a decision that overturned decades of U.S. policy on the Middle East.

    A committee made up of Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the Palestinians and headed by Jordan was set up after an emergency meeting of the Arab League in Cairo shortly after Trump’s decision that called on Washington to abandon its decision.

    The Arab League said at the time the move would spur violence throughout the region and described Trump’s announcement as a “dangerous violation of international law” which had no legal impact.

    Safadi said the ministers would recommend a series of moves to a full ministerial meeting of the Arab League due later this month.

    “We will confront the decision by seeking a (U.N.) resolution, an international one, to recognize a Palestinian state on 1967 borders with Jerusalem as its capital,” said Safadi.

    He did not elaborate on the timing of the diplomatic moves nor say whether he was referring to a U.N. Security Council or General Assembly resolution.

    Arab League Secretary-General Ahmed Aboul Gheit said the ministerial meeting would also discuss Washington’s role in future Arab-Israeli peacemaking that members states said was now jeopardized by what they see as U.S. bias towards Israel.

    “We want to lessen any losses on the Palestinian side and lessen the Israeli gains,” Aboul Gheit added.

    Arab states would also discuss whether to convene an extraordinary summit of their leaders or wait until a scheduled summit in the Saudi capital Riyadh at the end of March, he added.

    Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem has infuriated the Arab world and upset Western allies, who say it is a blow to peace efforts and risks sparking more violence in the region.

    Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state. Israel regards Jerusalem as its eternal and indivisible capital.

    Most countries consider East Jerusalem, which Israel annexed after capturing it from Jordan in a 1967 war, to be occupied territory, and say the status of the city should be decided at future Israeli-Palestinian talks.

    On Dec. 18, the United States blocked a United Nations Security Council call for Trump’s declaration on Jerusalem to be withdrawn.

    Three days later, more than 120 countries defied Trump and voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution calling for the United States to drop its recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

    In 2012, the U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly approved the de facto recognition of the sovereign state of Palestine in a resolution that said the status of Jerusalem should be resolved through negotiations.

    Reporting by Suleiman Al-Khalidi; Editing by Adrian Croft


    Hey but yo! BS says it ain’t so!
    As per the link I posted above these states are behaving one way in public and another way in private. As you know petitions to the UN go nowhere so it is what happens behind the scene that is more important. 

    https://www.albawaba.com/news/original-egypt-has-abandoned-palestine-1070310
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,364
    Stern went off today...

    https://youtu.be/zMheGevdd7I
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,177
    BS44325 said:
    Stern went off today...

    https://youtu.be/zMheGevdd7I
    He should throw his hat in for prez in 2020 no lol 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    Birds of a feather flock together. Graft? Corruption? What difference does it make if it advances your goals. I’m sure it’s just the tip of the iceberg. ISIS oil anyone?

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/09/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-son-strip-club-recording-intl/index.html
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
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    “The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor 12/09/2017

    JERUSALEM — Palestinian leaders on Monday voted to suspend recognition of Israel until it reciprocates by recognizing a Palestinian state and to cease security cooperation, as the political fallout from the Trump administration’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital escalated.

    Members of the Palestine Liberation Organization’s central council made the recommendation during a meeting in the West Bank city of Ramallah, where they had gathered to formulate their response to recent moves by Washington that have incensed the Palestinian leadership.

    In addition to the Jerusalem decision, the Trump administration has also threatened to close down offices of the PLO in Washington and, according to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, attempted to present a peace plan that gave them a suburb of Jerusalem as their capital, instead of the city’s eastern side. When Abbas said the United States could no longer be considered a fair broker for negotiations, the U.S. administration threatened aid cuts.

    He’s taken us hundreds of miles back,” said Qais Abd ­al-Karim, a Palestinian official who was present at the meeting. “The Trump decision on Jerusalem completely destroyed the immediate prospects of any peace process.”

    In its declaration, the council said the Palestinians should no longer be bound by the Oslo accords, a set of agreements between Israel and the PLO signed in 1993. Those agreements set in place the Palestinian Authority’s security cooperation with Israel, with the two sides sharing intelligence to thwart attacks. That cooperation should be stopped “in all forms,” the council’s statement said. The Palestinian Authority has threatened to make the move in the past, but has never carried through.

    The recommendations were made to the PLO’s executive committee which still needs to implement them. 

    The council also called for a peace process based on the Arab Peace Initiative — which promises normalization of ties with Israel in return for a withdrawal to its 1967 borders — and said until the United States changes its stance on Jerusalem and settlements, any agreement should be rejected.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/palestinian-officials-vote-to-suspend-recognition-of-israel-security-cooperation/2018/01/15/0d3ad3ca-fa45-11e7-9b5d-bbf0da31214d_story.html?utm_term=.4005e359d12a

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    “The idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” The Professor, 12/09/2017

    https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/956657125379391489

    And if if it didn’t, I guess the blatant racism is a natural occurrence for an apartheid state?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    If only the citizens of Israel would have the same level of introspection as that of what they demand of the rest of the world. If only.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/27/israel-criticises-poland-over-draft-holocaust-legislation
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    No wonder they have a bromance. Will Team Trump Treason be far behind?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/netanyahu-lashes-police-graft-probe-nears-end-095416837.html
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    mickeyrat said:
    Sounds like they’re recreating the Warsaw ghetto in Egypt. How does Bibi look himself in the mirror every morning?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 22,974
    I know many here have strong feeling about specific middle east countries.  I'm more of the mind that the whole region including Iran, Irag, Syria, Palestine, Israel (among others) has become one big clusterfuck.  Alliances shift, war supplies shift, everybody has done dirt, each country has its heroes and villains, but stable, sane efforts at reaching peace are as far away as ever.  What a mess. 

    Here's the latest incident that only serves to solidify my beliefs stated above:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/israeli-fighter-jet-shot-down-by-syrian-fire-says-military

     

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 18,177
    brianlux said:
    I know many here have strong feeling about specific middle east countries.  I'm more of the mind that the whole region including Iran, Irag, Syria, Palestine, Israel (among others) has become one big clusterfuck.  Alliances shift, war supplies shift, everybody has done dirt, each country has its heroes and villains, but stable, sane efforts at reaching peace are as far away as ever.  What a mess. 

    Here's the latest incident that only serves to solidify my beliefs stated above:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/israeli-fighter-jet-shot-down-by-syrian-fire-says-military

     

    Yeah tensions are high after this incident..
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    brianlux said:
    I know many here have strong feeling about specific middle east countries.  I'm more of the mind that the whole region including Iran, Irag, Syria, Palestine, Israel (among others) has become one big clusterfuck.  Alliances shift, war supplies shift, everybody has done dirt, each country has its heroes and villains, but stable, sane efforts at reaching peace are as far away as ever.  What a mess. 

    Here's the latest incident that only serves to solidify my beliefs stated above:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/israeli-fighter-jet-shot-down-by-syrian-fire-says-military

     

    Yeah tensions are high after this incident..
    “So the idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.”

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 22,974
    What a mess!  Iran sends troops to Syria because they hate Israel and yet Iran does not even border Syria or Israel.  Israel refuses to allow Palestine to be a sovereign state.  Etc.! Clusterfuck!
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 13,968
    Netanyahu facing corruption indictment's

    Lol
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 12,871
    my2hands said:
    Netanyahu facing corruption indictment's

    Lol
    It’s really character assasination by the ruling elite class, tired of the ways. Probably had his wires tapped too.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,099
    my2hands said:
    Netanyahu facing corruption indictment's

    Lol
    i'll believe it when i see. it. get 2 or 3 zionists on a jury and he walks.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,364
    my2hands said:
    Netanyahu facing corruption indictment's

    Lol
    i'll believe it when i see. it. get 2 or 3 zionists on a jury and he walks.
    Uhhhh...pretty much all Israeli's are zionists. The cops who want to charge him are zionists. You do understand this don't you?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 5,364

    brianlux said:
    I know many here have strong feeling about specific middle east countries.  I'm more of the mind that the whole region including Iran, Irag, Syria, Palestine, Israel (among others) has become one big clusterfuck.  Alliances shift, war supplies shift, everybody has done dirt, each country has its heroes and villains, but stable, sane efforts at reaching peace are as far away as ever.  What a mess. 

    Here's the latest incident that only serves to solidify my beliefs stated above:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/10/israeli-fighter-jet-shot-down-by-syrian-fire-says-military

     

    Yeah tensions are high after this incident..
    “So the idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.”

    12/09/2017 The Professor of BS

    Jared Dear Boy doing a terrific job.
    Oh...are you suggesting that this incident was triggered by the US embassy decision? Interesting theory.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,099
    BS44325 said:
    my2hands said:
    Netanyahu facing corruption indictment's

    Lol
    i'll believe it when i see. it. get 2 or 3 zionists on a jury and he walks.
    Uhhhh...pretty much all Israeli's are zionists. The cops who want to charge him are zionists. You do understand this don't you?
    do i understand this?

    that's rich coming from the guy who bends over backwards to twist this conflict into being all the fault of the palestinians. there is no bigger israel apologist on this forum than you.
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, AustraliaPosts: 11,855
    my2hands said:
    Netanyahu facing corruption indictment's

    Lol
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 8,510
    I usually don't touch the Israel question but what are the thoughts on this?

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/justice-minister-israel-s-jewish-majority-trumps-than-human-rights-1.5811106
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 16,099
    I disagree with her position. You can't try to maintain a majority by oppressing other people. She wants jewish people to hold on to power in israel. if people of other religions move there, you can't oppress them to keep your majority. the system is people in the majority have the power. if the minority had the power, it would be apartheid. israel is desperately trying to get away from being labeled an apartheid state, so they are going to do whatever they feel is necessary to avoid it.
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